Manchester Blue Posted November 21, 2005 Posted November 21, 2005 They have quite a few...Nosworthy, Whitehead, Lawrence... Shame they're all crap like. 362324[/snapback] None of those are home-grown.
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waggy Posted November 21, 2005 Posted November 21, 2005 WAS WATCHING THE CHAMPIONSHIP at the weekend and sheff wed have a burton o,brian is it our old trianee
FourLaneBlue Posted November 21, 2005 Author Posted November 21, 2005 WAS WATCHING THE CHAMPIONSHIP at the weekend and sheff wed have a burton o,brian is it our old trianee 362338[/snapback] Yes although he wasn't just a trainee...we bought him and David Mcnamee. Mcnamee is back in Scotland with Livingston and did well enough to be called up to the full Scotland squad last season.
waggy Posted November 21, 2005 Posted November 21, 2005 i can remenber kidd buying them from st mirren but were they not only about 17 at the time
Blue blood Posted November 21, 2005 Posted November 21, 2005 The decision to slim down the academy scene to clubs fielding one U18 side is definitely a positive step imo. The chances of a player slipping through, perhaps, is increased but that is off-set by the fact less expense goes on players who will clearly not make it. I think the youth international scene could do with something similar - although obviously not reducing to just one youth side per country but what is the point of U17s, U18s, U19s and U20s? How many of these players even make it to the U21s? 362071[/snapback] I'd disagree. Its made the reserve league a lot weaker with far more young players in it. Granted this gives more youngsters a chance at this level but it was not the level it was. IMO the step up from reserve level to premiership level is far greater these days which may be one of the reasons that contribute to why less players are breaking into the first team, the jump in quality is much higher they are far less prepared. Serious attitude problems! What a cupid stunt eh? Yep and I think that could be seen when for the reserves. Can't remember which game it was but he was captaining the reserves and was getting a hard time from the opposing centre forward. Rather than role up his sleves like the Admiral or Todd would do he proceeded to have a paddy on the floor. You can also see it when he made runs which weren't singled out, many again resulted in him having a winge. If he could sort out his attitude problems I think he could make it. IMO his success came far too soon. His speed needs to improve most of all, but that's the duller aspect of training, and I'd be worried that he wouldn't sort his attitude out to deal with it.
FourLaneBlue Posted November 21, 2005 Author Posted November 21, 2005 i can remenber kidd buying them from st mirren but were they not only about 17 at the time 362363[/snapback] Yes but I think we paid something stupid like half a million for them. A lot of money straight down the drain.
The Fly Posted November 21, 2005 Posted November 21, 2005 They were bought and loaned straight back. And really, I don't think we can call those two the worst buys of the Kidd regime!! Interested to see Gallager on the left wing, how did he do? Is his loan season-long?
Billy Castell Posted November 21, 2005 Posted November 21, 2005 Any updates on Matty Derbyshire and Jemal Johnson ?.
DanLad Posted November 21, 2005 Posted November 21, 2005 Interested to see Gallager on the left wing, how did he do? Is his loan season-long? 362383[/snapback] Didn't Gally play wide midfield roles for us a couple of times? He did OK, if memory serves.
joey_big_nose Posted November 21, 2005 Posted November 21, 2005 Didn't Gally play wide midfield roles for us a couple of times? He did OK, if memory serves. 362440[/snapback] He played wide but suffered from a lack of pace and dribbling ability. Also he alway wanted to drift inside. His crossing was good though! If Gally is going to make it as a player it will be in the mold of Sheringham. All his strengths mirror big teds- good short passing, good movement, good finishing. THe problem for Gally is that to convince a manager to play you in that role you need to be bloody good at it, and I am not sure he really is. Two things will infinately increase his chances- putting on some muscle, and putting in a 100% every match. Whether he wants to do that is the big question. Nonetheless I cant see him making a career on the wing.
rover6 Posted November 21, 2005 Posted November 21, 2005 (edited) One thing Gallagher definitely has in his favour is fantastic technique when it comes to kicking a football. His crossing is decent and long range shooting, including the dead ball, is also generally good. It sounds like he's refinding the form at Stoke that he was showing for the reserves before making the step up to the Rovers firsts. Any updates on Matty Derbyshire Bit of an MGP/Souey/Hughes situation with Matty. The manager who signed him departed soon after he arrived and the new man, Tony Pulis (that aesthete of fine football ), has his own preferences - namely, 6ft plus beasts to play up front to get their heads on the long ball. He does make the odd late sub appearance, I think. Edited November 21, 2005 by rover6
JamieUK Posted November 22, 2005 Posted November 22, 2005 I went on North End on Saturday and Jemal looked out of his depth at that level. :s He didn't seem to have any understanding with the players on his team - going into spaces but his teammates didn't once play him in with a good ball. Perhaps he's used to playing with better players who can spot his runs and that's why he looked useless?!? I think he would have been better off staying at Rovers than going out on loan.
krislu Posted November 22, 2005 Posted November 22, 2005 I must admit it's a bit disappointing that non of our young home-grown players have made some sort of impact since Hughes became our manager. I remember how good it felt when McEveley was having a great game at OT, when Gallagher got the winner at St.James' and of course when Stead (not home grown, but young and exciting) saved us from relegation. Jonathan Douglas also made some decent performances the same season. When I as an Norwegian feels the "buzz" having a homegrown player involved, then there must be at least as exciting for a Blackburn born supporter to experience the same thing! If we could get some of our young players more involved, and of course they have to bring something to the party, then I'm sure that in itself would making the trip down to Ewood more tempting. I think its very important for a local, small town club like blackburn to have at least one or two home-grown players involved with the first team. I hope to see at least one "unknown" youngster on the bench in our game against Charlton in the Carling Cup!
rover6 Posted November 22, 2005 Posted November 22, 2005 I think its very important for a local, small town club like blackburn to have at least one or two home-grown players involved with the first team. I hope to see at least one "unknown" youngster on the bench in our game against Charlton in the Carling Cup! 362490[/snapback] I agree but our squad is so big that youngsters are going to have to do something exceptional to even get on the bench. That's not saying fringe players like Gresko, Flitcroft, Mokoena, Jansen etc are exceptional but Hughes will nearly opt for their experience to fill gaps.
krislu Posted November 22, 2005 Posted November 22, 2005 That's not saying fringe players like Gresko, Flitcroft, Mokoena, Jansen etc are exceptional but Hughes will nearly opt for their experience to fill gaps. 362497[/snapback] I would rather see Joe Garner on the bench at Charlton than Matt Jansen, he surely can not do much worse, and he at least knows where the goal stands!
todd_could_take_tyson Posted November 22, 2005 Posted November 22, 2005 For anyone interested, stoke fans on gallagher possibly joining them http://boards.rivals.net/default.asp?sid=9...ytoid=533288193
Presty On Tour Posted November 22, 2005 Posted November 22, 2005 are we looking to sell gally then?? thought he was a player for the future. wonder if he still loves kappa clothing so much
rog of the rovers Posted November 22, 2005 Posted November 22, 2005 Loan Players tonight: McEveley- full 90 in Ipswich's 3-0 defeat at home to Reading Johnson- Unused not even on subs bench Derbyshire- Unused sub Gallagher- started but subbed after 76 mins in Stoke's 2-1 defeat vs. Derby Douglas- Time wasting substitute as Leeds beat Dingles 2-0
Exiled_Rover Posted November 22, 2005 Posted November 22, 2005 Loan Players tonight: McEveley- full 90 in Ipswich's 3-0 defeat at home to Reading Johnson- Unused not even on subs bench Derbyshire- Unused sub Gallagher- started but subbed after 76 mins in Stoke's 2-1 defeat vs. Derby Douglas- Time wasting substitute as Leeds beat Dingles 2-0 362597[/snapback] And you wonder why Hughes even bothers
philipl Posted November 23, 2005 Posted November 23, 2005 Well Harkness scored for Blackpool in their LDV defeat at Carlisle last night and I think he is one of our's. The only one of our loan players in the Pepsi Challenge who is enhancing his chances at the moment is Matt Derbyshire by virtue of not being picked by one of football management's neanderthals.... At least we know we can safely flog the rest if anyone will offer anything more than discarded ring pulls for them.
bob fleming Posted November 23, 2005 Posted November 23, 2005 Well Harkness scored for Blackpool in their LDV defeat at Carlisle last night and I think he is one of our's.362611[/snapback] Gary Harkins is the player on loan. Steve Harkness once played for us under Souness. He wasn't very good.
FourLaneBlue Posted November 23, 2005 Author Posted November 23, 2005 Gary Harkins is the player on loan. Steve Harkness once played for us under Souness. He wasn't very good. 362623[/snapback] ...and apparently it was Tommy Wright who scored the goal for Blackpool! Never mind philip...we all have those moments! Carlisle United 2, Blackpool 1
philipl Posted November 23, 2005 Posted November 23, 2005 Thanks guys. Clearly our loanee is doing very well at Blackpool in avoiding all the confusion....
Presty On Tour Posted November 23, 2005 Posted November 23, 2005 Gary Harkins is the player on loan. Steve Harkness once played for us under Souness. He wasn't very good. 362623[/snapback] didn't he used to play full back for liverpool in the early 90's??? anyone know how old this geezer is now? must be in the sheringham age bracket??
philipl Posted November 23, 2005 Posted November 23, 2005 Gary Harkins scored for Blackpool last night- the Beeb says so! Quick, sign him up!
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