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[herbergeehh]

Rubbish when Mido set off for that long through ball Clichy was behind him

No, he wasn't. See here.

and Mido had his eyes on the ball the whole time. There was no intent whatsoever

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Fair enough, no intent - but he certainly knew Clichy was there.

btw u ever played footy herhergeeh? If so tell me how you can get your chest on a ball thats a yard away from your body and then go on to let me know how you can control a 40 yard punt with your head!

Yes, I have. I would start by getting into the right position, had he not decided to use his feet to control the ball, he would have had the time to battle fairly with Clichy for it. Controlling the ball with the head is obviously difficult, but he could easily try to pick out someone else with the header. (or just extend it)

I would think the referee will use the "serious foul play", but I haven't filled out those forms once in my life, so I wouldn't know. As for Clichy, he will be allright, but boots to head doesn't necessarily end up like it did this time. I tend to agree that a yellow card might be sufficient though, but not sure what the rules say about things like this. As mentioned, van Persie (?) was sent off for a similar thing earlier in the season.

[brfcshabba]

Birmingham winning 1-0.

[thenodrog]

Fair enough, no intent - but he certainly knew Clichy was there.

Thats that then. Not a red card offence. Halsey will surely struggle to justify that decision as 'serious foul play'.[edit]

According to the laws on Wikipedia the nearest charge is an indirect free kick for dangerous play.

Here

Indirect free kick offenses

Fouls punishable by an indirect free kick are:

When a goalkeeper, inside his own penalty area:

takes more than six seconds while controlling the ball with his hands before releasing it from his possession

touches the ball again with his hands after it has been released from his possession and has not touched any other player

touches the ball with his hands after it has been deliberately kicked to him by a team-mate

touches the ball with his hands after he has received it directly from a throw-in taken by a team-mate

When any player in the opinion of the referee:

commits an offside offence

plays in a dangerous manner

impedes the progress of an opponent

prevents the goalkeeper from releasing the ball from his hands

commits any other offense, not previously mentioned in Law 12, for which play is stopped to caution or dismiss a player.

A big club would get this overturned but the likes of Boro might see a repeat of the ludicrous review of Alliadiere's red card with Mascherano getting off scott free. A decision so pathetic that I dont even think that anybody at the FA can ever have bothered to view the video.

[Wiggy]

Birmingham winning 1-0.

I'm watching this match and it is as dire football as I have seen in this league for years. It is an event if one team manages to put three passes together before losing possesion. The Mags have no shape, no passion, no fight and no idea. Wor Kev's going to need all his alleged motivational skills to drag them out of this. To be a fly on the wall at half time.

[JAL]

Thats that then. Not a red card offence. Halsey will surely struggle to justify that decision as 'serious foul play'.[edit]

According to the laws on Wikipedia the nearest charge is an indirect free kick for dangerous play.

Here

Indirect free kick offenses

Fouls punishable by an indirect free kick are:

When a goalkeeper, inside his own penalty area:

takes more than six seconds while controlling the ball with his hands before releasing it from his possession

touches the ball again with his hands after it has been released from his possession and has not touched any other player

touches the ball with his hands after it has been deliberately kicked to him by a team-mate

touches the ball with his hands after he has received it directly from a throw-in taken by a team-mate

When any player in the opinion of the referee:

commits an offside offence

plays in a dangerous manner

impedes the progress of an opponent

prevents the goalkeeper from releasing the ball from his hands

commits any other offense, not previously mentioned in Law 12, for which play is stopped to caution or dismiss a player.

A big club would get this overturned but the likes of Boro might see a repeat of the ludicrous review of Alliadiere's red card with Mascherano getting off scott free. A decision so pathetic that I dont even think that anybody at the FA can ever have bothered to view the video.

The referee had two options with this incident and he chose red, either way red or yellow the referee was right, only if he had chosen not to do anything would the referee have been in the wrong.

These things happen in football were an incident has two solutions, either one is correct, only non action by a referee is unacceptable, i think the footballing public need to know this when they are being critical of officials.

[Roar of the Rover]

3. Why was the free kick given for Lpool for Torres goal? Same match Mascherano.... What sort of a goal celebration is someone who speaks spanish as his native tongue sucking his thumb before screaming (Please don't use that word again)k off, Fukck off to no one in particular? Thank God he's only scored one this season.

Free kick or not, Torres did really well to get away from his marker and score.

[herbergeehh]

Got to say, Newcastle looked better in parts today. Until Keegan picked off Martins, who was stretching Birmingham's defense.

Too bad Owen scored, would have been a tough loss to handle for King Kev and the Geordies.

[philipl]

Newcastle v Fulham is going to be a massive game. If Newcastle win that they will be fine but if Fulham get something out of it the bottom opens up with two relegation places up for grabs.

Huge challenge for Woy- this will really show if he is a master coach or not.

By the way, I have been thinking La Liga this year has been pretty bad but Sid Lowe absolutely slates the standard of football in Spain in his Guardin blog this morning and virtually nobody is posting in its defence.

[Wiggy]

Got to say, Newcastle looked better in parts today. Until Keegan picked off Martins, who was stretching Birmingham's defense.

Too bad Owen scored, would have been a tough loss to handle for King Kev and the Geordies.

Second half they were much better, maybe there is something in Keegan's motivational powers. What Capello made of the overall standard of football beggars belief, how many times did either side just hoof the ball up in the air? Made our lot look like Brasil.

[herbergeehh]

By the way, I have been thinking La Liga this year has been pretty bad but Sid Lowe absolutely slates the standard of football in Spain in his Guardin blog this morning and virtually nobody is posting in its defence.

I haven't seen enough to comment, but it is a British newspaper blog, anything but "Premier League is far superior" isn't expected, is it?

[philipl]

Sid Lowe is based in Spain and writes generally on La Liga for international consumption.

He has said how fantastic it is when its been good and now is calling it dire. Blog here.

[American]

Haven't been able to watch it this year, but I agree that Sid generally loves the Spanish game.

[thenodrog]

Free kick or not, Torres did really well to get away from his marker and score.

Might have known you'd turn up and see no wrong in a typical 'big club / homer ref' decision in favour of your favourites.

[thenodrog]

The referee had two options with this incident and he chose red, either way red or yellow the referee was right, only if he had chosen not to do anything would the referee have been in the wrong.

These things happen in football were an incident has two solutions, either one is correct, only non action by a referee is unacceptable, i think the footballing public need to know this when they are being critical of officials.

I've no idea what you mean.

BUT

Boro have been done! Must have had Halsey on a spike and traded that for a few 'get out of goal' cards for future use. I'm quite suprised Gael Clichy hasn't absolved Mido of blame..... must have been acting under his managers orders.

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_3319058,00.html

I still cannot understand what offence Mido has been charged under.

[AlanK]

Not quite premier league and I wasn`t sure where to put this but:

Have they not got anything better to worry about. Incredible.

[only2garners]

I've no idea what you mean.

BUT

Boro have been done! Must have had Halsey on a spike and traded that for a few 'get out of goal' cards for future use. I'm quite suprised Gael Clichy hasn't absolved Mido of blame..... must have been acting under his managers orders.

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_3319058,00.html

I still cannot understand what offence Mido has been charged under.

I'm with you nodrog. For once I agreed with Alan Shearer's comment on Match of the Day. If that was a sending off then anyone who does a bicycle kick will have to be sent off as well.

[JAL]

I've no idea what you mean.

BUT

Boro have been done! Must have had Halsey on a spike and traded that for a few 'get out of goal' cards for future use. I'm quite suprised Gael Clichy hasn't absolved Mido of blame..... must have been acting under his managers orders.

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_3319058,00.html

I still cannot understand what offence Mido has been charged under.

What i mean is with the Mido incident the referee had two options to get it right, if hed given a yellow to Mido he wouldnt have been wrong either.

Theres not many incidents in a football game that the referee can have two correct outcomes but that was one of them. Interpretations eh, surely us football fans are old enough to know this rather than lambast the ref.

[Jim J]

What a game at WHL tonight, just watched the highlights, very entertaining and Spuds should have won it in the last minute.

[AggyBlue]

What a game at WHL tonight, just watched the highlights, very entertaining and Spuds should have won it in the last minute.

Yeah, I watched it live, edge of the seat stuff. Now if all games were like that.....

[Jim J]

Ashley Cole should have been sent off for his tackle, and his attitude when he got booked was awful, just hope no kids look at him as a role model.

[Roar of the Rover]

Might have known you'd turn up and see no wrong in a typical 'big club / homer ref' decision in favour of your favourites.

Like I said ' Free Kick or not', Why can't you admit Torres did well?. He's awesome.

[AggyBlue]

Like I said ' Free Kick or not', Why can't you admit Torres did well?. He's awesome.

Because he plays f'ot red @#/?

[RibbleValleyRover]

I can't see Grant being the Chelsea manager next season.

Chelsea don't play better, more attractive football under him, its the same system and style that they played under Mourinho. Mourinho though is a far better tactician than Grant, Grant made major mistakes in the final of the League Cup, and again last night with some of his substitutions.

[LeChuck]

Chelsea don't play better, more attractive football under him

Odd that you should say that after a 4-4 draw.

[RibbleValleyRover]

Odd that you should say that after a 4-4 draw.

That's just one game. Take a look at a lot of their results over the season plenty of 1-0 scorelines.