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[Tom]

Still reading that thread and laughing, they're so blinkered and apparently they should be prouder than Chelsea fans, correct me if I'm worng but didnt Chelsea win over 2 legs fairly?

Bizarre stuff

[Amo]

Pride = Defence mechanism.

[DE.]

I fail to see where their "pride" is coming from... okay it was a good attacking performance, but despite scoring four they also CONCEDED four! They were 2-0 up and ended up 3-2 down? They got it to 4-3 and then let in another goal. Some of the idiots saying they're in tears over such an amazing performance or whatever... and every poster has to add that the game was "justice for the 96" ... it wasn't, really, was it?

It makes everybody on here seem far more reasonable.

[Hughesy]

In reality - 2-0 up 3-3 on agg after 30 mins - they should be annoyed that their club couldnt keep it tight and knick another while they had the confidence on thier side.

[DE.]

If they hadn't allowed Chelsea to batter them 3-1 in the first leg they may have gone through. They're acting hard done by, but only have themselves to blame.

Well in lads. In tears at the moment.

thought it was gonna go to 9-6 for a moment there

Amazin performance boys. couldnt have asked for anything more

dare anyone to tell me im wrong.

The Black Knight never gives up. I feel as if we won this game.

Fair play, would hate to win games with the kind of cheating seen by Chelsea tonight. Utter disgrace to the game they are.

I am so ###### proud of the lads, went out there and never gave up. Each and ever single on of them is an inspiration, unlike the ones in blue - who spent most of the time on the floor.

I'm convinced Rafa is the man to take us into a decade of domination

Sensational. This is the only club worth putting your heart and soul into. We're magic. So proud. Fantastic effort, men.

I can't remember a match where a so-called loser should be prouder... since perhaps the fictional 'Adrian!'

what a performance. under different circumstances we would never have gave half those goals away, and won the game. absoltely superb. we will win the league after that performance.

(Please don't use that word again) you Chelsea, you might be through, but we're the ###### winners tonight. Pride, heart and we'd be in the last 4 if it wasn't for that ubercunt Dropba and his ###### diving. How on earth has he not been kicked in yet?

(Please don't use that word again) the result. We were the real winners tonight.

Proud of the boys and the club, I would rather go out with dignity , than go through in shame like the diving cheating Chelsea.

And that's just from the first 3 of 22 pages

[jumpin']

I rarely add comment to these here threads but today I must. Vinjay616 did you know that football started before murdoch got in charge? do you understand the tribal elements of football? Why should Rovers consider Man utd our main rivals? Distance? History? Economical ties? 2 years in the '90's? Our hatred towards that lot over t'other side of Accy is deeper. Be it when Rovers fans stoned the incoming sharra, or walked off the turf in the 1890's BCE. Or when they took the roof off the darren end 90 years later. Some Rovers fans despise how the butcher let Stanley whither in the 1960's. Why did you get banned in the fost place anyroad? If you want to "hate" manyoo, follow Liverpool. By the way, Man. Utd. started on their way by following the Blackburn Rovers example. Rovers will never be manyoo and I hope they never will. Learn the history and understand why its bunly & not anyone else.

[Eddie]

Why can we only have on rival? Why can't rivalries develop and adapt. To say that any modern Blackburn fan should view Accrington Stanley as more of a rival than United is laughable. I'm all for knowing your history and appreciating it, but you also have to accept that a football fan will dislike sides that his club actually plays and not simply ones where the matches were heated over a century ago.

[jumpin']

If thats a reply to my post Eddie, I'm sorry but I think you misunderstood. My relating to Stanley, comes from the belief around east Lancashire, that Bob Lord could've saved Stanley in the 60's. And from personal conversations with elder football fans, pre 1950's style eg. that strenghtened the bitterness towards Burnley. I would never consider Stanley a rival, with all due respect, because from my background, Stanley have affectionate 'support' from a large swathe of Rovers fans, in which Burnley could never have. Since I've been following (1982), my father (circa 1945), my grandmother (circa 1910), and my great-grandfather (1894), all I've known is that Burnley are our only rivals. These aren't credentials but thats what has been handed down. Manchester United are modern day fans rival, unless you have historical ties with them, ie Liverpool, City, Leeds, Oswaldtwistle Rovers etc. Lots of fans don't like MU, due to the "damned utd" aura about them, but for me, its nothing compared to that team we now play occassionally.

[neekoy]

Why can we only have on rival? Why can't rivalries develop and adapt. To say that any modern Blackburn fan should view Accrington Stanley as more of a rival than United is laughable. I'm all for knowing your history and appreciating it, but you also have to accept that a football fan will dislike sides that his club actually plays and not simply ones where the matches were heated over a century ago.

I do agree somewhat, the Liverpool V Chelsea one is certainly a shining example. I would disagree though to the point that I dislike Burnley and class them as a hated rival because as a Rovers supporter thats what is done. Even if I have no understanding of the deep hatred that exists between the two towns.

It is like the football rivalry between Germany and England, or cricket between Australia and England, history is what makes the rivalry so strong and important.

EDIT: oh, and those Liverpool supporters are a joke. Scored four, CONCEDED four, thats what lost it for you ######. None of them commented on the soft Liverpool penalty either.

Here's to another trophyless year

[philipl]

Two great posts by jumpin' putting beautifully exactly why its Rovers v Burnley.

That of course does not diminish despising the Mancs with a passion no ignore the intense feelings of Roverites with notlob or PNE intermingling to live with but there is only one all consuming rivalry.

Will be interesting to see how Man U and Arsenal go tonight- I suspect at least one will be a casualty.

I fancy Chelsea to be much more competitive at the Camp Nou than most on here are anticipating and having Cashley suspended will probably help them. Anything to keep Chelsea distracted when we go to Stamford Bridge on the penultimate day of the season.

[alexanders]

When I had a tour at Ewood Park, Ronnie Clayton showed us the boardroom. In that boardroom around on the wall hung "logo-shields" of almost every club in England. On specific place hung Burnley and Scum United - this was the place where it didn't show when the door was open. Ronnie Clayton himself had hung both of them there and said he disliked them both and that they deserved to be hidden by the door and not show.

Pardon my disturbingly bad english, but if anyone catches what I am trying to say maybe they can say it in a better way.

The point for sure is that there are two main rivals.

[roverthemoon]

When I had a tour at Ewood Park, Ronnie Clayton showed us the boardroom. In that boardroom around on the wall hung "logo-shields" of almost every club in England. On specific place hung Burnley and Scum United - this was the place where it didn't show when the door was open. Ronnie Clayton himself had hung both of them there and said he disliked them both and that they deserved to be hidden by the door and not show.

Pardon my disturbingly bad english, but if anyone catches what I am trying to say maybe they can say it in a better way.

The point for sure is that there are two main rivals.

Burnley are our historical rivals. Man Utd were never rivals just the most disliked.

[yoda]

Learn what? How to hypocritically change rivals (i.e the break with tradition thread is highly ironic considering the 90's) and switch back again for no apparent reason?

I've always regarded Man United as rivals and one season in 2000-2001 isn't going to change that.

You are still wet behind the ears in terms of supporting the Rovers, November 5th 1875 the Rovers came into being with the upstarts down the road trying to steal our name in 1882 as a rugby club (Burnley Rovers) but they changed to football and have been playing catch up ever since.

If you had been around in the 70's and 80's you might have a better understanding of the rivalry, wonderfully carried on, on April fools day 8 years ago.

[DE.]

Ask any Man Utd fan who their rivals are and unless you're talking to a suporter that's just awoken from a 15 year coma none of them will say Blackburn. To consider them rivals just makes us look kind of sad.

[Guest Vinjay606]

I guess Fulham can't call Chelsea rivals then since Chelsea don't care about them. Man United had a long list of established rivals before BRFC were rejuvenated most of whom continued to rival them at the top level. So BRFC are hardly going to hit the top of their list.

Jack Walker used the term "new Blackburn Rovers" to illustrate that the club has moved on. Dosen't mean he was disrepecting the club's history.

If people are trying to say BRFC fans never hated Man United read my signature. Oh and in other articles White referred to them as "arch rivals" also. I think people know White was a good representative for the fans unless people are going to call him a liar.

When I started supporting this club there was mentions of a past rivalry but the only impression I got was that it was now defunct. I don't see why that changed based on one season. At least I've kept the same rivals throughout my support of this club rather than changing it when position suits. There's nothing wrong with changing rivals when it makes sense either but I won't be criticised for refusing to hate a club I didn't care about in 97-98 and don't care about in 08-09.

What type of perception does it give to younger fans comparing BRFC to such a lesser club? The majority of clubs normally consider the biggest club within local boundaries to be rivals. Man United were referred to as local rivals on the headline page here following the last league fixture at Ewood.

Man United are also a threat to local support far more so than a lower league club. Perhaps that's the case with Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal but they aren't considered local...well some might say Liverpool is. People should be ancouraging an anti-Man United feeling in the town. I'm tired of seeing youngsters in Man United shirts round Blackburn because they haven't been encouraged to hate them from birth by Rovers fans.

I have no doubt that if BRFC was in Evcerton's location many fans would be calling Tranmere main rivals. It's a mentality issue. Jack Walker's mentality was to "think big" and that's the same mentality I've had since the day I started supporting Blackburn Rovers Football Club.

[DE.]

Problem is, you're a somewhat tedious wind up so I have no interest in debating with you. Somebody else will probably take the bait though, good luck.

[Hughesy]

Teams I hate:

Burnley, Bolton, United (Local or rivals in my time)

Liverpool, Birmingham, Arsenal, Tottenham - for one reason or another I dont like them. Brum because they believe they are a MASSIVE club, Tottenham because they annoy me and they are the media darlings, Arsenal because they are all wimps and cheats and Liverpool because their supporters brag and go way over the top if they ever win anything.

[Gareth]

Teams I hate:

Burnley, Bolton, United (Local or rivals in my time)

Liverpool, Birmingham, Arsenal, Tottenham - for one reason or another I dont like them. Brum because they believe they are a MASSIVE club, Tottenham because they annoy me and they are the media darlings, Arsenal because they are all wimps and cheats and Liverpool because their supporters brag and go way over the top if they ever win anything.

Also Newcastle simply because they think they're a lot bigger and better than what they really are.

[67splitscreen]

Not totally on topic, but could have been.

Anyway one of the managers linked with Rovers in the summer gets the chop after 7 months in charge at Spartak.

So it's not just the Premiere league where clubs can't wait for the results to come, after a poor finish to the season, exit from the cup, no place in Europe signals the end for Michael Laudrup.

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[American]

He wasn't the messiah, he was a very naughty boy.

[Manc Rover]

Sir Alex has just been having another go at Rafa and this time it involves us:

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[CrazyIvan]

Sir Alex has just been having another go at Rafa and this time it involves us:

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Blimey, I don't think Rafa is Fergies favourite person is he? It was a nothing incident but I can understand why Sam feels aggrieved by it. It was dismissive and contemptuous but whether that was his intention remains to be seen.

[Cally]

Haha, Ferguson accusing others of arrogance and contempt, the irony is delicious. He's clearly rattled. Shame on Allardyce for deliberately mis-interpreting the incident to deflect from his own limitations, while helping out his mate, Fergie, against the dirty foriegner taking all our jobs.

[T4E]

He wasn't the messiah, he was a very naughty boy.

Michael, not Brian.

[Guest Vinjay606]

Has nothing to do with Ferguson. If BFS feels aggrieved about arrogant attitudes then Ferguson is the last person he needs speaking on his behalf.