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Hmmmmmm! Let me see now; when did I stop attending at Ewood on a fairly regular basis? Oh yes I remember it was Dec 2005 West Ham match. And when did I start attending Ewood on a regular basis? Oh yes again I remember it was Nov 1946, Rovers v Grimsby. Admittedly I missed a few matches when I was in the RN from July 1951 to Feb 1955, and again whilst I was a student at college 1957-'60, but for all the rest I was a Regular attender at Ewood, and for years at as many away matches as circumstances allowed. Season ticket holder as well right through the '70's.

I have never bothered to try and add up how many matches that lot equates to, and quite frankly I can't be bothered to. But I do know it is a lot, so I don't think I owe them anything, and I would hazard a guess that there are very few members of this site that have seen as many Rovers matches live as I have. Not that it matters either. I dont claim to be a better supporter than anyone else, but please don't try and make cheap jibes at someone who has through old age and physical infirmity been reduced to watching on the TV instead of at Ewood. Believe me if I could get there, I would get there. I can't even make it to Dunfermline Athletic these days and they are only 8 miles away.

Totally not getting the point, Fife. You complain that the prices are so high and the players make too much money, yet you fund the league by paying for television subscriptions that help put more money in the league coffers. A bit hypocritical, if you ask me. If you really were against the money in the league, you wouldn't subscribe to the television package and go watch a low level team in the area that isn't available on tv.

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Totally not getting the point, Fife. You complain that the prices are so high and the players make too much money, yet you fund the league by paying for television subscriptions that help put more money in the league coffers. A bit hypocritical, if you ask me. If you really were against the money in the league, you wouldn't subscribe to the television package and go watch a low level team in the area that isn't available on tv.

This is extremely unfair. Why should he abandon all support of a team he has supported for over half a century just because he is against money in the league? Why should it have to come to that? One can argue that the expensive television subscriptions are as much of a product of there being more money in the game as the other way round. You can complain about there being too much money in the game and subscribe to Sky, the two aren't mutually exclusive. And Premiership football isn't the only thing on Sky now is it?

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I'm not saying he should abandon his support, I'm saying he should quit his whining and saying that he isn't going to support the game anymore, when he obviously is.

And, by the way, I'm speaking as a big baseball fan who has vowed never to attend a live game again after they went on strike in the mid-90s (ruining the greatest season in my lifetime, I might add). I never have, even though I've had some chances, including playoff games involving my favorite team.

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This is extremely unfair. Why should he abandon all support of a team he has supported for over half a century just because he is against money in the league? Why should it have to come to that? One can argue that the expensive television subscriptions are as much of a product of there being more money in the game as the other way round. You can complain about there being too much money in the game and subscribe to Sky, the two aren't mutually exclusive. And Premiership football isn't the only thing on Sky now is it?

The big clubs shafted the little clubs to form the Premier League - and dump the Football League. They did that for money. The rest followed on with their hands out for cash.

So everyone who wanted the money is to 'blame' for the millions that are splashing around.

But it's not a bad thing.

Would you rather have run-down grounds and people killed in crushes, shocking facilities for the ordinary [usually male], average football, players moving abroad to richer leagues?

There never was a Golden Age.

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Would you rather have run-down grounds and people killed in crushes, shocking facilities for the ordinary [usually male], average football, players moving abroad to richer leagues?

There never was a Golden Age.

terracing and grounds with a bit of charachter like roker park, baseball ground ,elm park to name but a few....back to football with passion and chanting ,swaying and being able to move round the end to wherever you want to stand.

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The big clubs shafted the little clubs to form the Premier League - and dump the Football League. They did that for money. The rest followed on with their hands out for cash.

So everyone who wanted the money is to 'blame' for the millions that are splashing around.

But it's not a bad thing.

Would you rather have run-down grounds and people killed in crushes, shocking facilities for the ordinary [usually male], average football, players moving abroad to richer leagues?

There never was a Golden Age.

I'm not one of these subscribers to the 'good old days' theory, to be fair I'm 22 so never experienced them and can't offer a proper balanced judgement. But it seems like there was plus points and minus points to both. The competition and changes in the hierarchy of the old days compared with the better facilities and players in our leagues at present probably are the two biggest plus points on either side.

I guess if there was a 'Golden Age' (and I'm not really saying it is, but just the closest thing to one) it probably would have been from around 1988-2000. I'm not just saying this as this encompassed the period where we won the league, but we had great facilities, some excellent players gracing our leagues and regular changes in the top 4. Not only were we up there but the likes of Leeds, Newcastle, Everton, Spurs, Nottingham Forest, Crystal Palace, Norwich City and Sheffield Wednesday all made their mark on the league in one way or another. Right now things have gone a bit too far towards the other side of the balance for my liking.

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Why not take a look at some of these in the olden days section? Apologies if you have read them already.

Olden Days section.

Thanks for the link, although there's a lot there I remember, I haven't seen many of them from back in the day and will definitely have a good browse. However, I'm sure it's no substitute for actually being there at the time!

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I'm not one of these subscribers to the 'good old days' theory, to be fair I'm 22 so never experienced them and can't offer a proper balanced judgement. But it seems like there was plus points and minus points to both. The competition and changes in the hierarchy of the old days compared with the better facilities and players in our leagues at present probably are the two biggest plus points on either side.

I guess if there was a 'Golden Age' (and I'm not really saying it is, but just the closest thing to one) it probably would have been from around 1988-2000. I'm not just saying this as this encompassed the period where we won the league, but we had great facilities, some excellent players gracing our leagues and regular changes in the top 4. Not only were we up there but the likes of Leeds, Newcastle, Everton, Spurs, Nottingham Forest, Crystal Palace, Norwich City and Sheffield Wednesday all made their mark on the league in one way or another. Right now things have gone a bit too far towards the other side of the balance for my liking.

It comes and it goes for the clubs outside the Big Four...Where were Wigan eight years ago? Bolton too. Look at the tables and there are clubs who have been up and back again - like Bradford City. It happens, it's not all bad these days and there are more pros than cons.

As for going back to crappy old grounds, no thanks. I'll give you safe terracing and better atmospheres as something you would want back, but not some of the dumps you used to have to go to.

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Talksport have named the starting team and Bentley aint in it!

I wonder if Fabio is just giving Beckham the stage to get his 100th cap, make a fool of himself and get rid of him...if not that is a ridiculous selection ahead of an in-form Bentley.

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