[Archived] Rovers Sold ??

[Guided Missile]

As I work in IT and Web Design, I know it is easy to mask an IP and it's very easy to find an anonymous email sender which allows you send out emails claiming to be from whatever address you want. Plenty out there.

It's easy to mask an IP address, but that's not what you claimed. Our admins traced the email from HMR to an IP address which was shared with the company Williams owns, Princeton Global Housing.

Don't try and claim to be an expert, because you are obviously not...

[Guided Missile]

I had moved on. The local paper brought the subject up today.

I agree with you that if he can't do it then he's history.

So, when are you going to give him a good kicking, then, nicko? Personally my money would be on ginger. Apparently he was in the SAS...

[den]

One comment chaps. It's policy on this site not to name people who don't want to be named. Please adhere to that.

[EwoodGlory]

It's easy to mask an IP address, but that's not what you claimed

Thats exactly what I claimed which is what you have just confirmed is right. I didn't claim to be an expert.

If I had an email from them I could trace it back by using the details in the email header and finding who's IP address it is. I don't, so I can't. I still believe it can be made to look like something else anyway.

I read all of the takeover threads on your forum which took hours and hours, nothing was ever proved to me. Other members of the forum were claiming they had met with other potential buyers, it all seemed like a load of rubbish to me.

As I say I think it was someone closer to home. I will not mention any names. 1. beacuse I don't want to be banned from here and 2. It could be a number of disgruntled people.

[nicko]

One comment chaps. It's policy on this site not to name people who don't want to be named. Please adhere to that.

So it's OK for a Lawrence Llewellyn-Bowen look-alike to go around slaughtering people and running down your fans with little sexual Prep School lines....?

[Guided Missile]

Thats exactly what I claimed which is what you have just confirmed is right.

You posted that it was easy to mask an IP, to make it appear to be someone elses IP, suggesting that it was easy for anyone to send an email from Williams IP address. That is a crock. As you are so clever, perhaps you'll explain how this "imposter" got hold of Williams US mobile phone, then.....

[Roost]

So it's OK for a Lawrence Llewellyn-Bowen look-alike to go around slaughtering people and running down your fans with little sexual Prep School lines....?

Is that Mark lawrenson?

One Love - BRFC

[nicko]

Is that Mark lawrenson?

One Love - BRFC

No, the foppish chap from the interior designs programmes...

It's a shame GM stays anonymous. He is SO clever after all.

[Roost]

No, the foppish chap from the interior designs programmes...

It's a shame GM stays anonymous. He is SO clever after all.

Erm, I meant that I thought Mark Lawrenson sounded like LLB (long hair, slagging off Rovers etc.......Oh, never mind!)

Still One Love - BRFC

[Guided Missile]

So it's OK for a Lawrence Llewellyn-Bowen look-alike to go around slaughtering people and running down your fans with little sexual Prep School lines....?

nicko, I only know who you are, because you publicized the fact that you are Alan Nixon, the ex-hack who came on here to have his ego rubbed. As you correctly asserted, I slaughtered you for posting stories in support of a person, who, in my opinion, is a total charletan. In your opinion, he was totally on the level and you were going to give him a good kicking if you were proved wrong.

I can't remember running Rovers fans down. My recollection of the posts was that they were running me down. What is far more worrying to me is that you are more capable of Googling my background, than someone who would have a far greater impact on Rovers than me, have a fixation with Lawrence Llewellyn-Bowen and see some sexual content in my posts.

I preferred you when you were Dan Williams bitch, to be honest...

[EwoodGlory]

suggesting that it was easy for anyone to send an email from Williams IP address. That is a crock

People are probably sick of us filling the forum with this rubbish.

Al I meant was that you can send an anonymous email from any address you want and you can make the IP address look like what ever you want. This can be done.

If someone sends an email to the person then they reply to it, obviously this is their real address as they have recevied it. I have no idea or prove that someone from the saints forum has directly spoke to him.

I will carry on following what is in the press and hopefully in time we will here an official statement from either the takeover party or the club, which will then confirm if there is a deal for that.

I must admit if what was posted on your forum is true or not it was a cracking read and kept me amused during the close season for about 6-7 hours

As padihampedro posted above One Love - BRFC

[Ricky]

Can we not turn this into a public slanging match between two parties.

You both know each others identities, that's obvious. Keep it to yourselves and drop the personal insults otherwise it'll be classed as a breach of the posting guidelines and you'll be put on modwatch.

Ricky

[nicko]

nicko, I only know who you are, because you publicized the fact that you are Alan Nixon, the ex-hack who came on here to have his ego rubbed. As you correctly asserted, I slaughtered you for posting stories in support of a person, who, in my opinion, is a total charletan. In your opinion, he was totally on the level and you were going to give him a good kicking if you were proved wrong.

I can't remember running Rovers fans down. My recollection of the posts was that they were running me down. What is far more worrying to me is that you are more capable of Googling my background, than someone who would have a far greater impact on Rovers than me, have a fixation with Lawrence Llewellyn-Bowen and see some sexual content in my posts.

I preferred you when you were Dan Williams bitch, to be honest...

Check your facts, I was asked politely.

Odd that you don't like the spotlight turned on you.

Or maybe not.

By the way, cheers for the 'ex' - was that after I broke the stories that Kenwyne Jones was going to Sunderland, Crainey to your Portsmouth chums and Safri joining you?

[Damage]

What a joke!

Someone claims to be BRFC supporter, claims to have a pony named after our championship capt.

No corroboration but because someone (in timbuktu!?) mentioned money for players tyhen people eyes glaze over.

Please next time can we ensure we discuss things realistically - dont belive ANYONE is for real until they show the colour of their money!

Don't sell ourselves short - in reality or in fantasy!

It would take a bloody lot to be better than the current setup. Dont let any Johnny-come-lately chancer fool you into believing they are the genuine article!

The supporters must make their voices heard when it comes to takeover - if the prospective buyers refuse to give info about finance/identity I would ALWAYS assume that they are not genuine.

[philipl]

It depends how deeply into this stuff you are.

It is possible to locate where the device physically was when an e-mail is sent with a great deal of accuracy as I have seen that done when somebody in a work environment was in receipt of something he would rather not have received.

The evidence of the origin of the e-mail (a part of a street in a foreign country 1,000 miles from the recipient where the sender happened to own a property and was present at the time) taken in conjunction with knowledge shown in the content was deemed strong enough for a police warning to be given and to stand up in an employment tribunal irrespective of the attempt made to hide the identity of the e-mail sender.

[Paul]

No corroboration but because someone (in timbuktu!?) mentioned money for players tyhen people eyes glaze over.

Please next time can we ensure we discuss things realistically

As Tris pointed out last night some of us did try to discuss this realistically and in general got quietly slaughtered by those who saw $$$$. The only people we should believe, as I posted several week back, are the Blackburn Rovers management. When they tell us there has been a takeover, you can be sure there as been one.........till then it's talks about talks about talks about selling newspapers. When will people wake up to the fact 99% of the tabloid headlines are just that, headlines.

[BlueMonday]

Still it's nice to see Jilted John, the councillor from Southampton, back and flouncing around like a Lawrence Llwellyn-Bowen look-alike again.

The 'moving on' part was aimed at everyone

[Manchester Blue]

One comment chaps. It's policy on this site not to name people who don't want to be named. Please adhere to that.

I would have thought it would be better to have a policy banning wind-up merchants from other sites who clearly have too much time on their hands and should be far more interested in the shambles that is their own club.

[Manchester Blue]

As Tris pointed out last night some of us did try to discuss this realistically and in general got quietly slaughtered by those who saw $$$$. The only people we should believe, as I posted several week back, are the Blackburn Rovers management. When they tell us there has been a takeover, you can be sure there as been one.........till then it's talks about talks about talks about selling newspapers. When will people wake up to the fact 99% of the tabloid headlines are just that, headlines.

Simply not true Paul, not true at all. Certain posters took it upon themselves to be rude and offensive when they saw the limelight being taken. They were rightly slated for it. Plenty of posters, Damage and Revidge for two, have shown it was perfectly simple to have an opposite view and be sceptical without resorting to insults. Please don't try and re-write history as a quick trawl through both threads can easily show the truth.

[Exiled in Toronto]

How does the fact that the LET, presumably from BRFC sources, are quoting the takeover to not yet be off, fit in with all this conspiracy theory / he never had any money anyway posturing? Surely if it was all a sham from day 1, the LET would not be printing stuff 4 months later encouraging the notion that a takeover was still on the cards?

And can we please ban that Southampton tosser.

[thenodrog]

Please don't try and re-write history as a quick trawl through both threads can easily show the truth.

You call reading 305 pages on here 'a quick trawl'?

[rovers_rob]

How does the fact that the LET, presumably from BRFC sources, are quoting the takeover to not yet be off, fit in with all this conspiracy theory / he never had any money anyway posturing? Surely if it was all a sham from day 1, the LET would not be printing stuff 4 months later encouraging the notion that a takeover was still on the cards?

Thats exactly what I thought when I first read it, I could be reading too much into the 2 sentences that were in the telegraph today regarding the takeover but Andy Neild and the LET in general are pretty good with stuff like this and I don't think they would have said anything if they didn't know something.....but on the other hand if the LET are reacting to nicko's article in the people nicko did say that Williams will make his decision this week and the LET stated in their 2 sentences that a decision has not been made yet so are the LET just reiterating what nicko said in the people ??

[USRoverME]

just one thought from reading the last 3 pages quickly, I think it was damage who said our curernt setup was good....

I have to disagree with that. the Trust can only throw in so much money per year. At the rate that prices are escalating, and the fact that our side is getting long in the tooth in keeper and midfield (2 very expensive places to upgrade), I don't think the status quo can be maintained, ie keeping the same level of financial expenses AND maintain a chance to qualify for Europe each season. Well, that can't be maintained for longer than say 2-3 more seasons when Tugay, Savage, Brad, Freidel, Benni and likely others will all be retired, or so far past it that they aren't up to snuff anymore.

If we keep hold of Hughes, maybe his streak of cut price gems keeps us afloat, but if he makes one mistake on a key replacement, and we get no additional funding, we're bottom feeders again, especially with the amount of funding available to other competitors to the top 6 spots. I know we've done well in the past punching above our weight, but the gulf across which we have to punch is expanding quickly, and to my mind, I don't think the Trust can spend enough to keep up.

[Paul]

Please don't try and re-write history as a quick trawl through both threads can easily show the truth.

I think that's a rather daft suggestion, one I find offensive. So I'd appreciate an apology. I had the definite impression through the discussion those who showed opposition or scepticism to the DW takeover were being viewed as party-poopers. It's not a re-writing of history, it's a view I formed over a period of time reading the thread but I'm not going to trawl through 305 pages to demonstrate it, life is too short. I can't help it if I formed a different impression from your own, it doesn't mean I'm trying to twist what was written.

Certain posters took it upon themselves to be rude and offensive when they saw the limelight being taken. They were rightly slated for it.

As happens on occassions, I don't have a problem with that sort of reaction

Plenty of posters, Damage and Revidge for two, have shown it was perfectly simple to have an opposite view and be sceptical without resorting to insults.

Quite right

[Manchester Blue]

If you find what I wrote offensive then of course I apologise, it certainly wasn't intended. I get riled when people try and claim that posters who get shot down do so because people don't like different opinions. Very rarely is that the case IMO. It is more the manner of peoples postings and their agenda's that get a reaction.