Cocker Posted July 21, 2007 Posted July 21, 2007 Sadly, in the light of this dismal transfer window, it probably indicates Sparky hasn't even been given enough money to replace Jeffers properly, let alone lodge a serious bid for someone of Bellamy's calibre. Well he has because he has brought in Rigters???? So we already have one more player than last year
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RevidgeBlue Posted July 21, 2007 Posted July 21, 2007 Well he has because he has brought in Rigters???? So we already have one more player than last year The first team squad has one more striker and one less centre back with Todd's departure. What I meant was that if we're suddenly not actively looking to offload Jeffers either permanently or on loan any longer, it seems a lot less likely that anyone else will be coming in. Otherwise he would be so surplus to requirements it would be foolish to keep him on. And whoever it was wouldn't have to be that good to be an improvement on Jeffers imo.
philipl Posted July 21, 2007 Posted July 21, 2007 Revidge, I think the time to say whether this has been a dismal window is when the window closes. At the moment the nearest equivalent I can think of to the summer of 2007 for most Prem clubs is the buying sprees of Hodgson and Kidd. You remember- £5m on Dailly, £7m on Davies, £4m each on Ward and Blake, buying Egil, Frandsen, Carsley etc etc. For people to suggest £2.5m on Luke Young is good biz is a sign the whole thing is febrile- he would be 5th choice CB at Ewood. Far from dismal, keeping out of this market having already built the strength to be able to sit back is brilliant in my book. Rovers have the ability to spend big and would have done had Wham not been over-egging Bellers. The message to Jeffers is surely, get real with your wage demands to clubs looking to buy you or rot in the stiffs at Ewood for 12 months and see what that does to your value when you are a free agent next summer. Hughes' statement has nothing to do with his plans for Rovers.
John Posted July 21, 2007 Posted July 21, 2007 It is pretty clear that Jeffers is not in Hughes plans if you look Sparky's comments yesterday (that we are looking for another striker). Philip - Young is a right back.
John Posted July 21, 2007 Posted July 21, 2007 Not going to get in a massive debate about Luke Young as he has gone to Boro anyway.... however, people are too quick to right him off on here. He has been player of the season for Charlton (I know its only Charlton but still) a couple of times in recent years and he is highly rated and adored by their fans. If you put him into our squad, he would be first choice right-back.
philipl Posted July 21, 2007 Posted July 21, 2007 Emo has been the outstanding player for Aus in the Asian tournament just finished (for the ozzies). Charlton have been terrible defensively for a long time. Rovers have had a couple of 4-1s against them, a 3-2 and the 2-0 at the Valley in Curb's last game ranked as one of the worst displays from a Prem team I have seen. I cannot remember any heroics at right back from the Addicks in any of those games. Todd has been player of the season for two seasons for Rovers but nobody would play him ahead of Nelsen, Samba, Zura or Ooijer today.
tcj_jones Posted July 22, 2007 Posted July 22, 2007 I suggested last summer that the free transfer move for Jeffers would not be that cheap over the life of the contract with his likely wages being around 10k p.w. At the time I was shot down by certain posters who were trying to suggest he would only be on something like 3k p.w.! For teh record, I agreed fully at the time. Jeffers was never much more than a "fox in the box," who didn't offer much in terms of an all round game. He is the sort of player that doesn't have an attribute to make an impact off the bench. He shouldn't be a squad rotation player, or fifth choice striker as he will be next season, he should be starting week in, week out. If he stays, then there is no way that we will be buying another striker, unless one of McCarthy, Roberts or Derbyshire leave, which is very disapointing.
Bing Posted July 22, 2007 Posted July 22, 2007 Luke Young is a terrible player. Boro are looking a desperately poor side for next season.
RevidgeBlue Posted July 22, 2007 Posted July 22, 2007 According to today's NOTW Brum are to make a club record 10m bid for Yakubu but will face stern competition from Citeh. (If they were able to team him up with Mido that would be a pretty potent looking forward line) Imo Yakubu is the calibre of player we should be looking at to provide the finishing touches to the squad, but seemingly we aren't even in the market for.
DavidMailsTightPerm Posted July 22, 2007 Posted July 22, 2007 According to today's NOTW Brum are to make a club record 10m bid for Yakubu but will face stern competition from Citeh. (If they were able to team him up with Mido that would be a pretty potent looking forward line) Imo Yakubu is the calibre of player we should be looking at to provide the finishing touches to the squad, but seemingly we aren't even in the market for. Maybe - but £10m - he didn't exactly help Boro reach new heights did he ? The way the british transfer market is going - far better to try and pick up a gem from abroad. Rigters may or may not be that player. For all the inactivity - up to press - we have actually managed to hold onto all our stars - at a time when clubs with far more money than Rovers are struggling to hold onto theirs. Add to this Nelsen signing a new extended contract - and as things stand I wouldn't be too disappointed. We possibly do need a high profile signing to get the fans going - but with so many influential players coming back from injury (and I include Roberts in that - as I don't think we saw the best of him until towards the end of the season due to injury) we are already in a better position than we were for much of last season (a season where we finished 10th, semi final of FA Cup and good run in Europe). So even without signings - I think the squad has improved
Eddie Posted July 22, 2007 Posted July 22, 2007 According to today's NOTW Brum are to make a club record 10m bid for Yakubu but will face stern competition from Citeh. (If they were able to team him up with Mido that would be a pretty potent looking forward line) Imo Yakubu is the calibre of player we should be looking at to provide the finishing touches to the squad, but seemingly we aren't even in the market for. Totally agree, especially at what looks like a pretty decent price given the market.
philipl Posted July 22, 2007 Posted July 22, 2007 Happened across the European Golden Boot table which showed: 14= Rolando Bianchi Reggina Calcio (ITA) 18 2 36 14= Benni McCarthy Blackburn Rovers FC (ENG) 18 2 36 16 Eduardo da Silva NK Dinamo Zagreb (CRO) 34 1 34 The 1 and 2 are the weighting factors for goals scored in the respective leagues. Nice to see Benni so high up. Will be interesting to see how messrs Bianchi and da Silva adapt to the EPL- I suspect the latter will be a real force and strongly advise getting your money on him to win the Golden Boot this season.
Sandiway Blue Posted July 22, 2007 Posted July 22, 2007 Happened across the European Golden Boot table which showed: 14= Rolando Bianchi Reggina Calcio (ITA) 18 2 36 14= Benni McCarthy Blackburn Rovers FC (ENG) 18 2 36 16 Eduardo da Silva NK Dinamo Zagreb (CRO) 34 1 34 The 1 and 2 are the weighting factors for goals scored in the respective leagues. Nice to see Benni so high up. Will be interesting to see how messrs Bianchi and da Silva adapt to the EPL- I suspect the latter will be a real force and strongly advise getting your money on him to win the Golden Boot this season. da silva 25/1 at ladbrokes mmm.....
tcj_jones Posted July 22, 2007 Posted July 22, 2007 At £10 million, I really feel as though we should be in the market for Yakubu. However, I can see that price rapidly rising. Without Yakubu next season, I feel 'Boro are looking a really poor side.
savage8 Posted July 22, 2007 Posted July 22, 2007 An overview of Rovers. A good read, got a smile on my face now. excited about today, can't wait for the season to start.
American Posted July 22, 2007 Posted July 22, 2007 I suggested last summer that the free transfer move for Jeffers would not be that cheap over the life of the contract with his likely wages being around 10k p.w. At the time I was shot down by certain posters who were trying to suggest he would only be on something like 3k p.w.! Ipswich was said to offer him more than he was on at Rovers. So assuming (and it is a huge assumption) he was offered 10k, I'd guess he's on about 8k here.
JAL Posted July 22, 2007 Posted July 22, 2007 An overview of Rovers. I'd put the losing to teams they should have beaten down to the attacking weaknesses of the central midfield area, if the wide men are having an off day or non productive day then the centre of midfield needs to come to the fore and weigh in with some outstanding attacking ability, Tugay did it once or twice, the axe scored ONE but i cant think of too many other crucial contributors from the central midfield area.
JAL Posted July 22, 2007 Posted July 22, 2007 At £10 million, I really feel as though we should be in the market for Yakubu. However, I can see that price rapidly rising. Without Yakubu next season, I feel 'Boro are looking a really poor side. WHY ? Why o why pay that kind of money when theres another unknown Yakubu out there, Africa is a massive continent with an abundance of talent, Hughesy should go and find the newer model and not pay over the odds for the older one (Yakubu)-surely!.
frosty Posted July 22, 2007 Posted July 22, 2007 WHY ? Why o why pay that kind of money when theres another unknown Yakubu out there, Africa is a massive continent with an abundance of talent, Hughesy should go and find the newer model and not pay over the odds for the older one (Yakubu)-surely!. Totally agree, Hughesy should keep up what he's been doing - finding gems
LeChuck Posted July 22, 2007 Posted July 22, 2007 WHY ? Why o why pay that kind of money when theres another unknown Yakubu out there, Africa is a massive continent with an abundance of talent, Hughesy should go and find the newer model and not pay over the odds for the older one (Yakubu)-surely!. What? How on Earth do you expect Sparky to be able to do that? How do you even know a player with such quality exists? If they were any good they'd have made it to international level by now, so surely someone would have seen them already. The last striker to come to the Premiership from Africa with the slightest bit of hype was Collins Mbesuma (I believe we were linked with him at the time), and look how he's turned out. The 'older' (24 years old) Yakubu is worth £10 million of anyones money. He'll always be in the top 5 goal scorers, and there's probably more to come from him. After all, he's only worked with Redknapp, McClaren and Southgate...imagine what someone like Hughes could get out of him.
tcj_jones Posted July 22, 2007 Posted July 22, 2007 I'd put the losing to teams they should have beaten down to the attacking weaknesses of the central midfield area, if the wide men are having an off day or non productive day then the centre of midfield needs to come to the fore and weigh in with some outstanding attacking ability, Tugay did it once or twice, the axe scored ONE but i cant think of too many other crucial contributors from the central midfield area. That's a very good point and why I feel we missed Reid so much last season. Hopefully this season with a fully fit Reid and Dunn we will have more of an attacking threat from the middle of the park. On Yakubu, I see you point, but I also agree with LeChuck. Sometimes these players do exist and Hughes has had a good record finding hidden gems, some even in their mid or late twenties. However, it isn't always that simple. Goal scoring strikers are more valuable than any other player and they are harder to come by. Similarly, goal scorers are unearthed far quicker than players playing in other positions. As LeChuck says, Yakubu will always be up there in the top goal scorers in the Premiership and he has an added dimension in his pure power and athleticsm. I think Yakubu would be a huge buy for us. I'd prefer him to Defoe.
Walls Posted July 22, 2007 Posted July 22, 2007 On the match commentry Tim Sherwood has just said that we turned down a big offer from Spurs for MGP. I don't know if he's just speculating but isn't he still well connected - I think he has a footballers lifestyle mag with Jamie Redknapp.
USABlue Posted July 22, 2007 Posted July 22, 2007 Didn't Sparky just get done sayin that we haven't had to knock anyone back? Or was this offer sometime ago?
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