Tyrone Shoelaces Posted December 9, 2008 Posted December 9, 2008 Jesus, when you put it like that it is bad news. Where have you been for the last three weeks ? On the dark side of the moon ? Some of us have seen this coming, how is it you and the rest of the Ince fan club haven't ?
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Presty On Tour Posted December 9, 2008 Posted December 9, 2008 In the long run I think it was good for us that west ham lost tonight. I can't see spurs being in a relegation dog fight towards the end of the season and west ham with their issues are going to struggle this season.
American Posted December 9, 2008 Posted December 9, 2008 Spurs move 5 clear of us now. 6 if you take our goal difference into account. 3 points now means we still are in the bottom 3. INCE HAS TO GO!! TRIS you need to realise this! I thought he was already definitely going, based on that board meeting you said they had that Nicko said isn't until today.....
ffan Posted December 10, 2008 Posted December 10, 2008 Wicked Rumour... West Ham...Whisper it quietly but they could be going into administration as soon as Friday.
sussexrover Posted December 10, 2008 Posted December 10, 2008 That might be interesting - who else gets the sickening feeling that if that happened we might be sat here like the Sheff United fans when the Premier League find some reason not to deduct West Ham 10 points...
T4E Posted December 10, 2008 Posted December 10, 2008 Wicked Rumour... West Ham...Whisper it quietly but they could be going into administration as soon as Friday. Wow.........thats big news for Blackburn Rovers. If that happens on Friday, we win on Saturday and they get a 10 point deduction on Monday, suddenly things look far far rosier in the Rovers garden. I hope you're right.
Hannah Posted December 10, 2008 Posted December 10, 2008 That might be interesting - who else gets the sickening feeling that if that happened we might be sat here like the Sheff United fans when the Premier League find some reason not to deduct West Ham 10 points... To be fair are there another two teams who are worse than us at the moment? We need three teams to go into administration at the moment to give us a fighting chance!!!
Blue blood Posted December 10, 2008 Posted December 10, 2008 Even if West Ham do get deducted 10 pts for going in to administration (although I believe it's against FA regulations) and West Brom continue to do dire - who else is weaker than us at the moment. On paper player for player I reckon 4/5 at least but on our current performance I can't see a third team who'll save us from the drop.
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted December 10, 2008 Posted December 10, 2008 I can't see us making up 10 points on West Ham !
sambo Posted December 10, 2008 Posted December 10, 2008 I can't see Stoke doing too well - yes they've picked up some points but they really are going to have a dire away record. Albion may be gone.
ffan Posted December 10, 2008 Posted December 10, 2008 Phillipl, your inbox is full so I don't know if you got my response. Cheers.
philipl Posted December 10, 2008 Posted December 10, 2008 Phillipl, your inbox is full so I don't know if you got my response. Cheers. Got it thanks. Now understand.
RibbleValleyRover Posted December 11, 2008 Posted December 11, 2008 No wonder there is rumours of West Ham going bust: Lucash uspets West Ham by asking for a pay rise "Lucas Neill has angered the West Ham United board by demanding a pay rise to stay at Upton Park. The West Ham captain is already one of the highest-paid players at the club, on £70,000 a week, but wants improved terms for a further two years to sign an extension to a contract that runs out in the summer. " "West Ham were stunned to learn of the player’s demands for a pay rise in the midst of their financial crisis and rejected them flatly, with Neill likely to be forced to accept a huge pay cut if he wants to stay at the club. The former Blackburn and Millwall right back will be offered no more than £30,000 a week and if he rejects the terms be allowed to leave on a free transfer next summer. "
Hughesy Posted December 11, 2008 Posted December 11, 2008 Its funny because when he left he kicked off with us and said it wasnt just for the money!!! Yeah ok Lucash!
thenodrog Posted December 11, 2008 Posted December 11, 2008 Its funny because when he left he kicked off with us and said it wasnt just for the money!!! Yeah ok Lucash! 30k per week! How will he manage?
T4E Posted December 11, 2008 Posted December 11, 2008 Phillipl, your inbox is full so I don't know if you got my response. Cheers. Got it thanks. Now understand. Anything you guys would be prepared to share? Is there any further news on this WHU thing?
philipl Posted December 11, 2008 Posted December 11, 2008 WHU are in deep trouble. The administrators of the parent are interested in getting intercompany cash back and might have an interest in seeing WHU go into administration to break a number of contracts and obligations. WHU are all but unsaleable with the Sheff U situation steadily going against them and no deal yet struck out of Court. WHU will probably stagger on into January when there is likely to be a substantial clear out, particularly of Egghead's over-paid players like Lucash, Bellamy and Upson but they need cash as well as cost reductions so Green and Ashton would probably go as well. So administration is a very real and present risk but not the most likely outcome at present. Having said that, there might be something unpleasant hiding in the Upton Park paperwork which could trigger an administration- no way of knowing until after the administrators have arrived.
T4E Posted December 11, 2008 Posted December 11, 2008 Has the Sheff U compensation amount been defined yet? When is it payable by?
RibbleValleyRover Posted December 11, 2008 Posted December 11, 2008 Has the Sheff U compensation amount been defined yet? When is it payable by? £30 million? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...ed-failure.html "That is despite the severe financial problems of West Ham owner Bjorgolfur Gudmundsson and the £30million penalty hanging over the club for Sheffield United's compensation claim for relegation from the Premier League."
T4E Posted December 11, 2008 Posted December 11, 2008 I thought as much. And I'm sure I read the other day that Sheff U had successfully prevented WHU from appealling to CAS. So whats the hold up?
philipl Posted December 11, 2008 Posted December 11, 2008 I thought as much. And I'm sure I read the other day that Sheff U had successfully prevented WHU from appealling to CAS. So whats the hold up? You are correct. The three man arbitration panel has started hearings to determine the amount of compensation. West Ham have secured open books on Sheff U to see if they are fibbing about the amount they have lost and Sheff U have reserved their position up to £50m arguing second season losses should be considered seeing as it has taken so long to get to discussing the amount to be paid. At the same time, West Ham have started talks with Sheff U to see if an out of Court settlement can be agreed. If nothing is agreed between the clubs, the arbitrators have indicated they will make their determination of the award by March next year. West Ham have the added problem that following the ruling going against them, there are 17 other parties arguing they lost money also- people like Warnock and the players pressing loss of earnings, Wigan, Fulham and Charlton who argue they lost £500K per place prize money and Bolton for some reason reckon they have a case over a Tevez-inspired defeat which I think is going a bit too far. No doubt Rovers are watching to see if Bolton prevail!
T4E Posted December 11, 2008 Posted December 11, 2008 ..........so how long from there will they get to pay?
philipl Posted December 11, 2008 Posted December 11, 2008 The arbitrators will decide that timing no doubt after representations from WHU but in theory, you shouldn't go to arbitration if you don't have access to the cash to settle immediately if you lose.
ffan Posted December 11, 2008 Posted December 11, 2008 I believe that Charlton would certainly fight for every penny they could get, which is understandable given their situation.
Anti-Dingle-Brigade Posted December 11, 2008 Posted December 11, 2008 If Bolton get anything, we should dive in there. We could have reached Europe if it wasn't for that game (Actually, did we still make it? I can't remember). Not only did Tevez play, he was involved in one of the most controversial goals in the Premier League.
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