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[Archived] Realistic Summer Moves

laughatthedingles

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Since the 1960's I've seen rovers selling their best players, quite often for a LOT of money. Pickering, England, Newton, Shearer all brought in loads of cash.

Never did it do the club any good whatsoever.

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Andy Johnson would be worth a look too, since he might be on the move.

He'd be a good buy but I'd have to take back years of calling him a cheating, diving stunt!

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Since the 1960's I've seen rovers selling their best players, quite often for a LOT of money. Pickering, England, Newton, Shearer all brought in loads of cash.

Never did it do the club any good whatsoever.

None of it is ever as simple as that though is it den?

You probably know more about the others than me den but regarding Shearer (and later on Duff and Bellamy as exmaples)...he wasn´t sold because of the money though was he? Jack Walker would have preferred Shearer at Rovers rather than the 15 million world-record fee. Bellamy and Duff were examples of release clause fees being matched. Rovers I believe actually turned down 2 bids from Chelsea before they met the release fee even though they were not far off.

The problem is...back to Shearer...can you really keep an unhappy player and hold them to their contract? Some you probably can as they will get on with it and not cause too many problems. Others won´t put their all and keep bleating to the papers about wanting to leave...all the while their price goes down and Rovers eventually get far less than they could have done to put towards improving their team after their departure.

Two players who did seem to want to leave and were rumoured to have had a negative effect on the team were Sherwood and Le Saux. As for Derek Dougan...

Regarding Bentley...he has already come out on TV and declared that he wants to leave despite having three years on his contract while asserting that we as a club should be grateful to him for having done his job so to speak. Isn´t that what everybody does in employment...do their job? Well...thanks Dave for going beyond your call of duty and playing to your ability! It seems impossible to expect him to stop talking to the media as well.

So...ultimately. Sometimes you have to sell your best players. Hopefully Ince can talk Bentley and Santa Cruz into wanting to stay (much more difficult in Bentley´s case)...but would we really want an unhappy player in the team? Wouldn´t the rest of the team resent him? What kind of dressing room atmosphere would that lead to?

You said never has selling a player done the club any good...well selling Bellamy led to us being Benni for less money who scored more goals. It isnt selling good players that is the real problem...it is the buying of average players to replace them!

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I heard Celtic were keen, I think if we can get a decent sum for him then he should be allowed to leave. No point us losing him for free + we now have Vogel too + soon another midfielder

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Bafana Bafana captain Aaron Mokoena is still mulling over a new contract offer from Blackburn Rovers as the club this week appointed the first-ever black manager of a Premier league team.

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Gets on my nerves that does! as if they have to mention it!

Regarding Moko, If it means losing him on a free, then keep him

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Dont know how true this is but ive been told Spurs have offered 8M and Lennon for Bentley

I think that would be a good bit of buisness for Rovers.

Just got the link of my friend so thought id edit and post it for you all to read

http://www.goal.com/en-us/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=752322

Would be a good deal in my books, direct replacement with cash. TBH I don't think an in from Bentley is any better then an in form Lennon.

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If someone wants the Axe let em have him, yes you can bring him on for the last 10 to shut up shop as you say, but all he does is give away free kicks and loses the ball, hes not good enough.

Roberts can go as well he's on good money, and to be honest, he will not hit 15+ goals if we are to push for top 6 again we need more goals.

As for Bents, Lennon is a good player, he had a good season before last, and he has real pace. OK he can't cross, so heres an idea get him to cut inside some times have the fullback overlap him and he can cross it!, play to the boys strengths. I'm sure he would do a good job for us, and 8M on top straight gets another couple of players.

Our focus should be on central midfield we need goals from this part of the park, Vogel is not and never will be a holding player, We need quality protection in this area, its key nowadays, and would make Nelsen and Sambas job much easier, as they can focus on their tasks instead of babysitting someone who's never played there before in his life.

Take the Bentley offer try and squeeze a little more cash if poss, or ask for huddlestone, and a little less.

I also want to see us have a look at Cabanas I've only seen him a couple of times but him and Roque really click, the 8M being banded around is cowpooh, his contract runs out soon!

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Lets look at this from a neutral perspective.

During the last World Cup, Aaron Lennon was identified by most opponents and media as one of the only few along with Hargreaves who caused any havoc, or impressed at all.

Next, what is the single most important asset in todays football at the highest level? Arguably its pace.

Lennon is younger than Bentley and if you recall when we got Bentley he couldnt do any of the things he does now with any distinction.

He is pacy, which causes any defender problems, and I dont think he is half as bad as some people are making out. Maybe he doesnt match the technique of Bentley BUT without pace Bentley will never ever truly reach the top heights of international or European football. I am sure about that. Lennon could still do...

Id take 8-10 million pounds as well as Lennon any day. We have a direct replacement, much needed pace plus another 10 million on top of possibly 10 million we already do have...

AND SELL MOKOENAAAAAAA FOR ANYTHING, PLEASE NO NEW CONTRACT! :(

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Not really mate....Lennon has done more at international level than Bentley, is arguably at a larger club than bentley....scored more international goals and premier league goals...has more experience than bentley in europe....and is younger...

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Next, what is the single most important asset in todays football at the highest level? Arguably its pace.
Whatever happened to ability, vision, teamwork, drive, stamina, technique, even balance. Pace is a bonus, not an essential item. Lennon has one thing and one thing only, and without any other attributes pace is useless. I've said it before, and i'll say it again, why don't we give Dwain Chambers a trial?
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Yep...Lennon came through as a pro and played for england just because he can run fast.... :blink:

People have short memories...this guy was amazing for england and spurs about 18 months ago.....and I feel he can reproduce that form for us....I've seen more from Lennon than I have from Bentley.

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We lack a few things in our team - pace and goals from midfield being 2 key ones.

Lennon offers both of them. He also is the type of player that excites a crowd, not afraid to take a man on, and very handy when we break away.

We still have MGP who on top form, can cross as good, if not better than Bentley. He is also better at dead balls and if we can get it back to his old, is much better at corners.

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No its not, a lot of people think Bentley is better than he is purely because he played for us

So when the pundits on tv rave about Bentley and say he should be at a bigger club, as they have, are they rovers fans too? don't notice anyone raving about Lennon on a consistent basis. Agree that one of the reasons Bentley looks good is that he is one of the main players in our team, but if Lennon were that good , he'd surely be one of the leading players in Spurs team.

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but if Lennon were that good , he'd surely be one of the leading players in Spurs team.

If Bentley were that good then surely he should've been one of the leading players at Arsenal / Norwich -

It doesn't always work out like that. Same can be said for Santa Cruz / Samba / Friedal / Warnock at their previous clubs. Players sometimes just need a move to refind form and get a good run in the side.

I think we should take Lennon on because he is young enough and has the potential to be very good for us.

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Yep...Lennon came through as a pro and played for england just because he can run fast.... :blink:

Pretty much.

England had been craving for some pace on the wing after several years of fairly slow wingers so when a player with searing pace came along he was bound to be the focus of attention. When the England setup realised Lennon was a one trick pony and that his end product wasn't up to standard he was dropped and hasn't been anywhere near contention since.

At the end of the day wingers are all about end product, either having the abilty to put the ball in early from a deeper position or going past the full backs and putting a cross into the box. Lennon can beat the full back but he cannot provide the service.

Bentley is a better player, the stats speak for themselves. He does what a wide player should do and does it well, putting the ball into the box for someone to score.

With the strikers we have and the system we are likely to play it would be madness to rely on Aarron "i cannot cross" Lennon to provide the service to our forward line. We don't have any decent pace up front so they aren't going to run into the box to meet his pathetic attempt at crosses into the box. His crosses rarely seem to even get in the air so that rules out Roque running towards the far post to make a simple tap in with his head.

I wish people would use some common sense and realise the guy is rubbish and would not fit in with our system or the players we have.

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We still have MGP who on top form, can cross as good, if not better than Bentley. He is also better at dead balls and if we can get it back to his old, is much better at corners.

MGP hasn't been on top form for a long time.

He started scoring some goals towards the end of the season but his service into the box from out wide was crap and has been for some time.

Do you really want to take the risk in relying on Gamst to somehow recapture his form and rely on him as our sole option when it comes to providing service from out wide?

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No its not, a lot of people think Bentley is better than he is purely because he played for us

Apparently Spurs management think Bentley is a far better player than Lennon.

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As do the Spurs fans.

If the tabloids are correct, Spurs think Bentley is around £8m better than Lennon.

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