Ferguson Hands in Transfer Request

[thenodrog]

Oh Theno, I think you'll find the Scottish oil has been a rather important contribution to UK PLC's coffers over the last thirty years.

They haven't got any...... its British oil.

All them jocks dont earn a good living fighting in the Scottish army do they?

[Dado_Prso_9]

New offer to be made for Ferguson.

£2m up front, waive the £2.1m, and pay £400k at the end of the season.

Total value of the deal will be £4.5m guaranteed regardless, instead of the £4m "performance based" deal offered on Thursday.

[RoyRover]

Barry Ferguson definately start on Wednesday if he is fit and ready. If Rangers want him that badly they can increase their offer and wait for the summer, when we have time to find a replacement. I'd prefer us not to sell him at all.

[thenodrog]

New offer to be made for Ferguson.

£2m up front, waive the £2.1m, and pay £400k at the end of the season.

Total value of the deal will be £4.5m guaranteed regardless, instead of the £4m "performance based" deal offered on Thursday.

But didn't Rangers say that Thursdays offer was their last? I doubt that you lot can lie straight in bed!

£3.5m up front and scrub the debt please........ or are you all mutton?.

Edited January 30, 2005 by thenodrog

[Dado_Prso_9]

Oh Theno, I think you'll find the Scottish oil has been a rather important contribution to UK PLC's coffers over the last thirty years.

They haven't got any...... its British oil.

All them jocks dont earn a good living fighting in the Scottish army do they?

Not heard of the North Sea Oil rigs off the coast of Scotland which contributes the vast majority of "British oil" then?

Didn't think so. Drop the racial/stereotypical comments eh? They're so old it's pathetic. "Jock, tenement schemes, haggis, sectarianism" ... all things you read overhyped stories about which are nonsense.

When you finally grow up and leave that Goldfish bowl of an exhistance you might see that the people up here are decent.

Edited January 30, 2005 by Dado_Prso_9

[greggyk]

New offer to be made for Ferguson.

£2m up front, waive the £2.1m, and pay £400k at the end of the season.

Total value of the deal will be £4.5m guaranteed regardless, instead of the £4m "performance based" deal offered on Thursday.

just add another £1.5m to that and you've got a deal.

How many more times do Rovers have to tell Rangers, its £6m they want!!!

[den]

It will be a shame to have this topic disintegrate into another racial punch up.

The topic is Barry Ferguson.

stick to it please.

[Eddie]

I think with them it would be an hourly one.

We could probably now include me as a topic haha.

6 million and he's your man, why don't you just stump up the cash and be off with him? We all know you have it after the boumsong deal.

[Dado_Prso_9]

New offer to be made for Ferguson.

£2m up front, waive the £2.1m, and pay £400k at the end of the season.

Total value of the deal will be £4.5m guaranteed regardless, instead of the £4m "performance based" deal offered on Thursday.

just add another £1.5m to that and you've got a deal.

How many more times do Rovers have to tell Rangers, its £6m they want!!!

And John Williams knows he cannot realistically expect £6m in a depressed marketplace!

If someone can get Fernando Morientes for £6.3m or Michael Owen for £8m, go figure. 18 months ago those players would have cost at least £2m or £3m more on top of those prices.

Plus, Ferguson sustained a bad knee injury while playing for you lot, so who's to say one bad smack in the knee and he's out again?

Hughes is also chasing Bellamy from what I've been told, and has publicly admitted the piggy bank is empty. It makes no sense to hold onto a player who despises playing for you and then pay MORE money to keep him, and STILL pay him £35k a week. What's the point in paying him all that money till the summer when he WILL walk back to Glasgow for £4m anyway?

[Dado_Prso_9]

I think with them it would be an hourly one.

We could probably now include me as a topic haha.

6 million and he's your man, why don't you just stump up the cash and be off with him? We all know you have it after the boumsong deal.

Again, you're making assumptions based on facts you don't have.

Boumsong was "sold" for £8m.

Boumsong got £1m of this, and his agent Willie McKay got £1m also.

Auxerre and Le Havre also got £750k each as part of Boumsongs "development", leaving us with a total of £4.5m.

Thomas Buffel was signed for £2.3m and Sotirios Kyrgiakos for £1.7m.

Doesn't it help when you actually know what you're taking about?

[greggyk]

Well then, no Fergie for Rangers then.

Rovers are in a relegation scrap and keeping Ferguson would get us out of it.So Williams does not want to sell. And soft Barry is going to have to stay unless Rangers offer £6m.

[Dado_Prso_9]

Well then, no Fergie for Rangers then.

Rovers are in a relegation scrap and keeping Ferguson would get us out of it.So Williams does not want to sell. And soft Barry is going to have to stay unless Rangers offer £6m.

I doubt the gubbing Chelsea will hand out, with or without Fergie, will help ease those relegation fears.

[thenodrog]

It makes no sense to hold onto a player who despises playing for you

Despises eh? I know its all a bit too tough for him down here but he's never actually said that has he?

And rem two years ago he despised living in sectarian Glasgow!

[trueblue]

What's the point in paying him all that money till the summer when he WILL walk back to Glasgow for £4m anyway?

He can set off f**@^#& walking now then can't he, might have reached Carlisle by the summer (taking all the stops to moan about his poor tootsies into consideration)

[thenodrog]

Not heard of the North Sea Oil rigs off the coast of Scotland which contributes the vast majority of "British oil" then?

They are in the sea off the coast of Britain. I'm sure that after we found the oil for you you would have kept it for yourselves if you could have. Funny but for some reason I cannot rem any stirling efforts made by the Scottish navy to defend em.

[Dr Rich]

Boumsong was "sold" for £8m.

Boumsong got £1m of this, and his agent Willie McKay got £1m also.

Auxerre and Le Havre also got £750k each as part of Boumsongs "development", leaving us with a total of £4.5m.

Thomas Buffel was signed for £2.3m and Sotirios Kyrgiakos for £1.7m.

Doesn't it help when you actually know what you're taking about?

So basically what you're saying is that you had the money to buy Barry Ferguson, but you decided that there were other players you wanted to buy instead? I'm sure Barry will be most impressed with his beloved Rangers snapping up players left, right and centre with the money which would have seen him getting the move he desires.

[den]

New offer to be made for Ferguson.

£2m up front, waive the £2.1m, and pay £400k at the end of the season.

Total value of the deal will be £4.5m guaranteed regardless, instead of the £4m "performance based" deal offered on Thursday.

just add another £1.5m to that and you've got a deal.

How many more times do Rovers have to tell Rangers, its £6m they want!!!

And John Williams knows he cannot realistically expect £6m in a depressed marketplace!

If someone can get Fernando Morientes for £6.3m or Michael Owen for £8m, go figure. 18 months ago those players would have cost at least £2m or £3m more on top of those prices.

Plus, Ferguson sustained a bad knee injury while playing for you lot, so who's to say one bad smack in the knee and he's out again?

Hughes is also chasing Bellamy from what I've been told, and has publicly admitted the piggy bank is empty. It makes no sense to hold onto a player who despises playing for you and then pay MORE money to keep him, and STILL pay him £35k a week. What's the point in paying him all that money till the summer when he WILL walk back to Glasgow for £4m anyway?

Dado, you were doing well, early on.

"And John Williams knows he cannot realistically expect £6m in a depressed marketplace!"

Says who? You got £8m for Boumsong didn't you?

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"Plus, Ferguson sustained a bad knee injury while playing for you lot, so who's to say one bad smack in the knee and he's out again?"

He would have to take a medical, wouldn't he?

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Listen - Ferguson has been a disgrace in all of this. You blame Viola for the problems but do you really think Ferguson is blameless.

I've no doubt that Ferguson will end up going back to Rangers, but it will be when ROVERS decide.

If your beloved club had acted with dignity and come in with an attractive offer, he would be back at Rangers now. there's one real reason why he's still at Ewood, the totally inept way all three parties [rangers, Viola and Ferguson] have behaved.

Amateurs!

[AussieinUk]

Well said den!

[Ste B]

Can we keep this on topic.

Anything else will just be deleted.

[American]

If a deal does not happen, Hughes should first make a statement and publicly strip him of the captaincy. He should not be wearing the armband when whining to get out of here.

He should play him, as he probably is professional enough to still play his best. I don't see him as the Bellamy type who would dog it or feign injury to get out of playing if he isn't happy.

[Modi]

If a deal does not happen, Hughes should first make a statement and publicly strip him of the captaincy. He should not be wearing the armband when whining to get out of here.

Interesting you raise this point. In a recent programme, Flitty was asked his proudest moment as a footballer and his worst experience. The latter answer was "being stripped of the club captaincy for non-footballing reasons". Somehow I doubt if Bazza would be so upset if it happened to him.

[philipl]

I don't know if any of this stuff in the People should be believed.

I think Vyeo is correct on how Rovers would finance a striker purchase- there is no doubt that if we have offered £6m for Ballamy, cash from any sale of Ferguson is NOT part of the financing.

So Fergy would take a £500K a year pay cut to return to Rangers? I had wondered whether he was already on more with the Rovers than the £30K a week that Rangers said they were offering.

And Everton were willing to open the bidding for Ferguson at £5m?

That makes Rangers' arguments that Fergy's value is now only 30% of their own valuation of Boumsong finally disintegrate into a whiskey-hazed halucination. Any offer less than an unconditional £5m is below the current market value based this reported opening offer from Everton.

I see that Chelsea are signing a shirt sponsorship deal with Adidas which is worth twice the £52m that Murray injected into Rangers to delay the day the Gers go bust.

Rangers are wee willy wonkers these days.

Edited January 30, 2005 by philipl

[Dado_Prso_9]

I don't know if any of this stuff in the People should be believed.

I think Vyeo is correct on how Rovers would finance a striker purchase- there is no doubt that if we have offered £6m for Ballamy, cash from any sale of Ferguson is NOT part of the financing.

So Fergy would take a £500K a year pay cut to return to Rangers? I had wondered whether he was already on more with the Rovers than the £30K a week that Rangers said they were offering.

And Everton were willing to open the bidding for Ferguson at £5m?

That makes Rangers' arguments that Fergy's value is now only 30% of their own valuation of Boumsong finally disintegrate into a whiskey-hazed halucination. Any offer less than an unconditional £5m is below the current market value based this reported opening offer from Everton.

I see that Chelsea are signing a shirt sponsorship deal with Adidas which is worth twice the £52m that Murray injected into Rangers to delay the day the Gers go bust.

Rangers are wee willy wonkers these days.

That's it Phil, keep flapping those gums.

1) Rangers Football Club will never go bust. Since you know so much about us, you'll also know Murray personal fortune yes? I'm sick of explaining how the debt at Ibrox is only £22m and how it's been tied up in long term loans.

2) The reason Chelsea signed a deal worth so much with Adidas is because of the pull they now have thanks to recent success. Also, the Premiership is a big draw because of Sky Sports. Remove Sky's money from the Premiership and where would it be? If you honestly believe that players such as Zola, Bergkamp, Henry, Viera, C Ronaldo, etc would have been playing in England without Sky's backing of the Premiership then you are sorely mistaken. Sky could live without the Premiership. The Premiership could not live without Sky. Add to this that attendances in the bottom 10 clubs are in decline, and viewing figures for matches including those clubs are falling by the month, go figure. Chelsea are a massive club and a very big draw, it's obvious a company such as Adidas would pay such a sum of money to back them given English football's current climate.

3) Ferguson does not want to go to another English team. He only wants home. He's told Iain King this in person, he doesn't care what people think of his ambition, he only wants to come home. End of story.

You only read what you want to hear Phil.

Edited January 30, 2005 by Dado_Prso_9

[blue phil]

New offer to be made for Ferguson.

£2m up front, waive the £2.1m, and pay £400k at the end of the season.

Total value of the deal will be £4.5m guaranteed regardless, instead of the £4m "performance based" deal offered on Thursday.

That will roughly be what is in the papers tomorrow or Tuesday - an entirely predictable compromise .

[Parasyte]

Blackburn Rovers win Ferguson battle

http://www.fansfc.com/frontpage/frontpagen...p?newsid=135858]

"Once the window is closed - and I feel the opportunity has already gone - the way we have dealt with the situation enables Barry to still have a future here and we would welcome him back."