[Archived] So Just Where Are All The Ex-rovers?

[thenodrog]

Before you young uns take the p1ss......... this lad would've walked into the team now.

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/...ice_assault.php

[AggyBlue]

  thenodrog said:

Before you young uns take the p1ss......... this lad would've walked into the team now.

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/...ice_assault.php

Slapped her? I reckon he was just wiping his hand.

I always classed Hird and Bailey as wingers, as such, Jim's Smiths team sometimes turned out with five wingers in the team.

Or is my memory playing tricks on me again

[No Nay Never]

  den said:

We could have kept those lads and pushed them into midfield against Bolton. They have all the credentials:

1] they're young

2]

Always amazes me how lads like Gary Stopforth can go from captaining the reserves, which says to me not to far away from being considered for first team.. to playing non-league football within a week.

Also i still play football with Kevin Hird on a regular basis, and I think we should resign him to play in the middle V Bolton on Sunday... ( Yeah he told me to say that). He says he will have a look on here as well in the not to distant future.

[speeeeeeedie]

  No Nay Never said:

Always amazes me how lads like Gary Stopforth can go from captaining the reserves, which says to me not to far away from being considered for first team.. to playing non-league football within a week.

In order to develop footballers have to play in a team. Academy coaches have to have 11 players who are signed on 3 year (with 5 year option if they're deemed good enough) scholarships once they leave school. If they only signed lads who were going to make it there would be about 2 in each academy. They sign players for positions, they sign players with potential, they also sign potential stars who need a team to develop nurturing. The academy only last for 3 years, they have to go somewhere else after that or they don't get a game, the reserves is the next level, and certainly not a good barometer for being close to the first team.

An academy coach will look at who he's got and think "Right, next year I need a left winger, 2 full backs, and a striker." So they go out and get the best they can whether they are currently training with the under 15's or not. Granted if John Barnes, Ashely Cole, Wes Brown, and Shearer signed he'd have 4 stars on his hands who would progress quickly. But more often than not they get decent players who can play that position but don't quite have it but will serve a role, get an experience they'll never forget, a fit bird, no real academic qualifications, and a decent non-league career at the end of it.

If the academy was about developing players to make money and I was a coach, I'd sign every striker around. However, most of them would end up pants as they couldn't all play up front every game; then I'd get the sack. However the academies are supposed to bring on the team of the future, but they never do.

[DanLad]

  speeeeeeedie said:

If the academy was about developing players to make money and I was a coach, I'd sign every striker around. However, most of them would end up pants as they couldn't all play up front every game; then I'd get the sack.

LOL!

You're a clearly a very shrewd chap, Speeeeeds.

[den]

  No Nay Never said:

Always amazes me how lads like Gary Stopforth can go from captaining the reserves, which says to me not to far away from being considered for first team.. to playing non-league football within a week.

Also i still play football with Kevin Hird on a regular basis, and I think we should resign him to play in the middle V Bolton on Sunday... ( Yeah he told me to say that). He says he will have a look on here as well in the not to distant future.

Any chance of getting him to do a Q&A for the site?

[No Nay Never]

  den said:

Any chance of getting him to do a Q&A for the site?

I don't see that being a problem den, ill clear it with him tomorrow and let you know.

[den]

  No Nay Never said:

I don't see that being a problem den, ill clear it with him tomorrow and let you know.

Fantastic.

[rover6]

What a few days for Mark King! He's had terrible injuries over the years which have restricted his reserve chances but was snapped up by Accy Stanley after impressing in a behind-closed-doors friendly and he made his senior debut today. (Stanley lost).

Good luck to him.

[DanLad]

  rover6 said:

What a few days for Mark King!

Born to be a defender with that name. Same is Nicky Marker.

[revolutionrock!]

  thenodrog said:

Before you young uns take the p1ss......... this lad would've walked into the team now.

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/...ice_assault.php

Dingle

[ABBEY]

not been thru the entire thread delete or tell me what page......what are don martin,waddy and meccy doing these days???

[Foxxx]

Dunno if this really counts or not, being a former coach, but Ed Baranowski has joined the Wellington Phoenix setup here in New Zealand

Phoenix coach conditioned to succeed

[b12_simon]

Carsley leaves Everton

I know he was a bit bobbins for us but he had some good years at Everton.

[LDRover]

  b12_simon said:

Carsley leaves Everton

I know he was a bit bobbins for us but he had some good years at Everton.

I believe he makes his money on repeat fees of TV Burp these days anyway.

[nicko]

I hear Mark Atkins is working on a building site in Sheffield and may be featured in Sky's 'Where are they now?' programme shortly. A top guy.

[Darth Paul]

Massively underrated player in our title win...

[AggyBlue]

  nicko said:

I hear Mark Atkins is working on a building site in Sheffield and may be featured in Sky's 'Where are they now?' programme shortly. A top guy.

I thought he married into the Walker family or have I got it completely wrong?

[LDRover]

I'm sure Atko still lives at Jack Key's in Darwen, last time I heard of him he was Stalybridge Celtic assistant manager.

[b12_simon]

  LDRover said:

I'm sure Atko still lives at Jack Key's in Darwen, last time I heard of him he was Stalybridge Celtic assistant manager.

Sacked in 2007 according to Wikipedia (unreliable, I know)

[b12_simon]

  b12_simon said:

Carsley leaves Everton

I know he was a bit bobbins for us but he had some good years at Everton.

Gone to Big Club

[Ronin]

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"I've joined a club that's building for the future and trying to get where Everton are," said Carsley.

Don't really see Big Club reaching the heady heights of where Everton are, for a long time, if ever.

[LeftWinger]

  Ronin said:

Don't really see Big Club reaching the heady heights of where Everton are, for a long time, if ever.

I was just reading the article where Savage says he wanted Big Club to be relegated again. At the bottom there is a comment by a Mr Kunal Patel a Manchester United fan that I enjoyed:

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I think it's shocking how he is really willing them to go down. I'm sure they paid him reasonably well and gave him premier league football. He blatantly used them as a stepping stone towards a bigger team...like Blackburn

[Napoleon]

  b12_simon said:

Carsley leaves Everton

I know he was a bit bobbins for us but he had some good years at Everton.

I thought he was one of very few decent players in a very poor period for us. The reaction he got when he decided to leave, boos and all, made me think others thought the same.

[den]

I was reading an edition of Lancashire Life yesterday. It was last years edition, but there was an article about Craig Short in it.

He talked about his 6 yrs at Blackburn and said they were the 6 best years of his life. He also recalled living on a boat in the Lakes and driving down to Brockhall for training, then returning afterwards. He never liked golfing like most other players and always loved sailing. He's now [or was last year] running a sailing school at Windermere. He's also taking a coaching badge as back up, in case he ever feels the need to go back into football.

Edited May 20, 2008 by den