mellison24 Posted January 11, 2010 Posted January 11, 2010 He might be lazy and overweight, but he's without a doubt our biggest forward threat. Who do you think will be the next striker to bag over 50 goals for us? Kalinic, one would hope.
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mode_m Posted January 11, 2010 Posted January 11, 2010 Kalinic, one would hope. Kallinic will be lucky to get 50 starts in the EPL at this rate.
RibbleValleyRover Posted January 15, 2010 Posted January 15, 2010 I think Benni is finished at this club, looks overweight and past it. Time to sell him and hopefully raise some funds to bring in a replacement, Kalinic is the future of this club but he needs a strike partner.
Hughesy Posted January 15, 2010 Posted January 15, 2010 Id rather Jason Roberts left 1st...at least Benni has the ability to take a chance
S15 Posted January 15, 2010 Posted January 15, 2010 He's just too fat and slow to get in the position to take the chance. If you'll pardon the expression, we literally have to put it on a plate for him.
RibbleValleyRover Posted January 15, 2010 Posted January 15, 2010 Id rather Jason Roberts left 1st...at least Benni has the ability to take a chance Get rid of them both. Too many past it and not good enough players in this squad.
S15 Posted January 15, 2010 Posted January 15, 2010 Yep. Too many 'past its' and too many 'never gonna bes.'
bubblerrovers Posted January 15, 2010 Posted January 15, 2010 Why would anyone buy Mccarthy?? i think we're guna be stuck with him.
Majiball Posted January 15, 2010 Posted January 15, 2010 Id rather Jason Roberts left 1st...at least Benni has the ability to take a chance Without doubt, surely someone must fancy the football-less Drogba. Get rid of them both. Too many past it and not good enough players in this squad. Play the two kids together so at least we can go down fighting, bring Benni "Five Bellies" McCarthy from the bench if need be. I'd be keeping Benni getting him on the pitch late on when hopefully our two young ones have tired the CB's legs. Hopefully he could bag enough to make it to SA and play. I'd then sell after/during the world cup. Its pretty much a certainty the home nation will at least make the second round and hopefully Benni would be leading the line. A few goals at the world cup and you never know. Couldn't agree more about Roberts though.
cn174 Posted January 15, 2010 Posted January 15, 2010 Its pretty much a certainty the home nation will at least make the second round and hopefully Benni would be leading the line. A few goals at the world cup and you never know. I can't see SA getting out of a group with France, Mexico and Uruguay. Sout Africa are terrible at the moment, they didn't even qualify for the African Nations which has such football giants as Mozambique and Gabon in it!!
Steve Moss Posted January 15, 2010 Posted January 15, 2010 I think Benni is finished at this club, looks overweight and past it. Time to sell him and hopefully raise some funds to bring in a replacement, Kalinic is the future of this club but he needs a strike partner. Agreed. And we need to offload Roberts. Maybe if we sell both Benni and Roberts, we could afford a decent partner for Kalinic. Roberts wages to finance the transfer fee and Benni's wages for the new striker's.
Majiball Posted January 15, 2010 Posted January 15, 2010 I can't see SA getting out of a group with France, Mexico and Uruguay. Sout Africa are terrible at the moment, they didn't even qualify for the African Nations which has such football giants as Mozambique and Gabon in it!! No host team has ever not made the second round, so history is on their side. I think form goes out of the window with these sort of things. Also don't forget having SA in for a couple of the later stages is worth good money to FIFA and as they proved with their seeding fiasco they have no issues bending rules for their own means. Tell you what we can have a gentlemans wager on it? If SA crash and burn I'll pay for dinner, if they progress you pay??
RevidgeBlue Posted January 15, 2010 Posted January 15, 2010 (edited) Benni seems to be trying to ease himself out of the door here, a "back spasm" in the warm up on Monday night and a ludicrous swipe at the Villa player last night that could quite easily have earned him a red card. I would even go so far as to say he looks like he is trying to persuade Sam to offload him for peanuts. (Perhaps he wanted to go and watch the Africa Nations Cup as well with Diouf?) Unfortunately I'm not sure he's going the right way about it. Probably more likely to have the opposite effect. A few goals would be more likely to endear him to potential suitors. Edited January 15, 2010 by RevidgeBlue
CaliRoverNYC Posted January 17, 2010 Posted January 17, 2010 Set up both goals today, I still believe if given regular opportunities to see the pitch he can be good for us. Sell Roberts, keep Benni. 1
S15 Posted January 17, 2010 Posted January 17, 2010 If this bloke got in shape he could easily be as effective to the team in a similar way that Okocha (sp) was for Allardyce as Bolton. Whilst he's not in shape I still believe he is a drain on resources.
BuckyRover Posted January 17, 2010 Posted January 17, 2010 It doesn't matter that he is out of shape. The best players are often enigmas and Benni is just that. He can create out of nothing, having a few extra pounds isn't going to affect that.
S15 Posted January 17, 2010 Posted January 17, 2010 It doesn't matter that he is out of shape. The best players are often enigmas and Benni is just that. He can create out of nothing, having a few extra pounds isn't going to affect that. Yes it is, hence two years ago he was a much better player and scored 24 goals.
RevidgeBlue Posted January 17, 2010 Posted January 17, 2010 Yes it is, hence two years ago he was a much better player and scored 24 goals. It was three years ago really.
MeanGreenMachine Posted January 17, 2010 Posted January 17, 2010 Benni played as a poacher in his first season, hence him being in more goal scoring positions. Since he has been played 'in the hole' as a more creative link up player. But no matter how well he plays or what he does people will ignore his quality cos he is carrying a few extra pounds.
Blueheart Posted January 17, 2010 Posted January 17, 2010 The reality after todays game is that we cannot let Benni McCarthy leave the club...he is the only creative we have at the moment. His understanding with Holliet looks very promising. Benni has got to stay .
DeadlyDirk Posted January 17, 2010 Posted January 17, 2010 Great stuff from him today, we give Dunny a little more leeway for his fitness problems so maybe Benni should get a little benefit of the doubt. I said before that Sam should stop this nonsense of half punishing him for not meeting fitness targets because it's only punishing the rest of the team. He either needs to play him and swallow his pride or show some proper discipline and move him on and declare him not available for selection in the meantime. (Not what I would do but sitting in the middle helps nobody) The best example I can think of for a player that was lazy without the ball and struggled for match sharpness was Le Tiss and he wasn't such a bad player was he, ask Tim Flowers.
BuckyRover Posted January 17, 2010 Posted January 17, 2010 The argument that he was better three years ago is irrelevant (unless you have a time machine), the argument is whether he is good enough too play for us. Which he definitely is.
S15 Posted January 17, 2010 Posted January 17, 2010 The argument that he was better three years ago is irrelevant (unless you have a time machine), the argument is whether he is good enough too play for us. Which he definitely is. I disagree, 75% of the time his performances make him a liability. One good performance doesn't change the last 6 months.
John Posted January 17, 2010 Posted January 17, 2010 (edited) For now, I would keep him. Whislt he can be inconsistent, he still has flair/class/quality, therefore he can be a match winner for us, and to replace that would cost a bit of cash. Edited January 17, 2010 by John
RevidgeBlue Posted January 17, 2010 Posted January 17, 2010 Imo if anyone makes an offer for him he'll be gone. Every time Sam is on SSN he seems to make a point of inviting offers by stressing we've not had any offers for him yet.
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