[Archived] Other Premier League Happenings

[Presty On Tour]

Tonight's game was incredible.

[Hughesy]

Glad the scousers didnt win.

[Rovermatt]

United champs again.

[Bing]

Care to tell us who you're implying shouldn't be sat on our bench at the moment?

Was just a general point about how our team looks to be being set up at present with size and strength valued over talent and ability.

Specifically, Carlos would be the obvious name to mention. There is no reason (besides Big Sam's hoofball dogma) why he couldn't be played in a wide position, told to fill in when we lose the ball and then be relatively free to go central and get involved once we are in possession - as for example Everton do with Arteta.

[Guest Kamy100]

Glad the scousers didnt win.

We needed them to win today so that they still feel that they are in the championship race as they play Hull on Saturday.

[neekoy]

United champs again.

I don't know why people are rushing to make this asssumption, as it sits Liverpool is top of the table, United still need to get points from two games yet to play. It is not like they have been setting the world on fire lately.

Whilst I think United will probably win the league, it will be because Liverpool can't stop goals being scored against them and not from United being a superior team.

[Shaddy]

Whilst I think United will probably win the league, it will be because Liverpool can't stop goals being scored against them and not from United being a superior team.

Um... but ManU can stop goals being scored against them. Doesn't that make them the superior team? Liverpool's attack is better, but ManU's attack is good as well as having better defense. That makes them better balanced and superior in my books (and to my chagrin). Especially if they win the title (which looks very likely now).

[modes98]

We needed them to win today so that they still feel that they are in the championship race as they play Hull on Saturday.

They still have to win, they have to win every game. Equally their form is such that I can't see them not putting 5 or 6 past Hull.

[rover6]

I know Liverpool have been scoring goals for fun recently but I tell you, take Arsene Wenger out of the Premier League and the English game is far, far poorer.

For all his myopic delusions, the guy has football ideals, which include a duty to entertain (most of the time).

Admirable, also, is his club's insistence on a certain wage structure. Emmanuel Petit recently found fault with this, insisting that Arsenal can't compete unless they pay higher wages - his argument slightly weakened by his examples of supposed great recent player losses, Hleb and Flamini (neither of whom are truly outstanding).

[Guest Vinjay606]

I know Liverpool have been scoring goals for fun recently but I tell you, take Arsene Wenger out of the Premier League and the English game is far, far poorer.

For all his myopic delusions, the guy has football ideals, which include a duty to entertain (most of the time).

No manager has a "duty" to entertain anyone aside from their own supporters.

[Hughesy]

We needed them to win today so that they still feel that they are in the championship race as they play Hull on Saturday.

I think it only increases the importance to Liverpool. Lose and they are defintley out of it, they will still want to keep the pressure on, and I would expect them to go on a strong run now.

As for Arsene Wenger - When was the last time Arsenal won the a trophy? (04-05?) He is probably the only manager that can get by year after year without winning anything at a top club and survive. For the money he has spent he should of achieved more.

[LeChuck]

Was just a general point about how our team looks to be being set up at present with size and strength valued over talent and ability.

Specifically, Carlos would be the obvious name to mention. There is no reason (besides Big Sam's hoofball dogma) why he couldn't be played in a wide position, told to fill in when we lose the ball and then be relatively free to go central and get involved once we are in possession - as for example Everton do with Arteta.

So really it was just like many posts on here recently - having a dig just for the sake of it since it has no real foundation. If you're comparing Villanueva to Arshavin then it's even worse than I thought.

Carlos doesn't play on the wing because he makes Tugay look like Speedy Gonzalez. There's probably a decent player in there somewhere, but not in the Premiership.

[T4E]

Carlos doesn't play on the wing because he makes Tugay look like Speedy Gonzalez. There's probably a decent player in there somewhere, but not in the Premiership.

Are you sure about that? At worst, he's at the MGP level where he could go a couple of seasons being pretty anonymous but grabbing a few goals. With the shot/set piece ability he's got, he will score goals if he gets a run in the side.

[Hughesy]

Agree with T4E - to me Villanueva has bags of ability, we just need a better system which will allow him to sparkle. Next season, 2nd season in prem, better midfield around him, and maybe a pacey attack would see much more from him. I think we should try to extend his loan or reduce the fee so its heavily reliant on appearances/ goals etc.

[LeChuck]

Pedersen is decent in the air and covers a hell of a lot of ground. I don't doubt his set piece ability but I'm just not sure what else he could bring to the Premiership given his physical limitations.

[Hughesy]

Pedersen whilst tries hard, just has lost his confidence completely. He needs a fresh start.

We had a great chance to equalise at Stoke, he had got past his full-back and instead of playing a simple ball along the ground, he smashed it over everyone in the box.

[neekoy]

Pedersen is decent in the air and covers a hell of a lot of ground. I don't doubt his set piece ability but I'm just not sure what else he could bring to the Premiership given his physical limitations.

He reminds me of a young Zola

[blue/white]

He reminds me of a young Zola

I hope you mean Emile, Neekoy.... b/c besides their surnames there's not a thing

Morton Gamst shares w/ the great Italian.

[Tom]

Did he not mean Carlos reminds him of a young zola?

I'm lost

[Gus Gus]

Pompey lost tonight, that's good, that's good.

[blue/white]

Did he not mean Carlos reminds him of a young zola?

I'm lost

sorry.... jumped the gun a bit there--

But i'll maintain that a Carlos /Zola comparison is not any better.

[Anti-Dingle-Brigade]

United 0-2 Tottenham. Interesting.

And Big Club 1-0 Preston = bad. Burnley are pretty certain of a play-off spot now.

2 sent off for Brum. Probably a fight, one from either team.

United 2-2 Tottenham.

Big Club 1-1 Preston.

United 3-2 Tottenham.

Vinjay must be weeping.

[Iceman]

2-2 now in the United vs Spurs game. Good game this!

Oops make that 3-2. Champions stuff this from United

4-2 now United, Spurs completely losing it now lol

[brfcshabba]

United helped by Webb,

4-2

Iceman - You're behind!!!

[leftfooter]

United helped by Webb,

4-2

Terrible decision by Webb. Bad result for us - let's hope Liverpool aren't totally drained of Title motivation by the time they play Newcastle.