brfcs5359 Posted July 30, 2007 Posted July 30, 2007 UEFA Cup 2nd Qualifying Rd 1st leg 16 Aug, 2nd leg 30th Aug. It will be seeded according to UEFA and Rovers are seeded. Last year it was an open draw but this year in the Intertoto and UEFA Cup 1st Qualifying Rd they introduced Northern, Central and Souther regions. Will this continue? More importantly will seeded teams play at home second and away first? Last year in this round that wasn't the case. Any clues?
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SuperStella Posted July 30, 2007 Posted July 30, 2007 It looks like in the next round, Rovers will get one from : - Unseeded teams Helsingborg IF * Swe Hammarby IF @ Swe BK Häcken * Swe MyPa-47 * Fin Metalurgs Liepaja * Lat Skonto Riga * Lat Suduva Marijampole * Lit Ekranas Panevezys * Lit HJK Helsinki * Fin Haka Valkeakoski * Fin Drogheda United * Irl
brfcs5359 Posted July 30, 2007 Author Posted July 30, 2007 So your saying there will be a Northern Section and we're likely to end up in Scandanavia? Will it be the seeded team away first leg?
brfcs5359 Posted July 30, 2007 Author Posted July 30, 2007 Just checked last years and it WAS regional games but seeded teams were drawn both home and away first leg; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Cup_2006-07
brfcs5359 Posted July 30, 2007 Author Posted July 30, 2007 Someone's just updated wikipedia for the 2007-08, wonders of the t'internet http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Cup_2007-08
brfcs5359 Posted July 30, 2007 Author Posted July 30, 2007 Is this corect then? 1. Ekranas / Northern Lithuania 2. Libertas OR Drogheda United 1-1 / San Marino or Dublin 3. Rhyl OR Haka 3-1 / Nth Wales or Valkeakoski 150 km north from Helsinki 4. MyPa EB OR Streymur 1-0 / Southern Finland or Eiði, larger village in the Faroe Islands 5. Dungannon Swifts OR S?duva 1-0 / County Tyrone in Northern Ireland OR Just over the Polish border in Lithuania! 6. Lillestrøm OR Käerjeng 97 2-1 / Lillestrom should be seeded if they go through OR Luxembourg 7. Liep?jas Metalurgs OR Dinamo Brest 1-1 / Riga and a drive to the coast OR just over the Polish Border in Belarus 8. Helsingborg / Near Malmo and **** Trelleborgs *** 9. Keflavík OR Midtjylland 3-2 / Reykjanes peninsula in Iceland OR Denmark, fly to Copenhagen & drive 10. Häcken OR KR Reykjavík 1-1 / Gothenberg OR Iceland 11. St Patrick's Athletic OR Odense Boldklub 0-0 / Dublin OR Denmark, fly to Copenhagen & drive 12. HJK Helsinki OR Etzella Ettelbrück 2-0 / Helsinki OR Luxembourg SEEDED (11 teams in Northern Section) Blackburn Rovers Standard Liège Dunfermline Athletic AaB Aalborg Fredrikstad Hammarby Dinamo Minsk AIK Stockholm Brann Vålerenga PLUS ONE MORE
Daremz Posted July 30, 2007 Posted July 30, 2007 Dunnagon Swifts will do. We(my team in Holland, friendly match), played them last season and we only lost 2-0. Can't see why Rovers would lose to a team in that class-class. And then, in the first UEFA-cup round (before the group phase will start), give us Mlada Boleslav. Europe here we come? A trip to Holland would be nice. Although...I'm coming England to finally watch us anyways!
Lathund Posted July 30, 2007 Posted July 30, 2007 I really really hope for Häcken, and for two reasons: They got relegated last year, and are now a mid-table team in the second division. Very easy game for us (And yes, I know about Trelleborg ), and secondly because I live in Gothenburg.
Drunx2002 Posted July 30, 2007 Posted July 30, 2007 Hacken or OB Odense would do me too. Visited Gothenburg last summer - £10 flight from Stansted. Great city, lovely people, cool stadium, easy to get around. Odense is not that attractive but one of my mates lives there
Hughesy Posted July 30, 2007 Posted July 30, 2007 I think an Ireland trip would be best for most rovers fans - a weekend in Dublin sounds good!!
Ricky Posted July 30, 2007 Posted July 30, 2007 Jamie don't forget about the teams playing in the first qualifying round. Think you might have looked at the same list as me which assumes that the team with the higher coefficient will be in the 2nd round. Obviously this wont be the case. We wont actually know the full list until thursday when the second legs of the first qualifying round have been played.
SuperStella Posted July 30, 2007 Posted July 30, 2007 Yep, cheers mate. Anywhere on the Emerald Isle please!
skiporovers Posted July 30, 2007 Posted July 30, 2007 would have loved to play Glentoran but it looks like AIK will walk past them but Drogheda would do nicely!
rover_groo Posted July 30, 2007 Posted July 30, 2007 Dunnagon Swifts will do. We(my team in Holland, friendly match), played them last season and we only lost 2-0. Can't see why Rovers would lose to a team in that class-class. And then, in the first UEFA-cup round (before the group phase will start), give us Mlada Boleslav. Europe here we come? A trip to Holland would be nice. Although...I'm coming England to finally watch us anyways! Aye, and it's only about 40 mile away from me. Wouldn't be a big allocation of tickets for that match and would certainly be a sell-out as would Drogheda or St. Pats. The Glens look as though they've run their course. Big Gary Hamilton plays up front for them and so far has managed about 8 or so goals in pre-season for them.
SuperStella Posted July 30, 2007 Posted July 30, 2007 I've been to St Pats before, in a pre season friendly. Not a very big ground....
Lee Posted July 30, 2007 Posted July 30, 2007 but there was the worlds largest bar next door, that place was like a tardis
Finch Posted July 30, 2007 Posted July 30, 2007 Is this corect then? 1. Ekranas / Northern Lithuania 2. Libertas OR Drogheda United 1-1 / San Marino or Dublin 3. Rhyl OR Haka 3-1 / Nth Wales or Valkeakoski 150 km north from Helsinki 4. MyPa EB OR Streymur 1-0 / Southern Finland or Eiði, larger village in the Faroe Islands 5. Dungannon Swifts OR S?duva 1-0 / County Tyrone in Northern Ireland OR Just over the Polish border in Lithuania! 6. Lillestrøm OR Käerjeng 97 2-1 / Lillestrom should be seeded if they go through OR Luxembourg 7. Liep?jas Metalurgs OR Dinamo Brest 1-1 / Riga and a drive to the coast OR just over the Polish Border in Belarus 8. Helsingborg / Near Malmo and **** Trelleborgs *** 9. Keflavík OR Midtjylland 3-2 / Reykjanes peninsula in Iceland OR Denmark, fly to Copenhagen & drive 10. Häcken OR KR Reykjavík 1-1 / Gothenberg OR Iceland 11. St Patrick's Athletic OR Odense Boldklub 0-0 / Dublin OR Denmark, fly to Copenhagen & drive 12. HJK Helsinki OR Etzella Ettelbrück 2-0 / Helsinki OR Luxembourg SEEDED (11 teams in Northern Section) Blackburn Rovers Standard Liège Dunfermline Athletic AaB Aalborg Fredrikstad Hammarby Dinamo Minsk AIK Stockholm Brann Vålerenga PLUS ONE MORE Are you saying we could get Trelleborgs? Because if so, I would like to get a draw against them and put the ghost of that tie to rest. The fact that we are still talking about it shows how it still haunts us. It worked for Stuart Pearce in the Euro 96 penalty shoot out, it can work for us.
SIMON GARNERS 194 Posted July 30, 2007 Posted July 30, 2007 Agree that the ghost of Trelleborg needs to be battered once and for all......the dingles still go on about that defeat to this day accompanied with a grin like a chesire cat!
McClarky Posted July 30, 2007 Posted July 30, 2007 No we can't draw Trelleborg. Helsingborg are 6-0 up after their first leg against someone else. I'd rather avoid them, expecially if Henrick Larrson is playing. Rhyl or Dungannon would be good, both look favourites to go through.
brfcs5359 Posted July 30, 2007 Author Posted July 30, 2007 UEFA CUP RANKINGS 07/08 Ctry Rd Club co-efficient ESP 1st Villarreal CF 78.374 GER 1st FC Bayern München 73.64 NED 1st AZ Alkmaar 63.995 GRE 1st Panathinaikos FC 55.415 SUI Q2 FC Basel 1893 * 54.869 FRA Q2 Lens 51.706 FRA 1st FC Girondins de Bordeaux *** 49.706 GER 1st Bayer 04 Leverkusen 45.64 BEL 1st Club Brugge KV * 45.638 ITA 1st US Città di Palermo 42.808 ENG 1st Tottenham Hotspur FC 40.618 ESP 1st Real Zaragoza 40.374 ROU 1st AFC Rapid Bucuresti * 40.255 RUS 1st FC Lokomotiv Moskva * 38.92 RUS Q2 FC Zenit St. Petersburg 38.92 FRA 1st FC Sochaux-Montbéliard * 36.706 ENG Q2 Blackburn Rovers 36.618 NED 1st SC Heerenveen 35.995 GER Q2 Hamburger SV 34.64 ENG 1st Bolton Wanderers FC 32.618 SRB Q1 FK Partizan 31.256 AUT Q2 FK Austria Wien* 30.104 UKR Q2 FC Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk 29.726 ITA Q2 Sampdoria 28.808 POR 1st SC Braga 27.107 TUR Q2 Galatasaray SK 26.791 ESP 1st Getafe CF ***** 25.374 SPA Q2 Atlético Madrid 25.374 ENG 1st Everton FC 24.618 ITA 1st ACF Fiorentina 21.808 ITA 1st Empoli FC 21.808 FRA 1st Stade Rennais FC 20.706 BUL Q2 PFC CSKA Sofia 20.112 ISR Q2 Hapoel Tel-Aviv FC * 19.338 BUL Q1 PFC Litex Lovech ** 19.112 GRE 1st Panionios NFC 16.415 POR Q2 União Leiria 16.107 DEN Q1 Odense BK * 15.129 NED 1st FC Groningen 14.995 GER 1st 1. FC Nürnberg * 14.64 BEL Q2 R. Standard de Liège 14.638 ISR Q1 Maccabi Tel-Aviv FC 14.338 POR 1st CF Os Belenenses 14.107 POR 1st FC Paços de Ferreira 14.107 CZE 1st FK Mladá Boleslav 13.851 SVK Q1 FC Artmedia Petralka 13.575 GRE 1st Aris Thessaloniki FC 13.415 ROU Q2 CFR Economax Cluj-Napoca 13.255 ROM Q2 Oelul Galai 13.255 NED 1st FC Twente 12.995 POL Q1 Groclin Grozisk Wielkopolski * 11.609 NOR Q1 Vålerenga IF 11.509 SCO 1st Aberdeen FC 11.064 BUL Q2 PFC Lokomotiv Sofia 10.112 AUS Q2 Rapid Vienna 10.104 SCO Q2 Dunfermline Athletic FC ** 10.064 UKR 1st FC Metalist Kharkiv 9.726 DEN Q1 FC Midtjylland 9.129 SUI Q2 FC Sion 8.869 CZE Q2 FK Jablonec 97 ** 8.851 TUR Q2 Kayseri Erciyesspor ** 8.791 GRE 1st Larissa FC * 8.415 SUI Q1 BSC Young Boys 7.869 CRO Q1 HNK Hajduk Split 7.533 DEN Q2 Aalborg BK 7.129 NOR Q2 Fredrikstad FK * 6.509 NOR Q1 Lillestrøm SK **** 6.509 NOR Q1 SK Brann 6.509 ISR Q2 Maccabi Netanya FC 6.338 SRB Q1 FK Vojvodina 6.256 SRB Q1 FK Bezanija 6.256 AUT Q1 SV Ried 6.104 AUT Q1 SV Mattersburg 6.104 HUN Q1 MTK Budapest 5.675 POL Q1 GKS Bechatów 5.609 CYP Q1 Anorthosis Famagusta FC * 5.492 HUN Q1 Budapest Honvéd FC * 4.675 SWE Q1 AIK Solna 4.478 SVN Q1 NK Gorica 4.272 GEO Q1 FC Dinamo Tbilisi 3.98 SVK Q1 FC Vion Zlaté Moravce * 3.575 CRO Q1 NK Slaven Koprivnica ** 3.533 CYP Q1 AC Omonia 3.492 SWE Q1 BK Hacken **** 3.478 SWE Q1 Helsingborgs IF * 3.478 SWE Q2 Hammarby 3.478 FIN Q1 Myllykosken Pallo-47 **** 3.42 MDA Q1 CSF Zimbru Chisinau * 3.365 SVN Q1 FC Koper * 3.272 BIH Q1 NK iroki Brijeg * 3.19 BIH Q1 NK Zrinjski 3.19 MKD Q1 FK Vardar * 2.925 LVA Q1 SK Liepájas Metalurgs * 2.86 LVA Q1 Skonto FC 2.86 FIN Q1 HJK Helsinki * 2.42 FIN Q1 FC Haka 2.42 LTU Q1 FK Sduva * 2.42 LTU Q1 FK Ekranas 2.42 MDA Q1 FC Nistru Otaci 2.365 IRL Q1 Drogheda United FC 2.145 IRL Q1 Saint Patrick’s Athletic FC ** 2.145 GEO Q1 FC Ameri Tbilisi * 1.98 LIE Q1 FC Vaduz * 1.98 MKD Q1 FK Rabotnicki 1.925 ISL Q1 Keflavík * 1.65 ISL Q1 KR Reykjavík 1.65 BLR Q1 FC Dinamo Brest * 1.54 BLR Q1 FC Dinamo Minsk 1.54 ALB Q1 KS Besa * 1.265 ALB Q1 KS Teuta 1.265 EST Q1 JK Trans Narva 1.21 EST Q1 FC Flora 1.21 ARM Q1 FC Banants * 1.155 ARM Q1 FC MIKA 1.155 AZE Q1 PFC Neftchi 1.045 AZE Q1 MKT Araz ** 1.045 KAZ Q1 FC Alma-Ata * 0.77 KAZ Q1 FK Aktobe 0.77 KAZ Q2 Tobol Kostanay 0.77 NIR Q1 Glentoran FC 0.715 NIR Q1 Dungannon Swifts ** 0.715 WAL Q1 Carmarthen Town AFC * 0.66 WAL Q1 Rhyl FC 0.66 MLT Q1 Hibernians FC * 0.55 MLT Q1 Sliema Wanderers FC 0.55 LUX Q1 FC Etzella Ettelbrück 0.55 LUX Q1 UN Kaerjeng 97 ** 0.55 FRO Q1 B36 Tórshavn * 0.55 FRO Q1 EB/Streymur 0.55 MNE Q1 FK Rudar Pljevlja * 0 MNE Q1 FK Buducnost Podgorica 0 AND Q1 FC Santa Coloma * 0 SMR Q1 SP Libertas ** 0
Ste B Posted July 30, 2007 Posted July 30, 2007 Thats only correct up until press. Theres also at least 2 teams who will be seeded above us after the teams from the 3rd Qualifying round of the Champions league (thats assuming that all the seeded teams win) See http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/seedcl2007.html For the uefa cup, the seeding is explained http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/seeduc2007.html Assuming we qualify for the group stages, its highly likely we will end up in pot C, with as already mentioned a reasonable chance of ending up in pot B assuming 3 higher ranked clubs get beat We would need about 6 champs league seeds to be knocked out, and all the 1st round games to go to plan for us to end up in pot D,
Lathund Posted July 30, 2007 Posted July 30, 2007 Are you saying we could get Trelleborgs? No he's saying exactly what he wrote, that the city of Helsingborg is near Malmö and Trelleborg. Oh btw, the s is only there when you use the full name - Trelleborgs FF, Helsingborgs IF etc. Otherwise just Trelleborg or Helsingborg.
seahawkdad Posted July 31, 2007 Posted July 31, 2007 So here's a very selfish question. I'm coming over in August form the states and will be in Blackburn on the 15th. My hopes were to see the home opener. But it looks like that will be postponed due to the UEFA Cup qualifying rounds. First part of the question: is this true? Second part: if so, what are the dates of the next home qualifier? thanks mates.
philipl Posted July 31, 2007 Posted July 31, 2007 Does the 2nd qualofying round generate points for UEFA seeding purposes? Anyone know?
philipl Posted July 31, 2007 Posted July 31, 2007 Looking further ahead, here is an article asking whether Rovers can win the UEFA Cup.
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