herbergeehh Posted January 1, 2008 Posted January 1, 2008 It other words, he should be compared to (unnecessary players excluded): Chris Sutton Roque Santa Cruz Jon Stead Andy Cole Hakan Sükür Craig Bellamy Benni McCarthy I guess the two latest strikers to arrive has arguably been the best, Bellamy and McCarthy. Benni's goals last season made us a team fighting for Europe instead of a place in next years Premier League - and Bellamy was perhaps an even bigger reason for our good position the year before. Stead is really not an option, even though he played a big part and I wish him only good things. Cole played well, and had 1 goal per 3 matches I believe for Rovers - which is really good. Sukur is a player I've always liked, a bit similar to Santa Cruz actually. Great finisher! Sutton is hard to judge, since he played for us during a tough period.. But Chelsea paid good money, at least. If Benni can find his feet again in the Premiership, I think we'll have one of the deadliest duo's in the Premiership (and world) come March.
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Jimmy Jupiter Posted January 1, 2008 Posted January 1, 2008 It other words, he should be compared to (unnecessary players excluded): Chris Sutton Roque Santa Cruz Jon Stead Andy Cole Hakan Sükür Craig Bellamy Benni McCarthy I guess the two latest strikers to arrive has arguably been the best, Bellamy and McCarthy. Benni's goals last season made us a team fighting for Europe instead of a place in next years Premier League - and Bellamy was perhaps an even bigger reason for our good position the year before. Stead is really not an option, even though he played a big part and I wish him only good things. Cole played well, and had 1 goal per 3 matches I believe for Rovers - which is really good. Sukur is a player I've always liked, a bit similar to Santa Cruz actually. Great finisher! Sutton is hard to judge, since he played for us during a tough period.. But Chelsea paid good money, at least. If Benni can find his feet again in the Premiership, I think we'll have one of the deadliest duo's in the Premiership (and world) come March. Kevin Gallacher deserves a mention in that list if Jon Stead does.
rover6 Posted January 1, 2008 Posted January 1, 2008 And Matt Jansen, who was not prolific, but definitely played as a striker and was very good.
herbergeehh Posted January 1, 2008 Posted January 1, 2008 RSC shouldn't be compared with RSC either.. But: Chris Sutton Kevin Gallacher Matt Jansen Jon Stead Andy Cole Hakan Sükür Craig Bellamy Benni McCarthy Best since Shearer?
tcj_jones Posted January 2, 2008 Posted January 2, 2008 I've heard that West Ham are wanting rid of Bellamy. Just think....we swap Benni for Bellamy (which would be a great deal for us) and then.......Santa and Bellers up front! Surely that would be one of the best striking partnerships we have ever had in the modern era? I think he's wages could be a stumbling block but I reckon if West Ham are sniffing around McCarthy then this is the only deal we should accept? Thinking about it maybe McCarthy and Bellamy are on similar wages anyway...? I can't imagine West Ham wanting rid of Bellamy - he's barely even played for them! I don't think a manager spends the kind of money that Curbishly did, then decides half a season in that he wants rid. I also remember Bellamy saying how he could envisage himself staying at the club for the rest of his career - I'd be surprised if he wanted out.
tcj_jones Posted January 2, 2008 Posted January 2, 2008 For me, Bellamy is the best striker we've had at the club since Shearer. The thought of the two leading the Rovers attack is mouth watering. RSC is a fabulous player, but with Bellamy in the team, we looked dangerous every time we went forward. I'm absolutely gutted that he left, even if he has spent much of his time either on the bench or in the treatment room.
Fife Rover Posted January 2, 2008 Posted January 2, 2008 For me, Bellamy is the best striker we've had at the club since Shearer. The thought of the two leading the Rovers attack is mouth watering. RSC is a fabulous player, but with Bellamy in the team, we looked dangerous every time we went forward. I'm absolutely gutted that he left, even if he has spent much of his time either on the bench or in the treatment room. I think I would agree with that. It certainly is an exciting prospect to think of a fully fit Bellamy and Santa Cruz operating together. I think I could easily forget Benni in those circumstances, good though he undoubtedly is.
herbergeehh Posted January 2, 2008 Posted January 2, 2008 I think it was against Portsmouth in 2006, a 2-2 draw, where Bellamy scored a fantastic solo effort, I first got the feeling we had something special going on. He could do anything on his own at that time, and terrorized defences all over the league. I like RSC better though.
andrew92 Posted January 2, 2008 Posted January 2, 2008 No, he's nowhere near to the mighty Shearer [ 22 ] [21.57%] unless im reading the question wrong it says, SINCE shearer, name a striker since shearer thats better? erm dnt think you could!
philipl Posted January 5, 2008 Posted January 5, 2008 The Guardian report that City only offered £7.6m for Roque. That wasn't even as difficult as a no brainer to reject that then!
Ronin Posted January 8, 2008 Posted January 8, 2008 Nice to see a Player-Of-The-Month award for Santa Cruz http://elitefootballtalk.blogspot.com/2008...oops-award.html
rebelmswar Posted January 8, 2008 Posted January 8, 2008 Nice to see a Player-Of-The-Month award for Santa Cruz http://elitefootballtalk.blogspot.com/2008...oops-award.html Oh bugger no more goals for a month now then.
thenodrog Posted January 8, 2008 Posted January 8, 2008 I also remember Bellamy saying how he could envisage himself staying at the club for the rest of his career - I'd be surprised if he wanted out. Q. How can you tell when Craig Bellamy is telling lies? A. His lips are moving. tcj From the collection of crap and untruths that he's come out with at Cov, NUFC, BRFC, Lpool and WHU etc I would be amazed if Bellamy can even lie straight in bed! Notwithstanding the public statements so obviously written by his agent and trotted out monosyllabically for the sake of the less cerebral club fans at wherever the man is a serial liar. His world is dedicated to two things ... money and his overblown ego. Damned talented footballer without doubt but please spare us the Bellamy 'honest injun' quotes please.
philipl Posted January 9, 2008 Posted January 9, 2008 Oh bugger no more goals for a month now then. Worse than that- if has the same effect as MotM on Sparky, no goals in February, one fluky goal in March, a brief flurry in April and the blonde will walk out on him in May for some chap in Derby.
tcj_jones Posted January 9, 2008 Posted January 9, 2008 Q. How can you tell when Craig Bellamy is telling lies? A. His lips are moving. tcj From the collection of crap and untruths that he's come out with at Cov, NUFC, BRFC, Lpool and WHU etc I would be amazed if Bellamy can even lie straight in bed! Notwithstanding the public statements so obviously written by his agent and trotted out monosyllabically for the sake of the less cerebral club fans at wherever the man is a serial liar. His world is dedicated to two things ... money and his overblown ego. Damned talented footballer without doubt but please spare us the Bellamy 'honest injun' quotes please. Haha, fair enough. But, for the record, when he left Rovers, he went about things very professionally. Any "lies" he told were for the benefit of the club and its fans. Maybe he's turned over a new leaf Come to think of it, I haven't heard his name bad mouthed in the press for some time. I like Roque's integrity and honesty and think that he is a much better person, but Bellamy is definitely the best striker we've had at the club since Shearer.
LeftWinger Posted January 9, 2008 Posted January 9, 2008 I like Roque's integrity and honesty and think that he is a much better person, but Bellamy is definitely the best striker we've had at the club since Shearer. The poll should have been - Who has been the best Striker since Shearer? Bellamy, Santa Cruz, McCarthy, Sutton, Ashley Ward Would have been a much better poll.
joey_big_nose Posted January 9, 2008 Posted January 9, 2008 The poll should have been - Who has been the best Striker since Shearer? Bellamy, Santa Cruz, McCarthy, Sutton, Ashley Ward Would have been a much better poll. Could add Jansen and Andy COle to that too. We have had some good strikers at Ewood over the last 15 years.
McClarky Posted January 28, 2008 Posted January 28, 2008 I sent Tim Vickery an e-mail to ask why he thought RSC had been such a success at Ewood and this is what he had to say:- "he's been a class act ever since he first appeared as a 16 year old for Olimpia in Paraguay - he scored a hat trick against Velez Sarsfield of Argentina with Chilavert in goal and so we knew there was something special there - with that combination of aerial power, acceleration, first touch and two footed finishing, he was leading the Paraguay attack in the 99 Copa America at the age of 17 - that's when he went to Bayern, who really though at the time that they ahd picked up a future global superstar. After 8 years they finally gave up on him - he had been badly hit by injuries, year after year - but the beanpole frame seems to ahve stood up well enough to the Premiership. It might be the case that Bayern was too big for him - Paraguayans in general are lovely, serene people, but they can be very shy - I've only spoken to Santa Cruz very briefly some years ago, but it could well be the case that a more homely club like Blackburn is a better environment for him." So endeth the thoughts of the oracle of South American football as heard on BBC World Service Friday night footie phone in.
philipl Posted January 29, 2008 Posted January 29, 2008 Thanks for that McClarky. Not met the lad but from his public persona, that seems to sum up our Roque.
Presty On Tour Posted January 30, 2008 Posted January 30, 2008 in the LT, cruz has increased his target to 20 goals this season after reaching the initial 15 goal mark he set himself at the beginning of the season
Eddie Posted January 30, 2008 Posted January 30, 2008 So only 5 goals between now and the end of the season?
T4E Posted January 30, 2008 Posted January 30, 2008 So only 5 goals between now and the end of the season? 5 goals in 14 games would be a decent enough return. It's not as if he has any Cup games to top his tally up.
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