[Archived] Summer Transfer Window

[daren]

If you want to keep Hughes, and feel money in his pocket will help, pay him more directly. Even if your scheme keeps him for one more year what about the next manager? Or the one after that? It's a bad precedent, and I'm also pretty sure that it's against FA rules for the manager to profit directly from a transfer.

And what's all your talk of "he'll leave next year"? I mean, I know Rovers fans are pessimistic, but it used to be within reason. You're sure that everyone's gone (when success will keep them, for a time at least) and LeChuck is determined that we're going to struggle (despite the fact that our squad is stronger now than it was this time last year) because we've kept our powder dry in a transfer market gone crazy. Maybe a season ticket should come with a prescription for valium

I'm as frustrated as anyone else that everything's quiet and that we don't know who we're in for, and our players are linked out, and mediocre players linked in - but seriously, since Mark Hughes took over, Rovers have been very quiet, and very shrewd in the market as well as willing to wait for their man, players are always linked away (Bellamy was the only disappointment) and we're always linked with mediocre players - which we rarely actually get. And when we do, it turns out that they're worth it (see threads on Warnock, Samba, Benni, Nelsen, Ooijer, etc.). So I'm being patient. I suppose I just get frustrated that the doomsayers get more and more hysterical.

Although I shouldn't expect better than a crazy scheme from theno, after all, he wants this Lancashire United, right? Presumably including Burnley!

Edit: apparently I'm incapable of making sense the first, or even the second time tonight. So third time lucky. Plus I'm making more sense than theno!

[B'burn End Row 10 Seat 160]

Just about recovered enough to give you the latest John Williams gave us after the Vetra game behind the goal!

He said a striker should be signed by next week but he wasn't giving away a name! I made sure it wasn't Nonda and he said it definately wasn't! (I had to make sure).

My thoughts now after reading teamtalk.com today suggest it will probably be Santa Cruz!

http://www.teamtalk.com/football/story/0,1...2610583,00.html

[Lathund]

I guess you are right rainmaker. So sod it then....... We'll just have to say bye bye to Hughes and his team within the next 12 months as well as bye bye to the likes of Benni, Bentley, MGP etc. whilst greeting the new manager and his Blake, Ward, Dailly quality inputs until mercifully relegations place us back where we belong..... A perennial yo-yo club between the championship and the 1st div.

Well yes, because that's obviously what's going to happen unless MH is given a cut of player sales

You do realise that there are other ways of giving him a bonus that don't involve any conflict of interest? Such as bonuses based on league placings or advancements in cups. Or, and bear with me because it's a rather revolutionary concept, give him a higher salary. I really don't know why you keep bringing this idea up, surely you can see the conflict of interest inherent in the idea? If there is no bonus, any bids for a Rovers player will (From MH's perspective) be a question purely of whether it's going to improve the team or not. Add a bonus like this and his own greed would factor into it. From what I can tell he's a man of integrity, but I still don't think it's worth it.

[USABlue]

I guess you are right rainmaker. So sod it then....... We'll just have to say bye bye to Hughes and his team within the next 12 months as well as bye bye to the likes of Benni, Bentley, MGP etc. whilst greeting the new manager and his Blake, Ward, Dailly quality inputs until mercifully relegations place us back where we belong..... A perennial yo-yo club between the championship and the 1st div.

Gordon, you've topped yourself I think mate. If I am reading this suggestion correctly. A bigger load of speculative dribble I have never read. You are twisting things and adding hypothetical situtions that you can have no idea will happen just to try to support your notion.

From where I sit what you are suggesting smacks of conflict of interest and I would think in most places might cost you your job. To have a manager buy and sell players to supplement his income as a bonus or whatever sounds barely legal even. I suppose I just don't get it, the idea is novel I suppose but ther e is the the chance of abuse.

Perhaps a nice fat bonus based on league position, rounds won in the cups and then use some form of factoring how much he'd spent to arrive at a final bonus amount.

Or are you simply saying that if Hughes buys a player, sells him at a profit he shuold get a cut of that, seems to me that is basically what all this Stevens business is about is it not. MAybe I'm just lost too, it's been a long day.

[neekoy]

All this talk of Curbishly will be to end as he will get the sack anyway before the season is completed. The owners will want a top 6 finish for the money they have invested and he won't provide it. He is a shoestring manager, give him a bit of money and I can see him turning into Souness.

The last time West Ham were relegated they had a better squad then what they do now.

[frosty]

Hopefully we can get somebody in soon, sounds like we are pushing through the Santa Cruz deal quickly.

[tchocky]

What happened to Roy Makaay? Is he not there anymore? Whenever these articles list BM's strikers they always seem to leave him out. Not a bad strikeforce they have in any case:

Luca Toni

Lukas Podolski

Miroslav Klose

Roy Makaaay?

Jan Schlaudraff

Roque Santa Cruz

[herbergeehh]

He's signed for Feyenoord, methinks!

[herbergeehh]

Very true that last sentence. Giving Bellamy, Ljungberg, Faubert and Parker monster wages - and not showing any signs of ending there - they will need Champions League football at some point to make even. Arsenal to nick 2nd place and West Ham to end 11th or 12th for me.

[Mr. E]

I really don't understand though why we're pursuing a new striker. Aren't Roberts/Righters/Derbyshire good enough to fill the spot next to Benni?? And with a 5th striker one of them will have to go or barely get a game all season - and I don't see who that will be. All of them deserve their chance.

[Manc Rover]

I really don't understand though why we're perusing a new striker. Aren't Roberts/Righters/Derbyshire good enough to fill the spot next to Benni?? And with a 5th striker one of them will have to go or barely get a game all season - and I don't see who that will be. All of them deserve their chance.

At a guess, I would say that McCarthy and the club have an agreement in place that if we sign another top class striker (like Santa Cruz) then they will let him leave. Unfortuntate but it seems logical.

[RoyRover]

He did indeed. I saw him practicing last week in Rotterdam at the team's training facility and then saw him score six goals a few days later in a friendly in the town of Borculo in the east of Holland, where Feyenoord won 18-0!

[Manc Rover]

What happened to Roy Makaay? Is he not there anymore? Whenever these articles list BM's strikers they always seem to leave him out. Not a bad strikeforce they have in any case:

Luca Toni

Lukas Podolski

Miroslav Klose

Roy Makaaay?

Jan Schlaudraff

Roque Santa Cruz

Roy Makaay - now there's a proper centre forward! I'd say go for him instead, but we've more chance of landing Don Mackay!

[herbergeehh]

Lazy sod though, his overall game would make McCarthy look like Robbie Savage. Can't really argue against his scoring record though - but there was certainly a lot of good reasons for Bayern to offload him.

[Rovermatt]

The signing of Santa Cruz could be excellent. He's a very talented player who has been hampered at Bayern by injuries and the club's insistence on buying any striker it claps eyes on.

I hope this works out.

[herbergeehh]

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[sussexrover]

I'm not sure Santa Cruz (or other striker) arriving would necessarily lead to the departure of Benni. We had 3 experienced strikers last season including Nonda - and a serious injury to one of Benni or Roberts would now leave us exposed in that respect. Who knows how quickly Rigters will adapt to the Premiership and whether Derbyshire will continue to develop as he has. Also, if Pleasure is to be believed and we are mulling over the sale of Gallagher then perhaps Hughes is considering using Derbyshire both up front or wide right as he did against Vetra.

[LeftWinger]

Also, if Pleasure is to be believed

[Eddie]

All this talk of Curbishly will be to end as he will get the sack anyway before the season is completed. The owners will want a top 6 finish for the money they have invested and he won't provide it. He is a shoestring manager, give him a bit of money and I can see him turning into Souness.

The last time West Ham were relegated they had a better squad then what they do now.

The last time we were relegated we probably had a better squad than we do now...

[Jan]

The last time we were relegated we probably had a better squad than we do now...

OK

You have surpassed yourself and gone from the "vaguely puzzling" to the "clearly off his trolley".

[cn174]

The last time we were relegated we probably had a better squad than we do now...

We had a combination of Sutton, Davies, Dahlin, Blake, Jansen, Ward and Gallagher up front (20 goals between them), possibly the worst centre back partnership ever in Dailly and Peacock, with Perez, Davidson, Broomes and Croft also playing in defence!! With the exception of Sutton not one of them would be good enough for us now

[Jan]

We had a combination of Sutton, Davies, Dahlin, Blake, Jansen, Ward and Gallagher up front (20 goals between them), possibly the worst centre back partnership ever in Dailly and Peacock, with Perez, Davidson, Broomes and Croft also playing in defence!! With the exception of Sutton not one of them would be good enough for us now

And Sutton was "injured" nearly all of that season. And you're paying for the therapy for reminding me of the pony-tailed wonder!

[pleasure]

eddie, that's pure madness. we sold a premiership team, and bought a 1st division 1.

here's the 98/99 squad, after we sold our best players.

Alan Fettis

John Filan

Tim Flowers

Anthony Williams

Marlon Broomes

Gary Croft

Christian Dailly

Callum Davidson

Stéphane Henchoz

Jeff Kenna

Darren Peacock

Martin Taylor

David Worrel

Jim Corbett

David Dunn

Garry Flitcroft

Wayne Gill

Keith Gillespie

Damien Johnson

Oumar Konde

Dario Marcolin

Jason McAteer

Billy McKinlay

Burton O'Brien

Jason Wilcox

Nathan Blake

Kevin Davies

Damien Duff

Kevin Gallacher

Matthew Jansen

Chris Sutton

James Thomas

Ashley Ward

[Manc Rover]

OK

You have surpassed yourself and gone from the "vaguely puzzling" to the "clearly off his trolley".

Whe we were relegated we had a bunch of players who were complete no-hopers. Davies, Ward, Blake, Carsley, Croft, Grayson, Davidson, Peacock, Dailly. I mentioned them without even having to think about it so how on earth can you compare them to our current squad of proven and exciting players. We've got a quality side and to be honest, I cant believe i'm actually replying to this!

[Jan]

You didn't- you replied to me who agreed with you