[Archived] Other Premier League Happenings

[Majiball]

did we not get 1M for him?

[alexanders]

did we not get 1M for him?

According to Wiki: His performances on loan again caught the eye of Kenny Dalglish, who had recently been appointed manager of Newcastle United. Given signed for the North-east club in the summer of 1997 for a fee of £1.5 million, having played two games for Blackburn Rovers.

[thenodrog]

We would have been idiotic not to when he was arguably the best young keeper in Britain, yet to break through. Or did we lose him on a free? Cant recall.

I bet Celtic are asking the same questions.

btw I may be wrong but I've a feeling that the 1m or so that we got from Newcastle was the decision of a tribunal of some sort.

[thenodrog]

Must say that I find Boro's stance very meritable. I hope they prevail by sticking to their guns and the pressure from Downing / Spurs / Spurs arsewipe media contacts and make him stay till summer. They are in big debt but Gibson is obviously nobody's door mat.

Anybody see any comparison with our transfer dealings of the summer? I'm not criticising any individual at BRFC because we/'ve had a superb couple of decades since JW came in, but some of the decisions made at Ewood suggests that the person with the Rovers best interests and the person who posseses the ultimate power of decision do not appear to be the same individual.

I still maintain that when Ince came in there should have been no departures of contracted players considered until now at the very earliest. He would prob agree now too.

[philipl]

Must say that I find Boro's stance very meritable. I hope they prevail by sticking to their guns and the pressure from Downing / Spurs / Spurs arsewipe media contacts and make him stay till summer. They are in big debt but Gibson is obviously nobody's door mat.

Anybody see any comparison with our transfer dealings of the summer? I'm not criticising any individual at BRFC because we/'ve had a superb couple of decades since JW came in, but some of the decisions made at Ewood suggests that the person with the Rovers best interests and the person who posseses the ultimate power of decision do not appear to be the same individual.

I still maintain that when Ince came in there should have been no departures of contracted players considered until now at the very earliest. He would prob agree now too.

That was exactly what Ince said two days after his appointmkent with specific reference to Bentley. A week later it was Ince who wanted Bentley out of the club.

[BiggusLaddus]

We would have been idiotic not to when he was arguably the best young keeper in Britain, yet to break through. Or did we lose him on a free? Cant recall.

We lost him to a tribunal (remember those!) after we couldn't agree a fee. I think we were reported to be holding out for something like £6m, as we knew how good he'd be.

[Presty On Tour]

CR7 Ferrarri written off

According to the BBC news, he's ok and still went training.

[gazsimm]

CR7 Ferrarri written off

According to the BBC news, he's ok and still went training.

he managed to dive out just before the crash!!!!!!!

[CrazyIvan]

he managed to dive out just before the crash!!!!!!!

Did he stand up looking around to see if he won the penalty?

[LeftWinger]

he managed to dive out just before the crash!!!!!!!

Having seen the way he writhes round in agony when someone brushes past him - I can only imagine the hysterical state he was in after that.

[RovertheHill]

Having seen the way he writhes round in agony when someone brushes past him - I can only imagine the hysterical state he was in after that.

Alex Ferguson was quoted as ranting "It's a disgrace the lack of protection we get from barriers these days who are just out there to stop us driving. That's a straight red card. Someone's going to get seriously hurt and the FA should do something about it. The lad is a great talent and if they don't clamp down on barriers just going out to stop him driving we'll end up pushing him away from this country. To that lot probably"

Or not.

[Hughesy]

Must say that I find Boro's stance very meritable. I hope they prevail by sticking to their guns and the pressure from Downing / Spurs / Spurs arsewipe media contacts and make him stay till summer. They are in big debt but Gibson is obviously nobody's door mat.

Anybody see any comparison with our transfer dealings of the summer? I'm not criticising any individual at BRFC because we/'ve had a superb couple of decades since JW came in, but some of the decisions made at Ewood suggests that the person with the Rovers best interests and the person who posseses the ultimate power of decision do not appear to be the same individual.

I still maintain that when Ince came in there should have been no departures of contracted players considered until now at the very earliest. He would prob agree now too.

Meritable?? More like stupid. £14m for Downing is crazy money. They are in deep troubl and have no cash, that £14m could buy them 2 or 3 very decent players that could be the difference between going down and staying up.

[philipl]

Meritable?? More like stupid. £14m for Downing is crazy money. They are in deep troubl and have no cash, that £14m could buy them 2 or 3 very decent players that could be the difference between going down and staying up.

OK Boro need 2 or 3 very decent players, ditto Rovers, ditto Newcastle, West Brom, Stoke and Hull all of whom are reported to have around £12m each to spend this window.

Here is my list of 12 to 20 players available for sale at £3m to £5m wanting average Premier League wages who are very decent Premier League players and will be very happy to go to any of the above named clubs:

Etherington

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[Balwer]

Meritable?? More like stupid. £14m for Downing is crazy money. They are in deep troubl and have no cash, that £14m could buy them 2 or 3 very decent players that could be the difference between going down and staying up.

Agreed, sticking to your guns is all well and good in the perfect world. But sadly principles don't put money in the manager's hands, and that's what Boro needs right now. Downing is good, but he's not 14m good, and they need the money more than we need Santa's money.

[DeadlyDirk]

Did we insert a sell-on clause?

To be honest if it was a tribunal then I'm not sure if its even possible for them to insert a sell on clause.

If we agreed the price then I'd be very surprised if we didn't insist on one considering his potential, however it was so long ago I'm not sure if these sort of clauses would have expiry dates on or not?

Would be great if we had some random 50% clause though and City pay about £12 million for him!

[philipl]

To be honest if it was a tribunal then I'm not sure if its even possible for them to insert a sell on clause.

If we agreed the price then I'd be very surprised if we didn't insist on one considering his potential, however it was so long ago I'm not sure if these sort of clauses would have expiry dates on or not?

Would be great if we had some random 50% clause though and City pay about £12 million for him!

Yes it was a tribunal and the fee we got was exceptionally high for a tribunal.

Didn't Given go to Newcastle shortly after teacher and GL coach Terry Gennoe went to Newcastle following a messy break-up of his marriage whilst living in the Blackburn area?

Part of Sparky's we've bid for everybody and nobody is selling bit this morning was a denial of City bidding for Given so all a bit academic.

[DeadlyDirk]

Yes it was a tribunal and the fee we got was exceptionally high for a tribunal.

Didn't Given go to Newcastle shortly after teacher and GL coach Terry Gennoe went to Newcastle following a messy break-up of his marriage whilst living in the Blackburn area?

Part of Sparky's we've bid for everybody and nobody is selling bit this morning was a denial of City bidding for Given so all a bit academic.

Actually Hughes quote was, 'I don't think there's been a bid for Shay Given.'

How would he know, he's probably had to throw all of his toys out of the pram for them to let him bid for Roque.

[den]

The Premier league and the FA, are to launch another inquiry into West Ham's behaviour over the Tevez affair.

What's all that about?

[trs]

SSN.... Premier lge and FA to launch fresh inquiry in to West ham's conduct in Carlos Tevez affair.

[gazsimm]

The Premier league and the FA, are to launch another inquiry into West Ham's behaviour over the Tevez affair.

What's all that about?

not this again, i thought this was put to bed a long time ago. Lets hope the hammers get found guilty of something and get a points reduction!!

[T4E]

OK Boro need 2 or 3 very decent players, ditto Rovers, ditto Newcastle, West Brom, Stoke and Hull all of whom are reported to have around £12m each to spend this window.

Here is my list of 12 to 20 players available for sale at £3m to £5m wanting average Premier League wages who are very decent Premier League players and will be very happy to go to any of the above named clubs:

Etherington

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Hughesy didn't mention them having to be Premier League players. Take your point though.

[den]

The cynical side of me, suspects it's a way of heading off the Sheff Utd judgement?

Got nothing at all to back that up though.

[T4E]

Other than bitter experience.

[den]

The Premier League and The FA are to institute a joint inquiry into the views expressed by the Independent Arbitral Tribunal chaired by Lord Griffiths in September 2008, which dealt with a compensation claim by Sheffield United against West Ham United brought under FA Rules. The joint inquiry will examine whether the conduct of West Ham United immediately after the Independent Disciplinary Commission’s decision of 27 April 2007 amounted to further breaches of Premier League or FA Rules.

Sounds like the FA are looking into whether or not Wham had the right to go to CAS?

[philipl]

SSN.... Premier lge and FA to launch fresh inquiry in to West ham's conduct in Carlos Tevez affair.

This is getting serious.

I pointed out at the time that the Arbitrators report which I extensively gave links to was not primarilly concerned about West Ham's activities PRIOR to the fine of £5m being levied.

What the arbitrators did find conclusively was that West Ham broke the FA and Premier League rules AGAIN after having been fined.

So there is a whole new set of offences which West Ham's current owners and management are guilty of and I asked when the arbitration report was issued, why were the FA and Premier League not launching a completely new disciplinary hearing.

Why now? Being cynical....

Well there are 14 clubs in the Premier League in a relegation battle facing a potential minimum £30m loss if they go down- it needs 14 clubs to make major decisions.

Also the Premier League are obviously keen not to see a PL club go into administration. There are a lot of very frustrated clubs extremely concerned by the way West Ham are conducting themsdelves this transfer window. Unlike Pompey, West Ham seem to be gambling on not selling players putting Pompey who are handling their crisis responsibly at a distinct disadvantage.

West Ham have also tried to use every avenue available to them ratcheting up everybody's costs to avoid the Shef U verdict.

Now all the statements coming out of the club indicate that if they raise £8m in this window, they will pay their "interest" and not be insolvent.

They actualluy have debts of £50m, a lot of which are football transfer debts which it seems they have no intention of paying, let alone provisioning for paying Sheffield United when the amount is determined in March nor anything for the 18 other football-related law suits pending all except one of which can reasonably expect to be lost by West Ham.

If I were any of the creditors or claimants against West Ham, I would be totally alarmed by the current conduct of the CEO and Directors, many of whom are named in the arbitrators report incidentally in less than flattering references.

Going to extremis, the question has to be asked whether a company in administration with an insolvency/winding up hearing scheduled can be deemed to be a "fit and proper" owner of a Premier League club when individual uncleared bankruptcies do disbar owners/directors of clubs.

den, it has already been established that as a member of the FA, West Ham are bound by the rules of the FA which meansd they accepted there was no recourse to CAS when they agreed to submit to the FA's arbitration procedure.