[Archived] Benni Mccarthy - Gone

[CAPT KAYOS]

I can't believe what this guy is copping on this board "absolute disgrace" what the hell do you guys want in a striker?

You expect him to track back and run 6 miles in a game, be strong in the air, skillful with the ball at his feet, setup goals, score them, take penalties, take on players, lightning speed and all with a constant smile on his face waving to the fans screaming his constant appreciation for them showing up.

He scores goals, and lots of them, build a friggin midfield that can do everything else and let him get on with his job.

Don't think anybody has mentioned anything about them wanting him to track back or run 6 miles , but I think they would like him to look, like he is at least interested by closing players downa and challenging for headers.

News of the World commented upon him at Tevez at the weekend about how Tevez tried to get involved and create things and referred back to Gary Lineker running six miles during matches - what they said about McCarthy was he was lucky if he ran 2 miles and his performance bordered on being absolutely lazy.

So not just some people on here - he has the talent which is why people probably get angry and for the last two months his performance have bordered on on what the NOTW described

[M-K]

News of the World commented upon him at Tevez at the weekend about how Tevez tried to get involved and create things and referred back to Gary Lineker running six miles during matches - what they said about McCarthy was he was lucky if he ran 2 miles and his performance bordered on being absolutely lazy.

Tevez has scored two goals all season and is nice and busy taking West Ham down.

How about we combine all the topics slagging off the Rovers players we're supposed to be supporting and have a big poll to see exactly which one of them we hate / resent the most?

[CAPT KAYOS]

Tevez has scored two goals all season and is nice and busy taking West Ham down.

How about we combine all the topics slagging off the Rovers players we're supposed to be supporting and have a big poll to see exactly which one of them we hate / resent the most?

They where comparing the two forwards to see what they did in the game - which as we all know McCarthy did bugger all (as mentioned on another thread neither did DERBS but at least he tried) and has done for the last two months IMO.

It would appear some are closing their eyes - yes he has scored goals and some cracking ones, but don't be blind to his poor performances which are not one offs - as mentioned he has the talent and the aptitude and should be able to show it on a more consistent basis which is what he hasn't and that is what is so annoying.

I think its what is called as a kick up they arse (remember the Arse (sorry) game and goal)?

[Manchester Blue]

We had a striker in Dickov who ran all day long for you, anyone really want to go back to that? It's often a fact that some of the most skilfull strikers can also be quite lazy at times, Anelka, Yorke even Henry has been criticised. You either accept them for the qualities they have or you don't but very rarely do you change them.

When Benni gets good service he is outstanding, when he doesn't he doesn't do much. We had striker in Bellamy who could create plenty but was a poor finisher and now we have one who doesn't create a lot but is a fantastic finisher. Anyone want one who does both? Stump up the £30m for Drogba.

[b12_simon]

We had a striker in Dickov who ran all day long for you, anyone really want to go back to that? It's often a fact that some of the most skilfull strikers can also be quite lazy at times, Anelka, Yorke even Henry has been criticised. You either accept them for the qualities they have or you don't but very rarely do you change them.

When Benni gets good service he is outstanding, when he doesn't he doesn't do much. We had striker in Bellamy who could create plenty but was a poor finisher and now we have one who doesn't create a lot but is a fantastic finisher. Anyone want one who does both? Stump up the £30m for Drogba.

Agree with every word of that.

We can have Dickov-like graft or Benni-like class. If a striker offers both, we can't afford him.

[T4E]

We had a striker in Dickov who ran all day long for you, anyone really want to go back to that? It's often a fact that some of the most skilfull strikers can also be quite lazy at times, Anelka, Yorke even Henry has been criticised. You either accept them for the qualities they have or you don't but very rarely do you change them.

When Benni gets good service he is outstanding, when he doesn't he doesn't do much. We had striker in Bellamy who could create plenty but was a poor finisher and now we have one who doesn't create a lot but is a fantastic finisher. Anyone want one who does both? Stump up the £30m for Drogba.

Spot-bollock-on Chris.

As much as I liked Dickov, he's not on the same planet as Benni. We should be doing handstands at having a player like him.

[Billy Castell]

Benni does seem to be a more interested version of Dwight Yorke when the latter was here. Maybe a new striker or a midfielder who can provide more service will galvanise him next season.

[Fife Rover]

We had a striker in Dickov who ran all day long for you, anyone really want to go back to that? It's often a fact that some of the most skilfull strikers can also be quite lazy at times, Anelka, Yorke even Henry has been criticised. You either accept them for the qualities they have or you don't but very rarely do you change them.

When Benni gets good service he is outstanding, when he doesn't he doesn't do much. We had striker in Bellamy who could create plenty but was a poor finisher and now we have one who doesn't create a lot but is a fantastic finisher. Anyone want one who does both? Stump up the £30m for Drogba.

Better idea. Why don't we just stump up the necessary, and get Bellers back this summer to play along with Benni next season. Bellers to do the creating and Benni to do the finishing. Fantastic! And they could also swap roles as it suited and Rovers would have one of the most potent strike forces in the Prem.

Oh, and incidentally I seem to remember something about Benni being out of favour at Porto for being a lazy player, and the manager after Mourinho refusing to pick him. Hence Benni's fall-out with Porto. If I was MH I would tell Benni that if he wants to play in the semi against Chelski (and be able to impress Morinho) he had better start right now trying to impress me!! and keep on doing it or he is outski!!

Edited March 21, 2007 by Fife Rover

[neekoy]

Better idea. Why don't we just stump up the necessary, and get Bellers back this summer to play along with Benni next season. Bellers to do the creating and Benni to do the finishing. Fantastic! And they could also swap roles as it suited and Rovers would have one of the most potent strike forces in the Prem.

What makes anyone think that Bellamy would come back here for starters? Sure he respects Mark Hughes but the only way he is leaving Liverpool is by being kicked screaming out the door and unless the rumours are correct about Eto I can't see that happening.

We simply cannot 'stump' the necessary to buy the player that everyone is bitching about or wants Benni to somehow be, even though he has NEVER been that player.

The best we can hope for is a 5 to 8 million buy that Sparky believes can suit the requirements for the squad.

[joey_big_nose]

Better idea. Why don't we just stump up the necessary, and get Bellers back this summer to play along with Benni next season. Bellers to do the creating and Benni to do the finishing. Fantastic! And they could also swap roles as it suited and Rovers would have one of the most potent strike forces in the Prem.

Bellamy has recently been Liverpool's best striker. THey would be insane to let him go.

The only way we would get him is if he has another barny!

I do have a lot of faith in Sparky to turn up another gem though over the summer. His transfer record has to be one of the best since the Premiership began. We've got McCarthy (2.5m), Savage (3.3m), Roberts (3m) and Ooijer (2m), Nelsen (Free), Warnock (1.5m), Samba (400k), Zurab (500k), Bentley (1m), Henchoz (free), Dunn (1m), Mokoena (500k), Nonda (free), bought and sold Kuqi (-2.5) and Bellamy (-2.5), Sold Neill (-2m), sold Ferguson (-3.5m) all for a grand total of 5.2m net!

That any way you look at it is an outstanding couple of years of business. Perhaps we paid over the odds for Savage, Ooijer and Roberts but nothing really that bad compared to other teams in the Prem.

The board should back Hughes with big money in the summer with the new TV deal too. Looking forward to see how he spends that cash.

And really (if we manage to hold onto everyone and presuming Reid, Sav and Ooijer make full recoveries) it is hard to see where we need to strengthen save a striker. We have good players in every position, a bench that will hold a lot of quality, and promising talents like Brown, Peter, Derbyshire and Gallagher.

Edited March 21, 2007 by joey_big_nose

[USABlue]

We had a striker in Dickov who ran all day long for you, anyone really want to go back to that?

We are never happy us lot, I remember defending Dickov when he was here due to his work rate. However the major concensus of opinion back then was that we did not care if the guy did nowt but stick the ball in the net. Funny how it goes isn't it. I too was surprised to see Benni getting stuck in on the defensive end but he along with several other failed to do much of anything worth while. Hope we can consign that game to the bad day at the office bin.

[Exiled_Rover]

Bellamy has recently been Liverpool's best striker. THey would be insane to let him go.

The only way we would get him is if he has another barny!

I do have a lot of faith in Sparky to turn up another gem though over the summer. His transfer record has to be one of the best since the Premiership began. We've got McCarthy (2.5m), Savage (3.3m), Roberts (3m) and Ooijer (2m), Nelsen (Free), Warnock (1.5m), Samba (400k), Zurab (500k), Bentley (1m), Henchoz (free), Dunn (1m), Mokoena (500k), Nonda (free), bought and sold Kuqi (-2.5) and Bellamy (-2.5), Sold Neill (-2m), sold Ferguson (-3.5m) all for a grand total of 5.2m net!

That any way you look at it is an outstanding couple of years of business. Perhaps we paid over the odds for Savage, Ooijer and Roberts but nothing really that bad compared to other teams in the Prem.

The board should back Hughes with big money in the summer with the new TV deal too. Looking forward to see how he spends that cash.

And really (if we manage to hold onto everyone and presuming Reid, Sav and Ooijer make full recoveries) it is hard to see where we need to strengthen save a striker. We have good players in every position, a bench that will hold a lot of quality, and promising talents like Brown, Peter, Derbyshire and Gallagher.

Pretty sure Bentley and Dunn were both had for less than £1m each. I agree though, he's done well in the transfer market.

[benhben]

If we had a pacey hard working striker to complement benni we could be in for an exciting season. I cant see McCarthy and Nonda/Roberts as a partnership however.

[John]

When they were talking about Bentley prior to the Man City match on Sky, Savage said 'not bad for £500k'.

[thenodrog]

It would appear some are closing their eyes - yes he has scored goals and some cracking ones, but don't be blind to his poor performances which are not one offs - as mentioned he has the talent and the aptitude and should be able to show it on a more consistent basis which is what he hasn't and that is what is so annoying.

I think its what is called as a kick up they arse (remember the Arse (sorry) game and goal)?

So many seem to rem Bellamy as the second coming but remember we went for McArthy first! Also lets have less misty eyed nostalgia gumming up our memory...... I can well rem Bellamy having a quiet game or more too ...... when he was not injured that is!

But Hughes did get Bellamy and he scored plenty before he beggered off forcing Hughes to get Benni ..... and he's scored even more! If Benni goes then Hughes will just have to find another replacement.

If history repeats itself then maybe the by now far cheaper Mido will benefit from a spell at Ewood..... and hopefully next to Benni rather than in place of him.

Just think in a different era we could easily have had all 3 vying to be top gun and that would have been something!

Edited March 21, 2007 by thenodrog

[Florida Rover]

Reading Carlos Alberto Parreira's response"Benni will be back soon,I am certain of that..."is not what I would like to be reading about a retired international.Given his performances for us over the balance of the year , I suppose it is not too shocking.Reckon the Axe is doing some "persuading" as well?

HERE IS THE ARTICLE

[Eddie]

As long as he doesn't play every international it isn't too worrying. It doesn't seem like he would based on that article and it is a shame that a country like South Africa should be missing their best player.

[1864roverite]

Whilst we are on the topic of Benni

next season is the African Nations Cp for 6 weeks so should Benni be called back into the fold we will lose him for at least 4 weeks maybe 8 in total, we will lose the Axe as well as Samba and if Nonda is still with us him as well.

That would not help our cause one little bit

[Guest shoppybrfc]

Arent Samba and Nondas team really poor though and probably wont even qualify for the Africans nations?

[Perth_Rover]

Arent Samba and Nondas team really poor though and probably wont even qualify for the Africans nations?

You sooo just made them qualify with that statement

[neekoy]

Arent Samba and Nondas team really poor though and probably wont even qualify for the Africans nations?

They made the quarter finals last time round and they are leading their group at the moment

Really poor

[Guest shoppybrfc]

Sorry Mr.Congo

[Martin]

Benni can be as lazy as he likes providing he scores 20 goals a season. You do not need or want 2 work horses for strikers. Let Derbyshire or Roberts do the running.

Imagine Ward and Dickov upfront - they might run 2457 miles a game between them but they wouldn't score 20 goals all season - between them!

Goals mean points and points means money.

Edited March 27, 2007 by Martin

[BuckyRover]

Benni can be as lazy as he likes providing he scores 20 goals a season. You do not need or want 2 work horses for strikers. Let Derbyshire or Roberts do the running.

Imagine Ward and Dickov upfront - they might run 2457 miles a game between them but they wouldn't score 20 goals all season - between them!

Goals mean points and points means money.

Exactly.

It's his style, he scores, don't moan about it. The reason people want him to run around like crazy is because they think that means he cares.

He doesn't care, he is paid to score goals and thats what he does.

[Florida Rover]

Sorry Mr.Congo

That's DR Congo to you!