mrsjansen Posted June 10, 2007 Posted June 10, 2007 I cant believe some of the cyniscm on here. I think the point of the programme wasnt any for of self publicity but to try to point out how highly over paid our footballers actually our, and how it souldnt have hurt them to have dug into their pockets to pay a days wages. What some nurses earn in a year, fottballers most footballers earn in a week. Nurses safe lives. Footballers do at least 10 hours work a week. I hope some of you on here never need a nurse, then come on and complain about the lack of nurses, or marvel about what a wondeful job they did and need to be paid more.
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Kai Posted June 10, 2007 Posted June 10, 2007 I saw the program too the other day. Was kind of looking forward to it as I knew that we didn't fare so badly out of it. However, although I had an inkling that footballers aren't the sharpest tools in the box (generally), I was kind of shocked with the bahaviour in one of the clips where the lady goes to give a talk, I think to Reading? Who was the complete plonker acting like a two year old doing everything he could to be an arse? He's a grown man for God's sake! Here the lady was, trying to give a talk on something for a good cause and here was this idiot pulling up his shorts and flashing his arsecheeks.. I just thought that kind of behaviour belonged nurseries! Although we didn't see much on Blackburn Rovers, it was funny when she asked Mark Hughes who he was I also thought it was quite funny when they did a little segment on Defoe - complete with agent just in case he said/did something stupid! Also, the Glenn Roeder clip showed that he really is as deluded as his match interviews suggest! (That 'inspirational' memo he gave to the lady was an email clip that Roeder received and he probably gave it to her to try fulfil his 'you must send this to 5 different people and you'll get a good time with lady luck tonight' quota!)
bob fleming Posted June 11, 2007 Posted June 11, 2007 I was kind of shocked with the bahaviour in one of the clips where the lady goes to give a talk, I think to Reading? Who was the complete plonker acting like a two year old doing everything he could to be an arse? He's a grown man for God's sake! Here the lady was, trying to give a talk on something for a good cause and here was this idiot pulling up his shorts and flashing his arsecheeks.. That was, of course, ex burnley player Glenn Little. He was like that player in the film Mike Bassett: England Manager.
Roaming Rover Posted June 11, 2007 Posted June 11, 2007 The problem with that program was that the woman assumed Footballers spent all the money on themselves. How do we know if some of the footballer not agreeing to this already gave a large percentage to other charities - we don't, we just assume they don't because they are footballers who think of nobody but themselves. As for donating money to people who already start on £20,000+ a year. People are starving in this country and living on the streets. People and families are struggling to cope but financially and emotionally when a loved one is diagnosed with a terminal illness, due to lack of support and people are living on the streets, yet the best thing a footballer can do with a days wage is donate it to nurses. Granted some do a fantastic job but just as many deserve the sack as they are just lazy and uncaring and aren't even deserving of the wage they do get.
ihateburnley Posted June 11, 2007 Posted June 11, 2007 The problem with that program was that the woman assumed Footballers spent all the money on themselves. How do we know if some of the footballer not agreeing to this already gave a large percentage to other charities - we don't, we just assume they don't because they are footballers who think of nobody but themselves. As for donating money to people who already start on £20,000+ a year. People are starving in this country and living on the streets. People and families are struggling to cope but financially and emotionally when a loved one is diagnosed with a terminal illness, due to lack of support and people are living on the streets, yet the best thing a footballer can do with a days wage is donate it to nurses. Granted some do a fantastic job but just as many deserve the sack as they are just lazy and uncaring and aren't even deserving of the wage they do get. Spot on.
tcj_jones Posted June 11, 2007 Posted June 11, 2007 That Gaurdian article linked on the opposite page is a poor piece of journalism. I'm sure a lot of footballers are uncaring, selfish, overpaid idiots that don't give a crap about anybody but themselves and their money, but to judge their contribution to charitable causes on the basis of this single campaign is pretty naive. From this campaign, I was actually led to believe that nurses were, in terms of pay, worse off than they actually are, but reading the comments on this board has revealed a lot to me. I will forever be grateful to some of the nurses that have dealt with me in my lifetime and feel that they deserve to be paid far more than any footballer, but that just isn't realistic, unfortunately. Coming out and demanding money like this makes it sound as though nurses are living in poverty!
colin Posted June 12, 2007 Posted June 12, 2007 You seem somewhat confused Colin. You state that a decent NHS must be paid for yet you personally appear unwilling to tip up anything toward it. Surely you cannot be happy for you and your family to be subsidised through life by somebody else can you? It's neither a fair nor honest way to live is it? Look Theno, I'm really sorry to have to do this again, but you have put words into my mouth. You really should stop doing this just to score points off me on this message board. I sometimes feel that if I posted that the sun rises in the east & sets in the west (in the northern hemisphere) you would disagree with me. (1) I am not confused. (2) How can you you deduced "I am personally unwilling to "tip up" " anything towards it is beyond me. What have you "tipped up?" (3) "Surely you cannot be happy for you and your family to be subsidised through life by somebody else" Where one earth did I say that? What do you mean by that? Please explain. That campaign to take a day's wages off footballers is cheap and shoddy and cretinous. If this country wants to pay it's nurses a living wage then it will do so. If it so undervalues them so that someone has to go around begging footballers to donate a day's pay just to keep them in food then so be it. It just stinks. It's just an indication of the stupidity of this country which possibly thinks that taking a days' wages off MGP & his colleagues will solve anything. Frankly it's moronic. If Mark Hughes had any brain about him he would have said to that woman "Look, everyone in this room is earning a shed load-of money and quite frankly all of us can afford to pay a few quid more in tax to fund the NHS. Go and tell Gordon Brown to raise taxes for the super rich."
Tris Posted June 12, 2007 Posted June 12, 2007 If Mark Hughes had any brain about him he would have said to that woman "Look, everyone in this room is earning a shed load-of money and quite frankly all of us can afford to pay a few quid more in tax to fund the NHS. Go and tell Gordon Brown to raise taxes for the super rich." Gordon Brown has done nothing other than raise taxes for the last 10 years - as well as diverting lottery cash away from good causes and selling off the gold reserves on the cheap ... and the whole bloody lot has been wasted on layer upon layer of needless officialdom, general NHS mismanagement and Brown's choice of trough swilling private sector consultants to hoover up any cash that's left trying to sort out the mess. This sickening waste of 12 billion quid alone would have paid 60,000 nurses for 10 years. Gordon Brown is the last person to give any more money to waste - they're far better off trying to sort themselves out.
mjs Posted June 12, 2007 Posted June 12, 2007 The whole concept of ths really pees me off. What makes nurses such a special case? I am sure the majority of them chose to go down their career path becasue it is what they wanted to do, at the same time knowing the issues regarding it being supposedly poorly paid. There are thousands of other people in relatively 'low paid' jobs providing a necessary, if not personally rewarding, service. Are binmen and street cleaners going to launch a campaign next? What about toilet attendants?
Jan Posted June 12, 2007 Posted June 12, 2007 . Are binmen and street cleaners going to launch a campaign next? What about toilet attendants? Exactly how much study does it take to be a binman, street cleaner and toilet attendant? For the study they put in they're not well paid.
Roaming Rover Posted June 12, 2007 Posted June 12, 2007 Exactly how much study does it take to be a binman, With all the different boxes, bins and bags they have to deal with, probably a hell of a lot
blue phil Posted June 12, 2007 Posted June 12, 2007 Go and tell Gordon Brown to raise taxes for the super rich." At least then we'll have all the super rich footballers sod off abroad and they won't have to put up with whinging nurses begging off them .....
mjs Posted June 12, 2007 Posted June 12, 2007 Exactly how much study does it take to be a binman, street cleaner and toilet attendant? For the study they put in they're not well paid. Having put in the time to do qualifications is not the only measure of someone's value, and it certainly doesn't make nurses a special case.
Billy Castell Posted June 13, 2007 Posted June 13, 2007 Saw that Power to the People where the chap on the show got 100 people affected by MRSA to turn up at various hospitals unannounced to clean the wards. The amount of dirt they picked up was disgusting. I don't know if specialist cleaners or nurses are charged with keep the wards clean, but many hospitals were filthy, and the alcohol soap dispensers were often empty. So I don't give a crap about doctors and nurses if they can't keep a hospital clean.
roversmum Posted June 13, 2007 Posted June 13, 2007 A nurse I know has a dog that regularly sleeps on her uniform when she leaves it on a chair. I have heard that nurses wearing uniforms to work etc are not a health risk - how can that be so?
ABBEY Posted June 13, 2007 Posted June 13, 2007 OH man there was a hot gal in a nurses uniform at the crue last night ..pink fishies as well omg she could have done my throbbing pulse any time she liked hahaha
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