[Archived] The Old Gate Debate

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

JW has asked Rovers fans to be the 12th man against Salzburg next Thursday and fill Ewood...with ticket prices at £15 for adults and £5 for kids lets make it a night to remember and roar Rovers through to the group stage.

[gumboots]

Before the young adult season tickets were introduced, the 17 year olds went on to full season tickets and most people could not afford that, so there are likely to be more 17-21 year olds than before.

Not necessarily. Previously more 17 year olds went into employment. Now at least 65-70% of kids are expected to stay in education till they are at least 18 and the student population has increased massively. When I went to Uni you got a grant-not a lot but you weren't expected to pay it back. Now students get landed with horrendous debts based on the false assumption that they will earn much more money than non-graduates. However, when 35% of the young adult population are aiming for degrees or other higher qualifications then it's harder to get that well-paid job, at least initially and when you do the government starts clawing your money back.

[SAS]

i believe we should have student tickets for match day sales

i think this would increase our attendence as i know a lot of friends that only go to a few games a year at £32, but if they could pay say £20 student ticket they would be able to get to more

[Paul]

Hannah made the point about City fans being moved from the cheaper areas to the DE on Sunday. I can't find the post right now.

A source I trust, not inside the club, has told me hundreds of Everton fans arrived with junior concession tickets for that game. Apparently the first few were refused entry but when the size of the problem became apparent the police and club decided the safer solution was to allow them entry.

I don't know if its true, and I've only heard it from one person, but this is not from someone who would make up such a remark

[Dan Furness]

i believe we should have student tickets for match day sales

i think this would increase our attendence as i know a lot of friends that only go to a few games a year at £32, but if they could pay say £20 student ticket they would be able to get to more

Why students, why not young adult tickets just as season ticket wise?

Havent you scroungers got enough as it is, your entire European adventure this summer has been funded by people who work!

[DavidMailsTightPerm]

Hannah made the point about City fans being moved from the cheaper areas to the DE on Sunday. I can't find the post right now.

A source I trust, not inside the club, has told me hundreds of Everton fans arrived with junior concession tickets for that game. Apparently the first few were refused entry but when the size of the problem became apparent the police and club decided the safer solution was to allow them entry.

I don't know if its true, and I've only heard it from one person, but this is not from someone who would make up such a remark

In either case they should be told to cough up the extra dosh or go away. I can understand the police view on this - but looking at it this is actually fraud.

[stuwilky]

Why students, why not young adult tickets just as season ticket wise?

Havent you scroungers got enough as it is, your entire European adventure this summer has been funded by people who work!

Why not everyone?

Lets not bother charging anymore in fact, just give tickets away.

[roversmum]

In either case they should be told to cough up the extra dosh or go away. I can understand the police view on this - but looking at it this is actually fraud.

and I wouldn't mind betting that they wouldn't get away with it at any other ground

[92er]

Not necessarily. Previously more 17 year olds went into employment. Now at least 65-70% of kids are expected to stay in education till they are at least 18 and the student population has increased massively. When I went to Uni you got a grant-not a lot but you weren't expected to pay it back. Now students get landed with horrendous debts based on the false assumption that they will earn much more money than non-graduates. However, when 35% of the young adult population are aiming for degrees or other higher qualifications then it's harder to get that well-paid job, at least initially and when you do the government starts clawing your money back.

Yes, you're right, but I was particularly relating to the time over the last 15 years or so. I knew very keen fans who went till they were 16 and could no longer afford when they were 17 and were students.

[CAPT KAYOS]

and I wouldn't mind betting that they wouldn't get away with it at any other ground

Probably so very very true Roversmum and it also sets a precedent now - if it is true and word gets out who is to say what would happen with Liverpool/MU/Newcastle fans did the same and the majority turned up with concession tickets - What the hell would they do then???

[SAS]

Why students, why not young adult tickets just as season ticket wise?

Havent you scroungers got enough as it is, your entire European adventure this summer has been funded by people who work!

simply because students cannot work 40 hours a week

and my european adventure was funded by my work and not my student loan

however my motorbike and world cup ....

[thenodrog]

Hannah made the point about City fans being moved from the cheaper areas to the DE on Sunday. I can't find the post right now.

A source I trust, not inside the club, has told me hundreds of Everton fans arrived with junior concession tickets for that game. Apparently the first few were refused entry but when the size of the problem became apparent the police and club decided the safer solution was to allow them entry.

I don't know if its true, and I've only heard it from one person, but this is not from someone who would make up such a remark

So thats the reason for no concessions on some grounds is it? Makes sense.

[Ozz]

Reading seem to think they wont be having AN Old Gate Debate anytime soon

[Hughesy]

I think the young adult tickets should be an option for all games on a ticket by ticket basis for both home & away fans - however proof of I.D needs to be checked.

If they havent got I.D then they dont come in on a reduced price - simple!

[Modi]

I think the young adult tickets should be an option for all games on a ticket by ticket basis for both home & away fans - however proof of I.D needs to be checked.

If they havent got I.D then they dont come in on a reduced price - simple!

And we moved to electronic tickets to reduce staffing levels at turnstiles.

Having to check on those who may or may not be 'young persons' would require additional staffing - it's preety easy to spot someone getting in on a pensioners or a kids ticket!

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

Lets see how many 'walk-ons' appear next Thursday with season ticket holders getting in free.....I bet the fair- weathers are moaning about that now in the pubs and clubs of Blackburn.

You just get the feeling Rovers are p1ssing against the wind constantly.

[thenodrog]

Indeed. I think the 'all the club needs to do is let us in cheap' brigade are in for a shock. We'll just have to wait and see eh?

[Tris]

Lets see how many 'walk-ons' appear next Thursday with season ticket holders getting in free.....I bet the fair- weathers are moaning about that now in the pubs and clubs of Blackburn.

You just get the feeling Rovers are p1ssing against the wind constantly.

European football - the chance that every club strives for outside of the annual Champions League Foursome.

A healthy position from which to progress into the group stage. The match which dictates whether the immense effort of 38 tough league games last season was a waste of time or not.

15 quid in - anywhere in Ewood.

If nothing else, we might find out how many non-season ticket holders give a stuff!!!!

[stuwilky]

Well Ive managed to get a four people to come along who wouldnt normally.

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

Totally agree Tris,a sort of acid test for the cost argument.

One adult and child for £20, over to you folk of Blackburn and beyond....................................................

[Modi]

I've persuaded a mate who's not a Rovers fan and hasn't been for over 2 years to come along to the Salzburg match.

[philipl]

It would be fantastic to see a 20,000+ crowd on Thursday to show that dropping ticket prices really does work.

[thenodrog]

It would be fantastic to see a 20,000+ crowd on Thursday to show that dropping ticket prices really does work.

Flying in for the match are you Philip?

[Hypo-Luxa]

I don't care who comes out the winner in the cost vs quality vs marketing failure vs whatever else arguments...I just hope this prompts the public to hit the turnstiles. A true test to see how the more financially provident really feel about getting to the match.

If this turns out to be an overwhelming success how do you locals see it affecting future Cup matches, whether Euro or domestic? You think this is going to have any effect at all?

[stuwilky]

I don't care who comes out the winner in the cost vs quality vs marketing failure vs whatever else arguments...I just hope this prompts the public to hit the turnstiles. A true test to see how the more financially provident really feel about getting to the match.

If this turns out to be an overwhelming success how do you locals see it affecting future Cup matches, whether Euro or domestic? You think this is going to have any effect at all?

The difficulty with the domestic cups is the ticket prices having to be agreed with the away club.