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Yeah, I'm getting it as soon as I've updated my graphics card. I believe they've dropped the multiplayer element that was in the second game so I reckon that ties in to changing developers like you say. I'm glad there's no multiplayer as it was crap in the second one and I remember it winding me up as half of the ps3 trophies were from multiplayer achievements so I just sacked it off in the end.

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I can vouch for the GTX 670 as a good graphics card. I've got one of those and it runs Sim City really nicely on maximum settings, plus almost anything else I've thrown at it. Battlefield 3 gets 60 fps with everything except antialiasing maxed out.

There's the odd exception. Arma 2 - that's 25 fps and it looks terrible. Also the preorder bonus for Bioshock Infinite was a copy of Bioshock 1, and it barely runs. When it doesn't crash on launch, it's maybe 5 fps. Probably a Windows 8 problem rather than anything to do with the hardware.

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It's about the same as an Xbox cost when they were new, and a lot less than a PS3 was, so not exactly outrageous when you consider it outperforms a PS4. That's how I justify it to myself anyway.

Bioshock finally unlocked but now it's too late to play. I ran the benchmark utility though and it averaged 65 fps on 'Ultra DX11 with diffusion depth of field' at 1920x1200 resolution.

edit: Just tried it on 'very low' settings at the same resolution and it still looks great (218 fps) so it's not a game that's going to require a graphics card upgrade.

I'm totally enjoying this PC gaming thing - never owned one before, the last games computer I had was an Amiga.

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What kind of card have you got?

Even if you switch everything off I don't think you're missing out on much. As far as my two runs of the benchmark go, I wasn't exactly amazed by how it looked on Ultra or shocked by how it was on very low. It has that familiar Unreal Engine look - it's definitely not something like Crysis, where you get a huge increase in quality (and hardware requirements) when you turn up the settings. It just gets a bit sharper and less jaggy.

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Yeah, I've just gone through all the benchmarks and the best I get is an overall average of 16.15 on "Very Low" :) As you say though, visually there wasn't that much you would notice in game between the Ultra and Very Low settings.

I only have a lowly GTX 520 as I stopped gaming on my PC a few years ago as everything just worked on PS3 and XBOX. I'm now getting a bit more back into it as the Kids have the TV 24/7 so was thinking of spending a little more on a semi decent card. Currently looking at the GTX660. Can't stretch to a TI unfortunately and the 670 is WAY out of my price bracket. Some places have mentioned the AMD 7870 (I think it was) as a rival to the 660 but there seems to be pro's and con's to both (plus I've always been a bit of an nvidia person)

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Well, I suppose 16 fps is basically unplayable. The 660 should be pretty good. A massive difference from the 520 anyway!

I only got the 670 because I was looking at upgrading my 2004 vintage iMac, and had budgeted for a new one of those. But then Apple decided to glue the case together so you can't ever upgrade the RAM or hard drive, and remove the disc drive so I can't copy all the CDs I buy to iTunes.

So for the price of a new iMac I got a much higher spec PC, installed Mac OSX on it, and there's the added bonus of being able to run Windows games now.

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LMAO, played for about 30 minutes and my computer died. just suddenly dead which is odd as our house electric normally trips the second someone farts oddly near a plug socket but that didn't blow. I had to leave it for a while and unplug it but it's back on now. I hate PC gaming! PSU should have been ok as its 550W Gigabyte Odin and I've only got 2 small hard drives and 1 dvd writer so I wouldn't have thought I'd have hit the max.

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Great deal (I think anyway) on Steam until 1st April for the Grand Theft Auto Complete
Includes 7 items: Grand Theft Auto III, Grand Theft Auto: Vice City, Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas, Grand Theft Auto, Grand Theft Auto 2, Grand Theft Auto IV, Grand Theft Auto: Episodes from Liberty City

Only £8.74

Think I'll be having a bit of that, even though I've played most of them.

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Digital distribution has never appealed to me but things like the Max Payne deal last month are exactly how it should be used

No way would I pay the same for a download as I would for a physical copy but make it much cheaper and you have yourself a deal

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