[Archived] Rovers Sold ??

[Ste B]

I dont like it

Doesnt sound good

In relation to The address mentioned above people say it looks like woodland but it looks like a golf course to me , but what im getting at maybe all the land is his .

I know im clutching at straws

This is google Earth that you are taking this from.

Until last month, it still showed a picture of my house in Ossy that had a car that I havent had for 6 years.

From that pic, looks like theres a lot of development work going on.

[revolutionrock!]

As i understand it isnt the US one alot more upto date than ours?

[Ste B]

As i understand it isnt the US one alot more upto date than ours?

Thats correct for major cities, but many of these backwaters can be well behind.

Even if this is only 2 years old, in that time they could have built a pretty damned good house.

I'm still sceptical, but taking one picture from the internet into account doesnt prove it the other way.

Quite a few expensive places there IF THIS IS ANYTHING TO GO BY

[revolutionrock!]

Image result from Google for Ringoes, NJ 08551

Now it seems that the golf course is called The Ridge, Maybe Dan Williams idea to persuade clients to buy shares ETC

Another House

Now thats a very different house to the one posted above, very weird

[Craigman]

I was under the impression that Daniel Williams was not only using his own resources to buy Blackburn but had other backers who would help finance the deal.

[Wiggy]

I was under the impression that Daniel Williams was not only using his own resources to buy Blackburn but had other backers who would help finance the deal.

Well have you seen his CV? He used to be a trader at Barings Bank! Maybe he learnt his investment skills from Nick Leeson.

[Baz]

From the research I have done - all internet based albeit - I am concerned about Daniel Williams - I could be wrong on this but I don't want him and his "backers" anywhere near the club until a few questions are answered.

Who are you? - for someone of 30 years old you seem to have done a awful lot yet each of the companies you have worked for are remarkably low-key on the internet

The billion dollar contract in Gabon - are you sure? I have seen conflicting evidence of the value of this deal - and the deal also involves other companies too? Why also do you conflictingly address to yourself as President or CEO depending on where you are? Surely a man of your education knows the difference?

What do you want from Rovers? - if your US based and doing well and all your companies are being run from there - why should you want to invest in something completely out of your sphere of expertise?

Who are your backers? As someone who is putting little of his own cash into the deal we should know the intentions of the consortium - even if they aren't named at this point.

I hope - and believe that Rovers will and should err on the side of caution with this guy - I just don't trust him

[Glenn]

Just to point out, anyone can register any .com domain with any contact details, they are verified in no way shape or form. So all domain records that keep getting posted are potenialy bogus.

[RevidgeBlue]

Image result from Google for Ringoes, NJ 08551

Now it seems that the golf course is called The Ridge, Maybe Dan Williams idea to persuade clients to buy shares ETC

Another House

Now thats a very different house to the one posted above, very weird

Is the first one a genuine photograph? it looks suspiciously like a mock up to me.

EDIT: Having looked at the sale details for the second property from the same zip code (whether it's 39A Gulick Road or PO Box 259 Gulick Road or Diamond Creek Farm 39 Gulick Road I suspect Elite Graduate jobs.com originated from the lounge of said property and Princeton global.com (with contracts supposedly worth north of a billion dollars) from the kitchen!.

I now mentally have this down as definite hoax unless any evidence is presented to the contrary.

[dave birch]

Rev, that looks pretty kosher to me.

I base my feelings on a Golf /Country Club my daughter worked at in New York a few years back. It looks like the club house, and some of the more elite clubs have guest houses, all made from the local stone.

[Paul]

Although deeply unhappy at the current wave of PL takeovers and especially the interest in Rovers if I were Dan Williams I'd be hopping up and down right now. Is this really fair and legitimate? Yes the information is apparently in the public domain, I say apparently because there is little to back up what is being posted. Personally I've never heard of "zoom info," it looks like a bunch of spotty teenagers have put together a search web site to me. Just the look and feel makes me highly dubious. Having searched it using information I know is correct, I'd be sceptical of the veracity of any search on Dan Williams or any other individual. Zoom info is simply trawling the web and pulling links together, I don't understand how this is done, but I'd be doubtful of results it produces.

The only real source of accurate information of the type people want would be the US equivalent of Companies House. So if someone has a link there and can get genuine information this would be of real interest.

[Glenn]

Exactly my point Paul, whilst the info people are bringing up is accuarte given their initial information, if that initial info is wrong or faked (which I'm confident it is) then all they are doing is muddying the waters.

GIS tools like Google maps etc are great resources, but if you're looking up a wrong address then you're just going to be looking at pictures of a club house on a random golf course

[revolutionrock!]

In the Daily Mails Premiership Prewiev this morn it states we have to consortia looking at us, doesnt mention Williams but says billionaire Miami dolphins owner Wayne Hezuenga(SP) is involved

[Mike Graham]

In the Daily Mails Premiership Prewiev this morn it states we have to consortia looking at us, doesnt mention Williams but says billionaire Miami dolphins owner Wayne Hezuenga(SP) is involved

Thst's how you spell Wayne Hemmingway in spanish.

[revolutionrock!]

Thst's how you spell Wayne Hemmingway in spanish.

Correct spelling=

Huizenga

P.S you spelt that's wrong :lol:

[thenodrog]

Is the first one a genuine photograph? it looks suspiciously like a mock up to me.

What a horrible, ugly pile that is. We all know the septics have no taste but it appears to me that they must have few planning laws either.

[RevidgeBlue]

Although deeply unhappy at the current wave of PL takeovers and especially the interest in Rovers if I were Dan Williams I'd be hopping up and down right now. Is this really fair and legitimate? Yes the information is apparently in the public domain, I say apparently because there is little to back up what is being posted. Personally I've never heard of "zoom info," it looks like a bunch of spotty teenagers have put together a search web site to me. Just the look and feel makes me highly dubious. Having searched it using information I know is correct, I'd be sceptical of the veracity of any search on Dan Williams or any other individual. Zoom info is simply trawling the web and pulling links together, I don't understand how this is done, but I'd be doubtful of results it produces.

The only real source of accurate information of the type people want would be the US equivalent of Companies House. So if someone has a link there and can get genuine information this would be of real interest.

Fair enough Paul, but the only information available from Dan Williams own websites suggest that these two supposedly major concerns elite graduatejobs.com and princetonglobal operate from the same address 39 Gulick Rd etc.

Not completely out of the question, it could be an office complex for example, but the searches done above suggest that the area in question is either undeveloped woodland (or is possibly now developed into a residential complex) bounded on either side by a golf course. Either way it's hard to see how it could be be a commercial premises of any sort.

I don't see what Dan Williams would have to be "hopping mad" about at all. If the only publicly available information on him doesn't stack up, that's not our problem, it's his and it's down to him to put things into a position whereby the informtion does stack up.

I raised the American Companies House point earlier and was hoping one of our American friends might have been able to shed further light in that respect. However even then, hypothetically if it were to be shown that the companies in question either don't exist or have no net real worth, I suppose it could be argued that he isn't the man putting up the money anyway - it's his backers. It would surely be revealing as to credibility though.

Who's going to be the first to take the bull by the horns and ring the numbers quoted for elite graduate jobs and princeton global?

[Ronin]

In the Daily Mails Premiership Prewiev this morn it states we have to consortia looking at us, doesnt mention Williams but says billionaire Miami dolphins owner Wayne Hezuenga(SP) is involved

He denied any interest before when his name was linked. Could be that the Mail are rehashing an old link?

[Paul]

I don't see what Dan Williams would have to be "hopping mad" about at all. If the only publicly available information on him doesn't stack up, that's not our problem, it's his and it's down to him to put things into a position whereby the informtion does stack up.

To take the second point first. I agree entirely and this is an example of why the suggested takeover bothers. Presuming Williams is a serious business person as has been suggested I would have thought he'd have taken steps to correct the information by now. Like you I've looked at the websites, when the links / information first started appearing on the web and the LET, and I'm not convinced. In an era when image is so important and for many the web is the first resource to leave th sites as they are must raise a question.

As for being "hopping mad" I'm assuming he is a serious individual in his plans for Rovers and other business interests. Therefore I feel he would be unhappy to read people making judgements, perhaps ill-conceived, based on the only information which appears to be available. But as you rightly say this is his problem and not ours. Equally if some one posted pictures of my home and other personal / business information on here I'd be jumping, but then my home details and business details are too very seperate enterties and if Williams runs his companies from home it's fair game.

[ihateburnley]

How did this conversation get onto what stone that building is made out of, and the pros and cons of GoogleEarth?

I'm officially lost.

[revolutionrock!]

He denied any interest before when his name was linked. Could be that the Mail are rehashing an old link?

Probalby, but its interesting how they mention a link which has been denied and that they dont mention the link which has been confirmed

[Jan]

To take the second point first. I agree entirely and this is an example of why the suggested takeover bothers. Presuming Williams is a serious business person as has been suggested I would have thought he'd have taken steps to correct the information by now. Like you I've looked at the websites, when the links / information first started appearing on the web and the LET, and I'm not convinced. In an era when image is so important and for many the web is the first resource to leave th sites as they are must raise a question.

As for being "hopping mad" I'm assuming he is a serious individual in his plans for Rovers and other business interests. Therefore I feel he would be unhappy to read people making judgements, perhaps ill-conceived, based on the only information which appears to be available. But as you rightly say this is his problem and not ours. Equally if some one posted pictures of my home and other personal / business information on here I'd be jumping, but then my home details and business details are too very seperate enterties and if Williams runs his companies from home it's fair game.

Firstly- There is no US equivalent of Companies House. Most states have their own rules, and most companies register in Delaware because it has no filing requirements and therefore no publicly available information.

Secondly- It is notoriously difficult to regain ownership of domain names- usually involving a court case- which takes time and effort. Given that this isn't a celebrity who sits on their backside filing their nails all day- it's probably not at the TOP of his list of priorities.

[broadsword]

Has the club actually confirmed it is in talks?

This has been going on so long now I can't remember. I do recall John Williams saying that they'd been preliminary discussions, but I don't think there's been anything since then, has there?

[Paul]

Firstly- There is no US equivalent of Companies House. Most states have their own rules, and most companies register in Delaware because it has no filing requirements and therefore no publicly available information.

Interesting, didn't know this.

Secondly- It is notoriously difficult to regain ownership of domain names- usually involving a court case- which takes time and effort. Given that this isn't a celebrity who sits on their backside filing their nails all day- it's probably not at the TOP of his list of priorities.

I agree it's very difficult to regain ownership of domain names but I would think it should be a priority, especially as the site(s) haven't been updated for around 18 months suggesting there has been plenty of time to chase it up. It's a question of image, Rovers fans have no information on the possible takeover other than rumour and conjecture. It doesn't benefit anyone to have unreliable information floating around which colours the overall imnpression gained by fans.

[modes98]

Has the club actually confirmed it is in talks?

I seem to recall there was a club statement saying that no further comment would be made until the Due Diligence process had began.