Liverpool Fans

[stuwilky]

We've already agreed to move it to 5.15 on April 15th AT LIVERPOOL'S REQUEST once for crying out loud. Did they request the game on another date then when it didn't ideally suit their fixture list? Did they heck?

We may get a bit of bad press in certain quarters from those who don't know the full facts if we fail to move it for a second time, but that doesn't alter the fact that it is Rovers decision and Rovers decision alone whether to move it.

Any compensation claim Krislu and other Rovers fans might have (which technically they probably don't) should lie against Rovers.

We will always be the team that fails to look after the interests of our own fans in preference to those of other teams if we re to carry on like that.

Even more importantly is it in the best interests of Hughes and the Rovers team to move the date of the fixture? If Liverpool themselves weren't prepared to do this if it wasn't in their team's best interests, why the hell should we?

390975[/snapback]

I dont disagree with you.

Although as a Rovers fan I think you are being incredibly naive about the way the press will receive this. you know as well as I do that they are not actually interested in facts.

this is big club hard done to Liverpool agaist little old dirty Blackburn Rovers.

Whatever the facts of the matter are is irrelevant will will be portrayed as the bad guys.

[adopted scouser]

this is big club hard done to Liverpool agaist little old dirty Blackburn Rovers.

390979[/snapback]

You're right stu

[Tris]

It's most unfortunate that things have got to this messy situation. If Liverpool FC and the fans they communicate with really don't want to play on 15 April then that should be crystal clear and communicated to the FA, Prem League, UEFA, etc etc.

Then when the fixtures came out the two clubs could have sat down in June last year and found gaps in the schedule to rearrange the fixture.

The fact that Liverpool accepted to play on that date when it suited their potential fixture congestion means that their own ethical argument has gone. Parry has done the clever thing by releasing a statement which only tells half the story. He should have told the media "it's Blackburn's home game and they were 100% flexible and understanding in already agreeing to move the fixture once"

Adding the Sky money into the mix has complicated things even further. I'm sure Rovers would have been quietly pleased that changing the KO time brought with it the possibility of some extra cash. They can hardly claim to have lost out if another move loses Sky coverage for what was originally a non-Sky fixture.

I totally understand that certain Liverpool fans will never want to play another game on this date, but the lack of clear direction from their own club is to blame for where we are now.

I hope that whatever happens Rovers put out a clear statement to the media saying exactly what we've done to help so far and that for once we get the credit we deserve for being the club that we always are - understanding, compassionate and keen to do the right thing for all concerned.

[stuwilky]

Im hardly surprised.

When these people have no reply they simply say "have you no respect".

If thats the best you can come up with mate.

If you dont want to play, then dont play.

3 points in the bag will do us nicely.

[dillo_dillo]

I really hope they do not change the date of the game, I have already booked plane tickets and an apartment in Manchester...

390967[/snapback]

I have same problem.It's really cost me.

[rog of the rovers]

5.15 was fine a month ago but now its an outrage?

What? I just don't get it. Being in Liverpool you sense the Hillsbrough disaster could have happened a year ago, and Im sure if one of my relatives was killed I would feel the same way, BUT isn't the best way of celebrating their life by playing football the thing that unites us all.

Surely a 5.15 or 8pm kick off on the 15th and a minutes silence/applause would be the best way to remember their lives.

[RevidgeBlue]

You're right stu

390982[/snapback]

Should Blackburn Rovers really be bothered about what those jokers think?

One of the HJC campaigners admits on the site not even all Liverpool fans are that bothered.

They're predictably referred to as "knuckle draggers" or modern day "glory hunters"

Ironic given they've won relatively little over the last 15 or 16 years compared with the 70's and 80's.

[Ste B]

Nothing to do with Liverpool.

390971[/snapback]

No, it isnt now, because their Chief Exec has done a good job of passing the buck to us.

IMO Rover club should look after its season ticket holders who may well have made plans for the rest of the weekend given the previously confirmed date, and also consider those who took this date as being a confirmation and booked travel. If LFC want to move the date that badly, the least they can do is cover those expenses.

Of course Sky will probably come to the rescue and ask for a Sunday game anyway now giving us no choice in the matter.

[RevidgeBlue]

Of course Sky will probably come to the rescue and ask for a Sunday game anyway now giving us no choice in the matter.

390992[/snapback]

Hope that happens, if it does that would get us neatly off the hook with both sets of fans, and that section of Liverpool support will still be brassed off with Parry because he agreed to a change for Sky but not because of the Hillsborough tragedy etc.

[Ozz]

All those LFC fans complaining on their site ###### me off. Because we have an opinion that is not the same as theirs, they say 'You @#/?s, respect the dead' etc.

Rovers fans are not to blame for this mess. Neither are the Liverpool fans. It is not as close to home to us as them so they take it as an insult if you don't agree with them.

The FA and the Liverpool board are to blame that there is still an issue, not BRFC and fans.

We agreed to move once, no problem. To agree another change is not fair.

5.15PM kick off, everyone. Deal with it.

[stuwilky]

It would be fascinating if Rovers were to put the ball well and firmly back in the LFC court by going public with a statement saying "we agreed once, as requested, ages ago. you published it, our fans made arrangements. And a month later you change your mind on what you want? tough."

Edited March 15, 2006 by stuwilky

[RevidgeBlue]

It would be fascinating if Rovers were to put the ball well and firmly back in the LFC court by going public with a statement saying "we agreed once, as requested, ages ago.  you published it, our fans made arrangements.  And a month later you change your mind on what you want?  tough."

390999[/snapback]

I would say it's essential. The key point being that the change of time, but not date, was at their request.

[den]

Sorry guys, but being awkward, [to their credit], simply isn't rovers way of doing.

Hopefully rovers will get back to Liverpool and come to a final arrangement, one that suits both clubs, as quickly as possible. After that, Liverpool FC will have to sort themselves out for their future fixtures - and stick to it.

[RevidgeBlue]

Sorry guys, but being awkward, [to their credit], simply isn't rovers way of doing.

391006[/snapback]

Sorry Den, but if we cave in again, it's being excessively awkward to our OWN supporters who have booked travel arrangements.

And quite possibly Mark Hughes and the team.

[den]

Cave in? It isn't a battle Simon. What's a bad date for some, is a good date for others. There's no ideal time to play.

[RevidgeBlue]

Cave in?  It isn't a battle Simon. What's a bad date for some, is a good date for others. There's no ideal time to play.

391011[/snapback]

Perhaps "cave in" wa the wrong expression. Other than that you're exactly right. We're bound to displease some people now whenever we play so we should consider the wishes of our own support first. Especially after accomodating Liverpool once already.

[stuwilky]

Sky have no 4pm match on the Sunday.....

Just get it moved now, sod the 4 weeks of arseing about, the sooner its shifted the longer people have to make plans.

[Tris]

Sorry Den, but if we cave in again, it's being excessively awkward to our OWN supporters who have booked travel arrangements.

And quite possibly Mark Hughes and the team.

391010[/snapback]

Using language like "cave in" doesn't really help. Neither does the rubbish being spouted by Liverpool fans on the site in the links further up this thread.

Common sense is needed here, and where Parry and LFC have lacked any I'm sure that when Tom Finn / John Williams respond on behalf of Blackburn Rovers, common sense will be very much in evidence.

In the meantime we should all take a step back and perhaps remember the underlying issues. The internet is a great discussion forum, but in this case it is generating an undercurrent of bad feeling which just should not be there in these particular circumstances.

[RevidgeBlue]

Common sense is needed here, and where Parry and LFC have lacked any

391016[/snapback]

Is that really the case though?

Liverpool (rightly or wrongly) choose to consult with the HFSG. They did this at the start of the season and given all the prevailing circumstances a decision was taken to request an away fixture on the 15th which the Premier League apparently granted.

The only lack of common sense comes from a certain section of the Liverpool support. Not altogether surprising judging by the contributions on the liverpool fansite.

[cletus]

Do Liverpool fans object to matches played on 29th May aswell?

[jim mk2]

Using language like "rubbish" doesn't really help. Liverpool fans have strong feelings on the subject that one may or may not agree with but they are entitled to their views.

I'm sure Williams and Finn will handle this matter in the same sensitive manner as their handling of the dismissal of Tony Parkes. Apologists for the esteemed Rovers management team may as well brace themselves now to have to change their arrangements for the Liverpool game.

[philipl]

If Sky agree to reschedule, if Rovers don't feel that moving the fixture closer to the Wednesday game harms Rovers' chances of Champions League football, then provided LFC recompense all the fans who have already made financial commitments to go to the game (including buying their match tickets off them), there is a case for moving it.

Why should Rovers' fans be inconvenienced, out of pocket and generally mucked about because Liverpool turned in two performances against Benfica that made the Mancs' efforts look heroic in comparisson?

[bob fleming]

After that, Liverpool FC will have to sort themselves out for their future fixtures - and stick to it.

391006[/snapback]

Unless of course they have a hectic schedule and they're playing in Europe, in which case it's OK to play the game on the 15th - or at least it was a month ago.

Sky have no 4pm match on the Sunday.....

Just get it moved now, sod the 4 weeks of arseing about, the sooner its shifted the longer people have to make plans.

391014[/snapback]

We play Big Club on the 17th though - it's Easter.

[Ste B]

We play Big Club on the 17th though - it's Easter.

391038[/snapback]

We play on Wednesday the 19th for some strange reason.

[bob fleming]

We play on Wednesday the 19th for some strange reason.

391039[/snapback]

Whoops. You're both right.