[Archived] Other Premier League Happenings

[Hughesy]

Either support your club, or clear off! Its that simple guys. If your just going to slag them off, then they would be better off without you.

John Williams is no mug, like some - not many agreed with him when he brought Hughes in, but was he wrong then too?

[den]

Either support your club, or clear off! Its that simple guys. If your just going to slag them off, then they would be better off without you.

John Williams is no mug, like some - not many agreed with him when he brought Hughes in, but was he wrong then too?

Why don't you make a point Hughesy, like who you're addressing and what you disagree with.

There's a few on here who could give you lessons on how to support "our" club.

[Exiled in Toronto]

Williams can't do anything until the manager leaves though, can he?

Au contraire - the other half of his huge responsibility is to sack a manager who is failing. If he didn't sack Souness when we were clearly in freefall - a major failing in my view - he certainly won't be sacking Ince for a 3-3-3 record, contrary to the wishes of some other posters.

[roversmum]

I have it on good authority that Souness's demise as our Manager was very close at the time of his departure from Rovers.

[Hughesy]

Why don't you make a point Hughesy, like who you're addressing and what you disagree with.

There's a few on here who could give you lessons on how to support "our" club.

Please do give me that lesson then - are you one of those that could? As for 'who im Addressing', its not aimed at 1 person in particular, its aimed at those that seem more intent on slagging the club than getting behind them and supporting them.

As for JW Sacking Souness - Correct he was 1 game away from the sack, Newcastle saved us millions and also gave us some on top! Id say that was pretty good going from JW - He heard the rumours of the Geordie Interest and held out for 1 more game, and it came off when Newcastle came calling.

[CrazyIvan]

I have it on good authority that Souness's demise as our Manager was very close at the time of his departure from Rovers.

I heard that rumour a few times around that time. I don't know how true they are but it does sounds like a distinct possibility. Souness, imo, HAD taken Rovers as far as he could unlike Hughes...

[den]

Please do give me that lesson then - are you one of those that could? As for 'who im Addressing', its not aimed at 1 person in particular, its aimed at those that seem more intent on slagging the club than getting behind them and supporting them.

I don't know if I'm one Hughesy. All I do know is that all you do, is slag off anyone who doesn't share your views and accuse them of not being as good a supporter as yourself.

[DingleBaiter]

Yup - we DID do a George Donis when we fleeced Newcastle.

JW was away at the time, but they'd made a tacit decision to consider replacing Souey, but only considering. Call came into TF from Newc, he deferred to JW and JW decided on a compo sum. Newc came in and offered substantially more than our target figure, TF played for time, called JW back and said the equivalent of 'snap their hands off to be rid of the t*sser'.

BTW we should always be eternally grateful to the Geordies, not only did they take Souey off us, not only did they compo us, but they enabled us to bring Mark Hughes. Jolly well done chaps.

[CrazyIvan]

Yup - we DID do a George Donis when we fleeced Newcastle.

JW was away at the time, but they'd made a tacit decision to consider replacing Souey, but only considering. Call came into TF from Newc, he deferred to JW and JW decided on a compo sum. Newc came in and offered substantially more than our target figure, TF played for time, called JW back and said the equivalent of 'snap their hands off to be rid of the t*sser'.

BTW we should always be eternally grateful to the Geordies, not only did they take Souey off us, not only did they compo us, but they enabled us to bring Mark Hughes. Jolly well done chaps.

We did get the best of that deal by a long stretch...

[thenodrog]

Please do give me that lesson then - are you one of those that could? As for 'who im Addressing', its not aimed at 1 person in particular, its aimed at those that seem more intent on slagging the club than getting behind them and supporting them.

So unless we all regurgitate your opinions ad infinitum we should simply stop posting eh? Be really interesting on here ...... I don't think.

[Hughesy]

Get back to your golf

[Hughesy]

Adams appointed the new Pompey Manager

[deefus]

Adams appointed the new Pompey Manager

The shortage of money must be true then as they've gone for the cheap option.

BTW, should I class Adams as an ex-League 2 manager therefore the club is doomed to failure?

Or as a promotion from assistant manager therefore the club is doomed to failure?

[LeChuck]

Adams appointed the new Pompey Manager

I'll be very surprised if he's still there come the end of the season.

Can anyone remember the last time an assistant stepped in to replace a departing manager and continued to bring the success of the previous regime?

[DingleBaiter]

I'll be very surprised if he's still there come the end of the season.

Can anyone remember the last time an assistant stepped in to replace a departing manager and continued to bring the success of the previous regime?

Even more strange is had the ceremony today to grant Rubber-face Redknapp 'freedom of the city' in Portsmouth. It's a wonder they didn't chase him out....

Just goes to show, sometimes things that trouble us aren't really that bad in the scheme of things. Was it Wycombe Adams was at for a while?

To answer your question, what about the old Liverpool 'boot room'? Agree though, it's the exception rather than the rule.

[philipl]

I think there are a number ofindications that Adams is going to make avery good manager now he hassorted his demons out.

He will certainly be under pressure at Pompey as they have about £20m of debt remaining they would prefer to have cleared off and they need to get their wages down by about £10m a year as well.

He will probably need to wheel and deal in January when Harry takes a few high earners of his hands and he goes shopping in the sort of places Rovers are used to going to.

[92er]

Here's what I don't understand: for years now you have been tirelessly (and tirsomely) singing the praises of John Williams as the greatest living football chairman. The one thing he has to get right to earn his rather large salary, in fact more than everything else put together, is choosing and enticing the right manager. You clearly seem to think Ince is not the man. So where do you stand on the chairman, who had a good 6 months notice that Hughes was going to jump ship, as did we all who saw that famous guppy response to the Newcastle vacancy question.

Simon Jordan the owner of Crystal Palace is trying to sell up this season. I read a rather interesting article in which he argued that it is possible to make money out of football as long as you employ the right manager-he quoted Ferguson as an example. He also went on to say that the wrong manager, conversely, can moke the owner/chairman look extremely stupid.

It will become clear over time if Ince is a good appointment. If he is not, I would not be inclined to sack JW. Indeed I fear what will happen to the club when he moves on.

[CrazyIvan]

If he is not, I would not be inclined to sack JW. Indeed I fear what will happen to the club when he moves on.

Me too!

[BRFC1995]

Speak for yourself doomsday merchant. Id be happy with a 8th-10th finish based on our current side.

agree totally, why are people so focused on us being relegation fodder after 9 games. Ain't it more common for fans to be optimistic glass half full type people.......seriously no clue as to the big downer quite a few board members are on. We are currently mid table and with the squad as is i expect to at least finish a few places higher certainly above.........Bolton,stoke,newcastle,wba,fulham,sunderland,wigan,boro and wham.......that would be an 11th place finish and very achievable with this team. I'd expect hull to capitulate at some point soon, i'd hope spuds go backwards again, pompey implode selling everyone and everton continue to play garbage..........which would then make a minimum 7th place look a realistic target.

There are 6 teams with more goalpower, and pace than all the others arse,chelski,scousers,manure,chitty, and villa. 7th is a very realistic target and 11th is definitely as low down as this squad can possibly finish.

[leftfooter]

I think there are a number ofindications that Adams is going to make avery good manager now he hassorted his demons out.

He will certainly be under pressure at Pompey as they have about £20m of debt remaining they would prefer to have cleared off and they need to get their wages down by about £10m a year as well.

He will probably need to wheel and deal in January when Harry takes a few high earners of his hands and he goes shopping in the sort of places Rovers are used to going to.

Since 'sorting his demons out', prior to 'Arry taking him under his wing, the Tony Adams CV reads:

1. Displays his serious, sensitive side to a fawning media when starting a sports science degree at Brunel University. He drops out and becomes manager at Wycombe Wanderers

2. Resigns from Wycombe citing 'personal reasons' after taking them down into Division 2 after his first season in charge.

3. A couple of jobbing short lived coaching jobs in the Netherlands.

I fail to see any indications that Adams 'is going to make a very good manager'. He might succeed in the short term, as he is inheriting a cleverly assembled and expensive squad. The media will give him an easy ride of course, because he's ex-Arsenal and English.

Any sort of success at all will lead to siren calls for Adams to be groomed as successor to Cappello.

In comparison to Adams, Martin O'Neil also started at Wycombe. Unlike Adams he was a success there. He also quietly earned a degree, without hawking his academic ambitions around the BBC and any other media outlet that would listen to him.

Another homely example is our very own Paul Ince, who also went to a small unfashionable lower league club to learn his trade. Unlike Adams at Wycombe, Ince saved Macclesfield from near certain relegation. He then went to another lower league club, taking MK Dons to Wembley and winning promotion with them.

It's funny to read therefore such an upbeat, almost 'Boys Own' assessment by you of Adams' credentials, when you are so stiff-necked and mealy mouthed with reference to Ince's own managerial prospects. Even more odd is your questioning of his abilities in the transfer market - even though Ince boasts a far superior CV to Adams.

As a Rovers fan, I'm happy to see one of our rivals appoint such an unqualified, introspective and vainglorious character.

[Majiball]

The shortage of money must be true then as they've gone for the cheap option.

By doing it they can keep the Arry compo and perhaps not sell a player in Jan?

To answer your question, what about the old Liverpool 'boot room'? Agree though, it's the exception rather than the rule.

But what an exception! I think Fergie was trying to do the same with Quiezroz (SP) at United, he must have got fed up waiting.

I'm not sold on Adams appointment he flunked at wycombe, Christ he even flunked Uni. I do wonder to his ability to handle pressure? Anyways its positive for us i can't see Pompey repeating last years feet's now and Spurs well they have a hard job ahead.

[thenodrog]

By doing it they can keep the Arry compo and perhaps not sell a player in Jan?

But what an exception! I think Fergie was trying to do the same with Quiezroz (SP) at United, he must have got fed up waiting.

I'm not sold on Adams appointment he flunked at wycombe, Christ he even flunked Uni. I do wonder to his ability to handle pressure? Anyways its positive for us i can't see Pompey repeating last years feet's now and Spurs well they have a hard job ahead.

Don't suggest that he had learning difficulty ffs majiball! They think it's an insult on here.

btw

feet's?

[CrazyIvan]

Don't suggest that he had learning difficulty ffs majiball! They think it's an insult on here.

btw

feet's?

Don't go there Gordon. You know what you said and so does everybody else.

I think he meant 'feats'...

[thenodrog]

Don't go there Gordon. You know what you said and so does everybody else.

I think he meant 'feats'...

Getaway.

btw I know precisely what I said. Are you sure you do or are you just part of the pack?

[CrazyIvan]

Getaway.

btw I know precisely what I said. Are you sure you do or are you just part of the pack?

You've tried deflecting every bit of well deserved criticism over what you said and downplaying it as a bit of a joke and what you said wasn't funny. I've never been part of 'the pack' but I've agreed with every bit of criticism you've received over what you said. I'm not going to say another word on it because I don't want to start it off again. You're best forgetting it too. 'Let sleeping dogs lie'...