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stuwilky Champions League

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Surely then it would go to the runners up. Not sure though - it is very confusing.

Then what happens if Everton finish 4th and Liverpool win the Champions League? Liverpool qualify for the Champions League and Everton the UEFA?

Yes.

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it needs West Brom to stay in the Championship.
Aha - Now that's what i was wondering about. I know lower division teams have qualified before, but is it now the case that a lower league club can't qualify as runner up?

I vaguely remember something about it, but can't for the life of me remember the details.

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nicko World Cup

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Just spoken to the FA.

The FA Cup winners go into the UEFA Cup - unless it's Cardiff. Barnsley and West Brom can qualify.

If Cardiff win the FA Cup, then the runners-up miss out.

So, you basically want to become Cardiff fans for a while.

There is a potential extra place in the UEFA Cup - if an English team wins the UEFA Cup...and that's official.

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Just spoken to the FA.

The FA Cup winners go into the UEFA Cup - unless it's Cardiff. Barnsley and West Brom can qualify.

If Cardiff win the FA Cup, then the runners-up miss out.

So, you basically want to become Cardiff fans for a while.

There is a potential extra place in the UEFA Cup - if an English team wins the UEFA Cup...and that's official.

So Portsmouth would not qualify if they were runners-up to Cardiff?

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nicko World Cup

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So Portsmouth would not qualify if they were runners-up to Cardiff?

No. There is no place for a runner-up unless they lost to a team that was in the top four of the Premier League...

By the way, there could be a Fair Play place too. That table makes incredible reading.

As it stands Man U are top. Spurs, Liverpool, Arsenal and then Everton come next. So there's every chance that Manchester City would be the English side to benefit.

They score heavily for respect towards officials...which shows that old Sven obviously does not just charm the ladies.

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nicko World Cup

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Interesting to note a few of the stats in this.

Only Chelsea have more bookings than Rovers.

Rovers rated 7th in 'positive play' section.

But the 'behaviour of officials' is way below anyone else's and a stunning 26 points worse than Fulham's. I'm sure Lawrie Sanchez moaned more than anyone when he was in charge.

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Cardiff can't qualify for Europe as an English entrant as they belong to the FA of Wales...

So how does it work for Monaco? Do they belong to the FA of France?

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That table isn't even worth a passing glance to somebody who has played football rather than done a Stats course at nightschool. I can think of few teams that play the game fairer than BRFC. Even with just Bentley and Tugay guilty of the occasional dive we have no players who stay down play acting and feigning injury simply to get opponents cautioned or sent off.

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That table isn't even worth a passing glance to somebody who has played football rather than done a Stats course at nightschool. I can think of few teams that play the game fairer than BRFC. Even with just Bentley and Tugay guilty of the occasional dive we have no players who stay down play acting and feigning injury simply to get opponents cautioned or sent off.
We're too honest if anything, though we're clearly still living off the 'bully boy's' tag - just look at the bookings in the Fulham game.

Speaking of which, there was a moment in said game where they were breaking away and had us at a disadvantage numbers wise. Pedersen had an opportunity to bring the player carrying the ball down, but instead tried to get in a position for a fair tackle. I commented that L'Arse, Man Utd, Pompey etc wouldn't think twice about cynically bringing that player down.

We play the game hard, but fair. I just find officials laughable these days, especially in connection with Rovers.

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especially in connection with Rovers.

and poor Morten. The man wouldn't hurt a fly and yet he's been booked twice for being on the end of violent conduct.

Does anyone know what suspended fine, etc we have hanging over our heads for the last few years fair play performances?

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Blackburn: Fined £100,000 (including £70,000 suspended from 2005/06), with a further fine of £50,000 in place for the 2007/08 season.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/6960060.stm

That's not to bad then. I had this feeling that there may have been a warning about an even bigger fine and potentially looking at further punishment in the future.

Nicko re spurs you said earlier

There is a potential extra place in the UEFA Cup - if an English team wins the UEFA Cup...and that's official.

I would assume that if Everton or Spurs won the Uefa Cup then an extra spot would be allocated down the football league tree to 6th place. Meaning 7th was intertoto.

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I would assume that if Everton or Spurs won the Uefa Cup then an extra spot would be allocated down the football league tree to 6th place. Meaning 7th was intertoto.

Unless Spurs/Everton win the UEFA Cup AND Cardiff win the FA Cup - which would mean 7th would be UEFA spot and 8th Intertoto?

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nicko World Cup

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Nicko re spurs you said earlier

I would assume that if Everton or Spurs won the Uefa Cup then an extra spot would be allocated down the football league tree to 6th place. Meaning 7th was intertoto.

If Everton or Spurs win the UEFA Cup the fifth AND sixth teams would be in the competition. I suppose if Everton are fifth or sixth that also opens it up to the seventh team.

The team in eighth would go into the Inter Toto.

It would be a bit more exciting if it didn't look as though both would go out in midweek.

If Everton win the UEFA Cup and finish in the top four...well, that's another question.

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nicko World Cup

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To recap, as it stands:

Champions League...Arsenal, Man U, Chelsea and Liverpool.

UEFA Cup...Tottenham, Portsmouth/Barnsley/West Brom, Everton.

If Spurs or Everton win the UEFA Cup, then sixth place goes in.

If Cardiff win the FA Cup, then there's an extra place. So seventh place could go in.

InterToto...next.

Fair Play...currently Man City.

So there is still plenty of chance of Europe - but you would have to finish above Man City and probably Portsmouth - and then hope.

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