JamieUK Posted June 30, 2007 Posted June 30, 2007 There's some agent on SSN Sports Saturday talking about him and has just said he has a clause in his contract to go for under £1m and that he's been played out of position all season on the right wing...
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LeChuck Posted June 30, 2007 Posted June 30, 2007 Before anyone gets excited about Rigters, remember one thing: Massimo Maccarone was the star of one of the Under 21 tournaments for Italy a few years back. He really was superb, far better than what I saw from Rigters...and look how he turned out.
92er Posted June 30, 2007 Posted June 30, 2007 According to the LT today, 3 clubs are after Jeffers and there are thought to be 3 after Todd ( we appear to want around £750,000 for him ). Both transfers could be resolved next week.
StaffordRover Posted June 30, 2007 Posted June 30, 2007 Should have seen Stafford mate, it's underwater. Could have canoed to work the other day it was that flooded. Completely off topic but good to know there's at least one other Rovers fan in town.
SIMON GARNERS 194 Posted June 30, 2007 Posted June 30, 2007 The sooner Jeffers and Todd are off the books the better.
herbergeehh Posted June 30, 2007 Posted June 30, 2007 In which way is Derbyshire "limited"? His technical abilies are decent, but they're not great. That's my main grip to be honest, it's really a matter of his overall game - he isn't a class player, and probably never will be. I'm sticking my neck out for the chop with that statement, I would like to add that I really appreciate having Matty in the team, and his contributions as a 2nd/3rd striker has been really good at times. But I just don't see him as a regular starter for us next year, and I don't see him as a future world class striker. Rev: As I said, I haven't seen Rigters play myself, so can't really discuss him specifically. A continental striker isn't necessarily any better than a British striker, it was the thought of a new, and to me, unknown striker, who clearly has showed some promise and attracted some interest, that appealed to me. If it makes this post easier to understand / relate too, I would love to see us sign a David Bentley up front. A young but not fully proven striker, who can take the Premiership on and really take us to the next level. It might also be a case of almost exaggerated trust in Mark Hughes - if he would shell out £3-4m on a 22 year old striker, wouldn't most people on here be in jubilation?
brfcshabba Posted June 30, 2007 Posted June 30, 2007 A continental striker isn't necessarily any better than a British striker, it was the thought of a new, and to me, unknown striker, who clearly has showed some promise and attracted some interest, that appealed to me. Like Grabbi?
Hasta Posted June 30, 2007 Posted June 30, 2007 As for Matty n Gally they are still young n looking to learn, it would eb perfecy if we got bellamy back and bellers to teach matty n Gally So wen its time they will be awsome! They young guns just need teeling by the big guys like bellers n benni! Matty I certainly wouldnt let go. However, Gally is 23 this year. He's moving swiftly out of the 'young lad' bracket. He's made over 50 appearances for Rovers but isn't close to a starting place at the moment. I think now would be a good time for him to move on, for his sake as much as ours.
brfc fan Posted June 30, 2007 Posted June 30, 2007 I think if we're goona keep Gally then we should play him more. He only started 5 games this season with 17 sub appearances. Gally stats I actually think we have too many strikers and should loose Jeffers and possibly Nonda.
Roar of the Rover Posted June 30, 2007 Posted June 30, 2007 At last something about a player signing for our club and not leaving. We have bid for Netherlands Under-21 striker Maceo Rigters. It's between us and Newcastle but we could lure him with European Football.
LeChuck Posted June 30, 2007 Posted June 30, 2007 Rev: As I said, I haven't seen Rigters play myself, so can't really discuss him specifically. A continental striker isn't necessarily any better than a British striker, it was the thought of a new, and to me, unknown striker, who clearly has showed some promise and attracted some interest, that appealed to me. If it makes this post easier to understand / relate too, I would love to see us sign a David Bentley up front. A young but not fully proven striker, who can take the Premiership on and really take us to the next level. Rigters is 23 though, he's hardly an up and coming star. I'd wager a fairly large amount that Derbyshire will be a better player when he's 23 than what Rigters is now.
USABlue Posted June 30, 2007 Posted June 30, 2007 Desperate this lack of news isn't it!! totally stupifying, if it wasn't for the For Sale sign out front we'd have had nowt to talk about. One of the quietest I can remember we have not been linked with hardly anyone really.
USABlue Posted June 30, 2007 Posted June 30, 2007 FLB, of course everything you say above is correct but I simply read herbergeehh's post at face value i.e. that this lad would be a direct (and preferable) alternative to Derbyshire. Apologies to him if I interpreted the post wrongly but I find there's quite often a general misconception that a 21 year old continental player must automatically be better than a 21 year old British player simply because he hails from the continent. I don't think anything was misinterpreted, if we sign this lad then surely the intention would be to play him, since we can't play 12 (we only play AGAINST 12) then some one has to move over, I took it to be exactly the same. Matty is the man, as long as he does not do a second year Stead he's a great great prospect. As good of a finisher for a young un as I have seen at Ewood for a long time now. "Technical abilities" he has the ability to stick the ball in the net and is that not the object of the game. He is also a decent worker, he will learn as long as he tucks 'em away with regularity and does not give up too much that's good enough for me.
tcj_jones Posted June 30, 2007 Posted June 30, 2007 Ricky's link in the transfer links thread implying that we have bid for Rigters worries me a little. We already have McCarthy, Roberts and Derbyshire who I doubt will be leaving this summer. Him joining would mean either we will not be bidding for Bellamy, or any other striker for that matter, or that one of McCarthy, Roberts or Derbyshire will be leaving. Five strikers is too many for a club of our stature. I only want to see us bidding for players that will significantly improve the first team. As we only need two or three players maximum, then we can afford to plash out.
RevidgeBlue Posted July 1, 2007 Posted July 1, 2007 There's also quite often the opposite; a perception that an English player is automatically better or preferable to a continental one. I suppose the conclusion here is that preconceived notions are generally not worth much. I really don't think that's the case but I would agree that an already PROVEN home grown performer at Premiership level will attract a higher fee than his equivalent in La Liga/Serie A etc because you don't have the imponderables as to whether they'll perform in a faster more physical League/ settle properly in this country etc.
herbergeehh Posted July 1, 2007 Posted July 1, 2007 "Technical abilities" he has the ability to stick the ball in the net and is that not the object of the game. Well, you are right in your interpretations, that was what I meant. I don't see Derbyshire as our first choice partner to Benni next season, and even though I do see quite a lot of qualities in the boy, I don't think he will be a future STAR in the Premiership. He'll probably become a better player with age, and might even become an attractive Prem player one day - but compared to e.g. Bentley (position excluded) he is in a lower league. As for the foreigner debate, it's quite clear that an English player will be more expensive, which is another reason for us to sign someone from abroad.
herbergeehh Posted July 1, 2007 Posted July 1, 2007 Oh, and the Grabbi comparison is ridiculous, not to mention ooooooooooooold.
philipl Posted July 1, 2007 Posted July 1, 2007 The thing thatr impressed me about Rigters is he was like a bull on the ball- no shaking him off it and a decent technique as well. Wind back the Roberts thread before he scored five in five and the common complaint was he had awful technique. "trapping a bag of cement" comments abound. My guess is there is a bidding war for Roberts and Hughes has seen an opportunity to sign a younger and more technically gifted player for less than we can sell Roberts for. Last season, when we played the Big 4, they looked physically stronger than us as well as having the ability to keep possession. If Rigters is a target, I think Hughes is looking to improve our ability to defend from the front. As for the comments about Rovers doing nothing, the operative words are saying nothing publicly. We have a class act at Ewood that is using the club's low press profile to its advantage.
frosty Posted July 1, 2007 Posted July 1, 2007 Two premiership clubs have made offers for Rigters: http://www.sportinglife.com/football/premi...ER_Rigters.html
OJRovers Posted July 1, 2007 Posted July 1, 2007 Possibly Andre Ooijer can have a word with him and pursuade him to come.
USABlue Posted July 1, 2007 Posted July 1, 2007 Well, you are right in your interpretations, that was what I meant. I don't see Derbyshire as our first choice partner to Benni next season, and even though I do see quite a lot of qualities in the boy, I don't think he will be a future STAR in the Premiership. He'll probably become a better player with age, and might even become an attractive Prem player one day - but compared to e.g. Bentley (position excluded) he is in a lower league. As for the foreigner debate, it's quite clear that an English player will be more expensive, which is another reason for us to sign someone from abroad. I have to disagree Herb, from what I have seen Matty will become a star, perhaps not in the Henry sense of the word with the silky skills but he will become a prolific scorer if he continues to develop as quickly as he has. Just my thoughts, and hope I am not wrong. Remember it's not that long ago the lad was playing for 'Arrod. Grabbi comparisons?? Are you referring to the other player on the video? I was not really comparing him just being cynical about the use of video for assessing a player. Hey if the Dutch lad has skill that can make us better get him. But me, well as you may have guessed I am quite excited about Matty.
AndyC Posted July 1, 2007 Posted July 1, 2007 As for the comments about Rovers doing nothing, the operative words are saying nothing publicly. We have a class act at Ewood that is using the club's low press profile to its advantage. exactly - why do people always moan about things not happening? do you really believe hughes et all are sitting on their backsides waiting for august 14th before they do anything? would you rather we were like spurs and getting linked with absolutely everyone??? surely you must be used to the rovers way of working by now!
SIMON GARNERS 194 Posted July 1, 2007 Posted July 1, 2007 would you rather we were like spurs and getting linked with absolutely everyone??? YES!....It would make a ruddy change from having our best players and even manager being linked with other clubs all the time....I would just like us to be more bullish in the tranfer market sometimes.Would also probably raise profile/interest in the club and maybe season ticket sales.
American Posted July 1, 2007 Posted July 1, 2007 I have to disagree Herb, from what I have seen Matty will become a star, perhaps not in the Henry sense of the word with the silky skills but he will become a prolific scorer if he continues to develop as quickly as he has. Just my thoughts, and hope I am not wrong. Remember it's not that long ago the lad was playing for 'Arrod. Grabbi comparisons?? Are you referring to the other player on the video? I was not really comparing him just being cynical about the use of video for assessing a player. Hey if the Dutch lad has skill that can make us better get him. But me, well as you may have guessed I am quite excited about Matty. I was as excited about Gally and Stead as you are about Matty....
Manchester Blue Posted July 1, 2007 Posted July 1, 2007 YES!....It would make a ruddy change from having our best players and even manager being linked with other clubs all the time....I would just like us to be more bullish in the tranfer market sometimes.Would also probably raise profile/interest in the club and maybe season ticket sales. I find that bizarre. Spurs have long been a laughing stock in the transfer market, forever being linked with players they haven't a hope of signing. I find it dishonest and would much prefer our club where we try to keep transfers under wraps and do't pretend we close to signing ever tom, dick and henry. How do you know we aren't being bullish in the transfer market? Hughes has proved himself to be a master in the transfer market so why when it goes quiet for a few weeks do people started haveing a hissy fit. How many of our star players have we lost so far? Judge Hughes at the start of the season not the start if the buying period.
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