philipl Posted September 10, 2008 Posted September 10, 2008 Well seeing as Hughes allegedly found it attractive and Ince might well do so too .......... what does that tell you about the BRFC job? Without doubt one of the best in the world. If Ince goes, the last four incumbents have improved their CVs and doubled their salaries on moving. How many other jobs are such wonderful launchpads?
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Fylde Coast Fan Posted September 10, 2008 Posted September 10, 2008 If there's legs to this - I'm fairly ambivalent. Ince has done an alright job so far - West Ham excluded - but if he's going to do one at the first opportunity then let him go now before he either screws up our season or proves himself to the point that it hurts to see him go.
Hughesy Posted September 10, 2008 Posted September 10, 2008 Sounds to me like more media junk trying to unsettle us again like they tried all summer.
Paulsman Posted September 10, 2008 Posted September 10, 2008 There is not a chance in hell that this Ince to Newcastle story is true. It was written by Alan Oliver, a writer who (since Freddy Shepherd left) has lost his insider at the club, and as you can clearly see, his main point of reference from the story is that he knows Wise. I'm actually of the opinion that if Newcastle don't appoint a manager by next Monday, it's likely that the talk of the Indian takeover has some truth to it.
Paul Posted September 11, 2008 Posted September 11, 2008 Newcastle United eye move for Paul Ince No criticism of you RVR as you're just the messenger but I have to ask why anyone who reads the MB is taking this the sligtest bit seriously? If it were to be true you'd have to say it goes further to prove what a basket case the EPL and Newcastle United, in particular, has become. Mr. Indian Investor "How many major trophies has your manager won?" Mike Ashley "None so far" MR II "Never mind, he's been in football for a long time?" MA "Oh yes, years as a player and now manager" Mr II "How long has he managed in the EPL?" MA "......................err 3" Mr II "Years?" MA" ..............err no, matches" Mr II "Goodbye" Come on guys lets have a bit of realism. I can understand Rovers taking a chance with Ince, in many ways it suits our style, but Newcastle United? They need big names.
dingles staying down 4ever Posted September 11, 2008 Posted September 11, 2008 So let me get this straight. They are going to see how he does in one game then make a decision about whether to make an approach? If it wasn't Newcastle I would say there is not one grain of truth but they are daft enough to do business that way!
philipl Posted September 11, 2008 Posted September 11, 2008 BBC gossip in full: Newcastle want Blackburn boss Paul Ince to be their new manager. (Daily Mirror) But Rovers are convinced Ince will not leave Ewood Park. (Daily Express) Newcastle owner Mike Ashley wants a new boss installed in time for Saturday's home game against Hull City. (The Sun) Tottenham first-team coach Gus Poyet, Zenit St Petersburg boss Dick Advocaat and Russia coach Guus Hiddink are all under consideration for the Magpies post. (Daily Telegraph) Ashley is set to watch the match against the Tigers from the St James' Park directors box, rather than his usual position in the stand alongside Newcastle fans. (Daily Express) Poyet has distanced himself twice from the Newcastle job and Advocaat and Hiddink are on massive wages with the Russians paying just 10% tax. That makes Ince the only realistic name there today.
Guest Kamy100 Posted September 11, 2008 Posted September 11, 2008 The Lancashire Telegraph are reporting that Paul Ince has resigned!! ONLY JOKING! They actually report the story about the betting odds on him falling and that Rovers senior management have declined to comment, however the Lancashire Telegraph understand that Rovers are treating this as a "none story".
modes98 Posted September 11, 2008 Posted September 11, 2008 I'm not suprised. He hasn't even had chance to decorate his office yet
Hughesy Posted September 11, 2008 Posted September 11, 2008 In the star there is also an article about them wanting Ince, however it says that they have made it clear he isnt available, however if Newcastle persist then they will go public to make it clear for them that he is going nowhere.
JC4LAB Posted September 11, 2008 Posted September 11, 2008 As Sparky said when he was linked to Newcastle some of these stories are leaked to the press to hide your real intentions...
Wild Irish Rover Posted September 11, 2008 Posted September 11, 2008 It just goes to show how few genuine candidates there are out there to take on management at Premiership level. If Newcastle really are considering a move for someone as inexperienced as Ince, that is a clear indication that their options are very very limited indeed. On the other hand it is probably more likely that this is just some bored journalist trying to stir up something newsworthy at a time when (post transfer deadline) the whole football scene is a no news zone. Lets face it, football is just boring at the moment, but Ince is not daft enough to jump ship from one of the safest / best run clubs in the game into a managerial suicide chair at the Toon.
Trickstar Posted September 11, 2008 Posted September 11, 2008 The trouble with the Newcastle job is that no top class manager will be interested with the current set up, they will want full control including transfers, so what they need is a really good coach with limited managerial experience that they can control like a puppet
thenodrog Posted September 11, 2008 Posted September 11, 2008 The Lancashire Telegraph are reporting that Paul Ince has resigned!! ONLY JOKING! Kamy thats not funny! I was half way to cracking open a bottle of champagne until I read the second line.
Billy Castell Posted September 11, 2008 Posted September 11, 2008 Who'd be your Ince replacement then Gordon? Who knows whether this story is true or not. Football has gone mad.
Dunnfc Posted September 11, 2008 Posted September 11, 2008 Alan oliver got his quote from Wikipedia, it says it the Newcastle rag that he quotes from Wikipedia....
Mr Creosote Posted September 11, 2008 Posted September 11, 2008 There is not a chance in hell that this Ince to Newcastle story is true. It was written by Alan Oliver, a writer who (since Freddy Shepherd left) has lost his insider at the club, and as you can clearly see, his main point of reference from the story is that he knows Wise. I'm actually of the opinion that if Newcastle don't appoint a manager by next Monday, it's likely that the talk of the Indian takeover has some truth to it. Alan Oliver is a clown. More of a cheerleader than a journo. Your talking rubbish, weaknesses have been highlighted in Inces armour that JW and co may have made the initial mistake with his appointment but this is an unbelievable get out of jail free card if it comes off. Cant see it coming off myself, but i'll judge Ince on the performance of the team and the size of the home crowd come this saturday for me these two equally important factors will show how much the Blackburn public have bought into the new mangement team. Hilarious!! You've never judged Ince on anything but your dislike of him. You have NEVER given him a game in which to prove himself and have been on his case from the off. Apparently he is responsible for the size of the gates!? Did you judge Hughes on that basis? Muppet.
gillibrand Posted September 11, 2008 Posted September 11, 2008 Why not have a vote on should we keep our manager or would we like him to go?
leftfooter Posted September 11, 2008 Posted September 11, 2008 Why not have a vote on should we keep our manager or would we like him to go? Further evidence, if any was needed, that you are corresponding from an internet enabled lunatic asylum.
thenodrog Posted September 11, 2008 Posted September 11, 2008 Further evidence, if any was needed, that you are corresponding from an internet enabled lunatic asylum. To another.....
gumboots Posted September 11, 2008 Posted September 11, 2008 Changing managers is not good for the club. Look at clubs who support their manager and stick with him until they really have gone as far as they can together. they are usually the most successful ones. clubs that chop and change are the ones that end up in a mess. I'm not a 100% fan of Ince but I do feel that those who are on his back already and would want him gone are wrong. The time to judge him is not yet and I for one would be very sorry if he were to go to Newcastle. It sends out all the wrong signals at this time. We need stability. We need chance for the players he has brought in to start to deliver. We need to keep the confidence he seems to be building in some of our younger players and the opportunities he seems to be giving them to continue. If we let our manager go to the notoriously unstable club that is Newcastle then we are heading in the wrong direction. Upheaval would follow. There are no guarantees that any new manager coming to Ewood would be any better and he could be a whole lot worse. There are not that many managers out there who would have an immmediate impact on our season and they'd still have to work till January with what we've got. Prices for us to buy players in January would probably be higher than normal because clubs would know our new guy was desperate to put his own stamp on the team.
JAL Posted September 11, 2008 Posted September 11, 2008 Alan Oliver is a clown. More of a cheerleader than a journo. Hilarious!! You've never judged Ince on anything but your dislike of him. You have NEVER given him a game in which to prove himself and have been on his case from the off. Apparently he is responsible for the size of the gates!? Did you judge Hughes on that basis? Muppet. I dont dislike Ince you clown, just highlighting weaknesses to the gullible ones like yourself. I've expressed how good the Grimsby game was, how good I thought Carlos Villaneuva was then being overwhelmed by the distinct lack of quality in the signings Ince is bringing into the club. One quality signing and the positivity returns as it currently stands this just hasnt happened yet thus the negative slant. Inces job is to up lift the club and its fans yet there are many like me still waiting.
LeChuck Posted September 11, 2008 Posted September 11, 2008 Changing managers is not good for the club. Look at clubs who support their manager and stick with him until they really have gone as far as they can together. Or oppositely, look at Bolton and Wigan last season. Both look destined for the drop after making horrendous appointments in the summer, but changed early and have gone from strength to strength. Although I don't like the man, Steve Bruce has been fantastic for Wigan and they could easily be this season's surprise package. Bolton are perhaps the best comparison though, they were trying to follow someone who had provided consistent top 8 finishes...and look how quickly they fell to relegation candidates simply by appointing the wrong man.
Hughesy Posted September 11, 2008 Posted September 11, 2008 Yeah but like it has already been said - there is a big gulf in the ability that bolton had start of last season, compared to us this season. Give Ince time, he hasnt done anything wrong yet. We lost to West Ham (But we havent won there for 13 years anyway), we won at everton, yet last season we only drew, we drew a tricky game against Hull, and beat Grimsby with ease (unlike Coventry/ Larissa last season)
LeChuck Posted September 11, 2008 Posted September 11, 2008 Yeah but like it has already been said - there is a big gulf in the ability that bolton had start of last season, compared to us this season. One could argue that it's the talent available to Ince from the Hughes era that is stopping us being relegation candidates. The standard Ince is bringing in is nothing like what Hughes did. 18-24 months down the line, when we have a team of mainly Ince players, we could easily be staring relegation in the face.
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