[Archived] Hughes Criticises Pl Foreign Manager Preference

[rover6]

I see that Hughes has been criticising the Premier League of 'snobbery' for overlooking British managers, opting for foreign names. He has suggested that "familiarity breeds contempt" with home-based managers. He recognises the talents of the foreigners over here but his argument seems to be, given the chance, the British could do as good a job - if not better. The problem being, they are not given the chance to manage big clubs.

What does everyone think?

I tend to disagree with Hughes. Sure, there are some good British managers, and some bad foreign ones (SVEN!) but the situation is that there are not very many decent British managers. Alan Curbishley often comes up with the same whinge about foreigners getting preference but he is in a weak position to argue this - after doing okay with CHarlton, he has been pretty poor at West Ham and will surely get the sack sooner or later.

Furthermore, Hughes' comments smack of hypocricy. So chairmen are unjustifiably opting for foreigners for short-term gain, and not "looking after their own."? What about managers who import sub-standard foreign players for short-term gain (Bruno f'ing Berner) and not giving British youth players a chance to come into their own.

Allardyce jested that if his name was Allardyci, he'd get a big job. Well......

[BuckyRover]

Sven Goran Eriksson's Record:

IFK Göteborg

Svenska Cupen Winners 1979, 1982

Allsvenskan Champions 1981, 1982

UEFA Cup Winners 1982

S.L. Benfica

Portuguese Liga Champions 1983, 1984, 1991

Cup of Portugal Winners 1983

SuperCup Cândido de Oliveira Champions 1989

European Cup Runners Up 1990

UEFA Cup Runners Up 1983

A.S. Roma

Coppa Italia Winners 1986

U.C. Sampdoria

Coppa Italia Winners 1994

S.S. Lazio

Coppa Italia Winners 1998, 2000

Italian Super Cup Winners 1998

UEFA Cup Winners' Cup Winners 1999

UEFA Super Cup Winners 1999

Serie A Champions 2000

:Source Wikipedia

What a bad manager!

[mattyboy6000]

most of the players are foreign so it makes sense to have foreign managers

[JAL]

I see that Hughes has been criticising the Premier League of 'snobbery' for overlooking British managers, opting for foreign names. He has suggested that "familiarity breeds contempt" with home-based managers. He recognises the talents of the foreigners over here but his argument seems to be, given the chance, the British could do as good a job - if not better. The problem being, they are not given the chance to manage big clubs.

What does everyone think?

I tend to disagree with Hughes. Sure, there are some good British managers, and some bad foreign ones (SVEN!) but the situation is that there are not very many decent British managers. Alan Curbishley often comes up with the same whinge about foreigners getting preference but he is in a weak position to argue this - after doing okay with CHarlton, he has been pretty poor at West Ham and will surely get the sack sooner or later.

Furthermore, Hughes' comments smack of hypocricy. So chairmen are unjustifiably opting for foreigners for short-term gain, and not "looking after their own."? What about managers who import sub-standard foreign players for short-term gain (Bruno f'ing Berner) and not giving British youth players a chance to come into their own.

Allardyce jested that if his name was Allardyci, he'd get a big job. Well......

Does it smack of 'giz a job' or was that they way Oliver Holt wrote it. Seemed like Holt was publicising Hughes at the expense of Blackburn again and not that it had been a two way thing in that one is weaker without the other.

Agree about sub standard foreign imports ie. Berner, Righters etc., hopefully we all make mistakes, the key in football is how quickly you can rectify those mistakes realising what is a mistake and then implement a plan to recover from it.

[rover6]

Sven Goran Eriksson's Record:

IFK Göteborg

Svenska Cupen Winners 1979, 1982

Allsvenskan Champions 1981, 1982

UEFA Cup Winners 1982

S.L. Benfica

Portuguese Liga Champions 1983, 1984, 1991

Cup of Portugal Winners 1983

SuperCup Cândido de Oliveira Champions 1989

European Cup Runners Up 1990

UEFA Cup Runners Up 1983

A.S. Roma

Coppa Italia Winners 1986

U.C. Sampdoria

Coppa Italia Winners 1994

S.S. Lazio

Coppa Italia Winners 1998, 2000

Italian Super Cup Winners 1998

UEFA Cup Winners' Cup Winners 1999

UEFA Super Cup Winners 1999

Serie A Champions 2000

:Source Wikipedia

What a bad manager!

I accept, Sven is a mystery. Maybe that's why he gets the ladies (wait, he's rich..). I cannot reconcile the supine, weak, superficial man that I see on my TV screen and who managed England with the above record.

I would dearly like an objective commentator tell me how he is rated in Sweden and Portugal - beyond the stats. I have heard that in Italy he is known as the expensive failure (or words to that effect). He spent lots and lots of money, assmebled supra-squads, was there for many seasons, and didn't win much (although one Scudetto was an achievement).

The only way that I can settle the confusion in my ahead is accepting that enigmas exist. Why did Oyvind Leonhardson (sp?) bounce around British clubs for millions upon millions of pounds? How did Gerard Houllier achieve such success in his career? How did Howard Wilkinson win the league with Leeds? How did Brian Kidd develop a reputation for a being a great coach? How did Christian Karembeu play for the best clubs in Europe (and Boro)? How did Steve McManaman earn his mascot role at Real?

I stand by my claim that Sven is a rubbish manager. Maybe at Man City he will finally and unequivocally prove that he is impersonating a successful manager who he assassinated many years ago. Or maybe, and more realistically, Mr Sven is proving to the footballing world just how stupid/superficial it is by getting so far with so little.

[speeeeeeedie]

Foreign managers are the way of the future if the Premier League continues to be the honey pot of football. It makes perfect sense to have a manager who can converse with players who speak different languages. The top managers in England today call all speak more than 1 language. They all say that "the dressing room is English" but if they need a quiet word they can do so in a different tongue; something purely English speaking people cannot do with non-native speakers. The exception is Ferguson, but he has Queiroz who speaks 5 different ones; quite handy to have around isn't he?

Another downside to the Premier League being the top league is that English players stay at home lessening the chance for them to learn another language and culture. This lack of exposure doesn't help their chances of becoming a top manager, but it will turn them into Peter Reid.

[joey_big_nose]

Problem is, for me, that as all the domestic trophies, apart from the Carling cup, are a closed shop what chance do you have? If you want to employ a manager with a record of winning trophies - which all the Premiership do - then you have to sign a foreign manager.

A daft system where four managers dominate the league and hoover up all the trophies because they have all the money. Its hard to build up a decent CV. Its concievable that an English manager might not win the FA cup or league for the next fifteen years.

[Grabbi Graeme]

When foreign mangers have come into the Prem league they do have some success behind them, Wenger, Mourinho, Benitez, Ramos, Erickkson, if you look at some of the english managers in the Prem league.

Jewel- Bye bye Derby

Southgate- Backed by his chairman but still struggling

Bruce- Spent lots never got anywhere

Curbs- did well at Charlton without being great now with Wham and mid table

Coppell- Potters about in quiet way trying to keep his side in the Prem League

Hodgson- Success abroad been brought in to give last rites to fulham

Keegan- Struggling to keep the toon afloat.

Megson- Struggling to keep Notlob up.

[rover6]

Part of the problem is that with our Premier League etc. we are insulated and generally, ignorant, of the football world abroad. I mean, a respected member of this forum thought that Ali Benarbia was an unknown before he turned up in England...

British managers don't have the knowledge of the continental transfer market that foreigners tend to have and this can have crucial consequences, especially for the big club.

I really appreciate Mark Hughes' contribution to Rovers but at the moment I would say, only David Moyes, amongst the British, is a credible candidate for one day taking the Man U etc. jobs. And even Moyes may struggle because his football is not pretty and thus befitting the style that many of the elite aspire to.

[ABBEY]

theres only one paul sturrock

[rover6]

Yup, and the only man on this planet who thought Peter Crouch was worth more than a mars bar.

[McClarky]

I agree with Hughesie but do think this makes him come over as very hypocritical as nearly all his signings have been foreign polayers, i.e. not giving English players a chance.

[John]

I agree with Hughesie but do think this makes him come over as very hypocritical as nearly all his signings have been foreign polayers, i.e. not giving English players a chance.

Not really, how is he meant to buy English players with little or no money????