stuwilky Posted August 9, 2005 Posted August 9, 2005 Shirt deals are nothing to do with the size of home crowd, it's all about appearances on TV and in press pictures. We finished 15th, not 20th; yet we have the salary bill of a top 10 team and the shirt deal of the bottom team. If he was as good as everyone thinks, then those two statistics would be reversed. 337880[/snapback] And I would hazard just a little guess (and I might be wrong) that crowd size at the crowd is directly proportional to success on the pitch, which is pretty much proportional to press exposure nationally (internationally doesnt apply - prem coverage in many overseas countries involves Man Utd/Chelsea and Liverpool regardless of league placing. I am sure that you could do a far better job than John Williams, so why dont you apply. This is real life not fairytale land. Good job in difficult circumstances.
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pick32 Posted August 11, 2005 Posted August 11, 2005 (edited) im not supprised we have a low sponsership deal with attendance declining and the team not looking to be going placs from last seasons overall performance witch if you put it together not just take into account we had a good secound half overall it was pritty poor. Now with bellamy,kuqi and emerton, pederson and reid all looking on the up we can look forward to playing good passing football and create lots of goals hopefully then if we prove we can be a good top half table side and well established and challenging a place for europe. We will then probably be attracting the big companies like orange,siemens and northern rock wanting to sponsor us but until then we just have to make do Edited August 11, 2005 by pick32
Exiled in Toronto Posted August 11, 2005 Posted August 11, 2005 And I would hazard just a little guess (and I might be wrong) that crowd size at the crowd is directly proportional to success on the pitch, which is pretty much proportional to press exposure nationally (internationally doesnt apply - prem coverage in many overseas countries involves Man Utd/Chelsea and Liverpool regardless of league placing. Which of course explains why the Fulham deal was reported as being three times higher, what with their massive crowds, finishing one place higher than us and their much higher global profile. I am sure that you could do a far better job than John Williams, so why dont you apply. This is real life not fairytale land. Good job in difficult circumstances. 337901[/snapback] Interesting concept: comment is only allowed if one can do something better, as opposed to see that something could be done better. Since Amo is probably a better centre half than you, you'll be refraining from any opinions should he play then?
stuwilky Posted August 11, 2005 Posted August 11, 2005 Interesting concept: comment is only allowed if one can do something better, as opposed to see that something could be done better. Since Amo is probably a better centre half than you, you'll be refraining from any opinions should he play then? 338142[/snapback] I dont dislike Amo
Flopsy Posted August 11, 2005 Posted August 11, 2005 he rules - just to watch a number of posters choke on their bile
Guest Vinjay Posted August 11, 2005 Posted August 11, 2005 If anyone else was to sign it would probably be a loan or a free. The Walkers won't want to spend anything despite their 600 million plus. 4 million was such a huge loss for them.
Flopsy Posted August 11, 2005 Posted August 11, 2005 Have you been to see John Williams yet. I suppose it must be quite hard with your head so far up your own behind
Guest Vinjay Posted August 11, 2005 Posted August 11, 2005 Surprised with 4 million actually seeing as they are so faceless we don't even hear any statements from them outlining ambition...ever.
S15 Posted August 11, 2005 Posted August 11, 2005 You f**king rock man... Keep on protesting,... We need edgey activists like you as fans..... WALKERS OUT!!!!!!!
philipl Posted August 11, 2005 Posted August 11, 2005 (edited) Can we just ban Vinjay for being so boring and spineless? Let him back when he files a report of his meeting with John Williams. Edited August 11, 2005 by philipl
todd_could_take_tyson Posted August 11, 2005 Posted August 11, 2005 Surprised with 4 million actually seeing as they are so faceless we don't even hear any statements from them outlining ambition...ever. 338288[/snapback] ABSOLUTELY NO NEED FOR THAT CONSIDER YOURSELF WARNED
Manchester Blue Posted August 11, 2005 Posted August 11, 2005 Vinjay why don't you do us all a favour and either tell us about your meeting with John Williams or shut up and stop posting.
greggyk Posted August 11, 2005 Posted August 11, 2005 he's also missing a major point in that when we had the Walkers money, WE STILL WENT DOWN!!
SIMON GARNERS 194 Posted August 11, 2005 Posted August 11, 2005 (edited) Back the the sponsorship comment Personally I find it a bitter pill to swallow when the likes of fookin WIGAN,yes that great footballing club/tradition of WIGAN ATHLETIC PLC can command bigger sponsorship than ex-Premierleague champions Blackburn Rovers. 'KIN ELL!! But then again you only have to look at the Ewood Roverstore/Sportsworld/Lonsdale cheap bric a brac shop to see the way the clubs whole commercial side is heading....down the drain. Edited August 11, 2005 by SIMON GARNERS 194
cn174 Posted August 11, 2005 Posted August 11, 2005 Personally I find it a bitter pill to swallow when the likes of fookin WIGAN,yes that great footballing club/tradition of WIGAN ATHLETIC PLC can command bigger sponsorship than ex-Premierleague champions Blackburn Rovers. 'KIN ELL!! 338321[/snapback] Surely Wigan is a bit of a case of its own, seen as the same person who owns then, also owns the company that sponsors them?
Exiled in Toronto Posted August 12, 2005 Posted August 12, 2005 Surely Wigan is a bit of a case of its own, seen as the same person who owns then, also owns the company that sponsors them? 338329[/snapback] I think the point was made a while ago that the entity which owns us also owns a company that chooses to sponsor Birmingham instead. Personally I find the argument that Blackburn doesn't have an airport a bit weak. The majority of JJB's sales aren't in Wigan or Reebok's in Bolton. Shirt sponsorship is about national coverage, and we have had at least as much of that as have Brum in the last 4 years.
Manchester Blue Posted August 12, 2005 Posted August 12, 2005 Yes but the point is that certainly at the start if it's sponsorship it was based at Birmingham International and still files mostly from there. With that in mind it makes a hell of a lot more sense to sponsor them. We already receive enough charity from the trust without getting more from the other companies as well.
Lee Posted August 12, 2005 Posted August 12, 2005 Nobody at the Sunday Telegraph has spoken to the club about the sponsorship value, so its evident that they've simply guessed. And wrongly.
roversmum Posted August 12, 2005 Posted August 12, 2005 Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooh, Lee, don't be such a spoilsport. They'll have to find something else to moan about now.
Guest Vinjay Posted August 12, 2005 Posted August 12, 2005 Doubt the Walkers will be there. They probably don't even know who Rovers are playing.
coffeeman Posted August 12, 2005 Posted August 12, 2005 Doubt the Walkers will be there. They probably don't even know who Rovers are playing. 338452[/snapback] Is that something John Williams told you when you met?
Guest Vinjay Posted August 12, 2005 Posted August 12, 2005 It would have made more sense to sponsor Birmingham rugby team or something. Bet they were pleased with Birmingham finishing higher last season. Actually Birmingham had the lowest kit sponsor deal last season. Typically cheap of the Walkers.
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