CAPT KAYOS Posted February 2, 2005 Posted February 2, 2005 All I can say is' let this be a lesson learnt' and close the book on the subject. At the end of the day he was overpriced when we bought him (anotther Souness masterstroke) and Rangers probably in all fairness paid the MV for him ( still too much in my opinion). Lets just hope this leads to provoking a a bit of diploma when any future 'contracts' are drawn up by the Board/Hughes.
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Izzitnot Posted February 2, 2005 Posted February 2, 2005 you lot go on about barry ferguson, well look at this way, if you were rangers I doubt you wuld give a crap how he got out of blackburn very similiar to savage, I dont see you lot being slightly sympathetic to how he treated bimringham in refusing to play so really your hypocrits
bellamy11 Posted February 2, 2005 Posted February 2, 2005 you lot go on about barry ferguson, well look at this way, if you were rangers I doubt you wuld give a crap how he got out of blackburn very similiar to savage, I dont see you lot being slightly sympathetic to how he treated bimringham in refusing to play so really your hypocrits He didn't refuse to play. He was dropped. By all accounts he played quite well in the reserve game he played during the saga. 80 yard runs to tackle back etc.
streakyb Posted February 2, 2005 Posted February 2, 2005 (edited) you lot go on about barry ferguson, well look at this way, if you were rangers I doubt you wuld give a crap how he got out of blackburn very similiar to savage, I dont see you lot being slightly sympathetic to how he treated bimringham in refusing to play so really your hypocrits Firsty it is spelt hypocrite so we would be hypocrites. And I am not a hypocrite. Savage asked to leave you and was still willing to play for you. Your chairmen etc bad mouthed him and the whole scenario was done without dignity. The most important thing here is Savage was still willing to play. Our board in both cases kept quiet and handled the transfers whilst trying to maintain dignity. I think they achieved that. At the end of the day though both clubs handled the transfers in similar, and the correct manor, trying to get the most for the player . The two big differences here are we (in the majority) purely blame Fegurson and his agent for his desire to move. It is not Rangers fault that he wanted to join them (in my eyes). Whereas It was everones fault bar you club that Savage wanted to leave. Finally, I feel most of us felt it was despicable how your club made such as big thing of it and tried to keep it in the press every single day. Edited February 2, 2005 by streakyb
Dado_Prso_9 Posted February 3, 2005 Posted February 3, 2005 (edited) tp your having a laugh surely Rangers are now a poor second to celtic, returning ferguson to the team doenst guarantee you anything but second place. Celtic have the monopoly on the league Wrong. 2005 - ? 2004 - Celtic 2003 - Rangers 2002 - Celtic 2001 - Celtic 2000 - Rangers 1999 - Rangers 1998 - Celtic 1997 - Rangers 1996 - Rangers 1995 - Rangers 1994 - Rangers 1993 - Rangers 1992 - Rangers 1991 - Rangers 1990 - Rangers 1989 - Rangers 1988 - Celtic 1987 - Rangers 1986 - Celtic 1985 - Aberdeen 20 years, thirteen titles compared to Celtic's six, and one for Aberdeen. Where is the Celtic monopoly? And can someone please explain to me why the Premiership is holding any interest this season? Chelsea sit 11 clear of United and 13 clear of Arsenal with 14 games still to play? No wonder viewing figures and attendances are down this season. Look at the history of the Premiership. 2004 - Arsenal 2003 - Man Utd 2002 - Arsenal 2001 - Man Utd 2000 - Man Utd 1999 - Man Utd 1998 - Arsenal 1997 - Man Utd 1996 - Man Utd 1995 - Blackburn Rovers 1994 - Man Utd 1993 - Man Utd Manchester United enjoy a monopoly here, although Arsenal are catching up. A survey of fans of the bottom 10 Premiership clubs showed that the vast majority are fed up with the stagnent nature of the Premiership. The only teams who can realistically win the Premiership are United, Arsenal, and now Chelsea. Go to ANY league in Europe and you'll find that every season, the league is dominated by the same two or three sides. If you take off the Premiership biased specs and actually read into things, you'll see that the only thing keeping you ahead is the money Sky brings in. The fact is, the SPL is more exciting, as a contest, than the Premiership this season. To prove the point, I've never known an Arsenal v Man Utd game with so little at stake so early in the season. Edited February 3, 2005 by Dado_Prso_9
rog of the rovers Posted February 3, 2005 Posted February 3, 2005 I see Ferguson is going to strech himself at Rangers. Rangers 7-1 Dundee Utd. And thats a cup SEMI FINAL!!!!!!!!!!! SPL is laughable Both clubs would do anything to play in the English league.
Al Posted February 3, 2005 Posted February 3, 2005 The answer to the ? for 2005 is Celtic - Guaranteed.
RangerRover Posted February 3, 2005 Posted February 3, 2005 I see Ferguson is going to strech himself at Rangers. Rangers 7-1 Dundee Utd. And thats a cup SEMI FINAL!!!!!!!!!!! SPL is laughable Both clubs would do anything to play in the English league. At 2-1, United hit the post - the ball rolled along the line, whackd the other post and out. Two minutes later, Andrews handle the ball and the ref refused UTD a penalty. We were on the ropes. Third goal went in and they collapsed. Should have seen Barry before the game - all smiles and relaxed. I'd never seen him smile before - I'm not joking.
teapreacher Posted February 3, 2005 Posted February 3, 2005 and immediately Rangers have him playing in his proper position behind the other midfielders and he looks like his old self. two years wasted trying to turn him into something he isn't .
philipl Posted February 3, 2005 Posted February 3, 2005 and immediately Rangers have him playing in his proper position behind the other midfielders and he looks like his old self. two years wasted trying to turn him into something he isn't . I am not going to excuse Souness' tactical ineptitude but 1) Ferguson was not at Rovers for two years. Obviously you see him as decent and honourable but he refused to play and ratted out after 16 months cheating us out of a couple of million in the process. 2) During those 16 months he spent 6 of them injured and receiving the highest quality medical treatment 3) Ferguson is a very inadequate tackler who also ducks out of the way when the ball is blasted at him. Those deficiencies don't matter in the SPL which is why he is happy back home playing "behind the other midfielders". He sadly was not up to the task of playing there in the Premiership. 4) You played a team 7 places below you tonight. Competitive wasn't it?
coffeeman Posted February 3, 2005 Posted February 3, 2005 He didn't refuse to play. He was dropped. According to Mark Hughes, he did refuse to play the last cup game.
streakyb Posted February 3, 2005 Posted February 3, 2005 two years wasted trying to turn him into something he isn't . What, a premeirship quality midfielder
roversmum Posted February 3, 2005 Posted February 3, 2005 Well, I'll tell you this. We may not have won last night which was a travesty but we certainly didn't miss Barry (who would probably have picked up a card and probably got involved in the handbags and sent off). Hail Mokoena - a class above Bazza and has already proved himself to be a committed Rover. Barry Ferguson? Just remind me who...........
Scotty Posted February 3, 2005 Posted February 3, 2005 Well, I'll tell you this. We may not have won last night which was a travesty but we certainly didn't miss Barry (who would probably have picked up a card and probably got involved in the handbags and sent off). Hail Mokoena - a class above Bazza and has already proved himself to be a committed Rover. Barry Ferguson? Just remind me who........... To be fair, if we still had Ferguson I'm sure he'd have replaced Thompson and not Mokoena in last night's line-up. And I'm sure he'd have done a better job than Thompson (I think I could have last night!). I'd like to see Tugay in that position next time we play that formation. The team played well enough though to show that we should survive this season without Ferguson and then hopefully replace him in the summer.
philipl Posted February 3, 2005 Posted February 3, 2005 Quite probably Mokoena will be the skipper of a country in the World Cup Finals. Unlike....
roversmum Posted February 3, 2005 Posted February 3, 2005 Fair comment Scotty. Thompson certainly wasn't at his footballing best (headless chicken best perhaps....). You couldn't really mention him in the same breath as Tugay after that. Such a shame Tugs is coming to the end of his time
pg Posted February 3, 2005 Posted February 3, 2005 Yeah, that may be good formation for Tugay as well. Sit him just behind Dickov and let him play superb through-balls for Dickov, MGP, Emerton to run onto.
bellamy11 Posted February 3, 2005 Posted February 3, 2005 He didn't refuse to play. He was dropped. According to Mark Hughes, he did refuse to play the last cup game. I was talking about Savage
Izzitnot Posted February 3, 2005 Posted February 3, 2005 he did refuse to play against charlton he told bruce he had a knee injury and wasnt in the right frame of mind to play anyway you might as well lock the thread !!! you have swapped one badge kissing judas for another
Parasyte Posted February 3, 2005 Posted February 3, 2005 you have swapped one badge kissing judas for another Rather that, than an a*se kissing judas as a manager.
Izzitnot Posted February 3, 2005 Posted February 3, 2005 you dont see birmingham wasting £7.5 million on a player who cant last 18 months cant remember what BF said, something along the lines of "this rangers shirt feels so good " atleast we made £2 million on our badge kissing judas, you were practically trying to sell yours for 1/2 price and then bring in big mouth little legs
RovertheHill Posted February 3, 2005 Posted February 3, 2005 Looking at Bruce's track record I'd keep my gob shut if I were you Stern John Clinton Morrison (£4.25m) Dugarry Emile Heskey (£6.25m) Dwight Yorke Kuqi David Dunn (£5.5m) Martin Taylor Add to that Pandiani who hates it already, a Judas manager who WILL do the dirty on you in the future, and an uncontrollable urge to do all business through the media leading to humiliation with the likes of Bellamy. No, you lot are going places...
stuwilky Posted February 3, 2005 Posted February 3, 2005 you dont see birmingham wasting £7.5 million on a player who cant last 18 months cant remember what BF said, something along the lines of "this rangers shirt feels so good " atleast we made £2 million on our badge kissing judas, you were practically trying to sell yours for 1/2 price and then bring in big mouth little legs 'wasted' 7.5mill? We paid 6.5 mill and got 5mill back. I make that a paper loss of 1.5m. Not your asserted 7.5m.
Radagast Posted February 3, 2005 Posted February 3, 2005 (edited) Don't forget the Argentinian fellow. I can't even remember his name. My personal favourite though was giving Crystal Palace £4.25m plus Andy Johnson for Morrison. The mind boggles. Edited February 3, 2005 by Radagast
RovertheHill Posted February 3, 2005 Posted February 3, 2005 (edited) Yes, I forget Andy Johnson, who is now rated at Beattie type fees. So in actual fact, you do go about wasting £7.5M+! Edited February 3, 2005 by RovertheHill
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