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I cannot believe someone would want rid of McCarthy before Derbyshire - thats poor. 2 players, on 2 different levels.

Derbyshire hasnt done anything, he young and has talent yes but he has so far failed to show much when given the chance. £4m is mega money for him! Although id still add in a % sell on clause in there too, just incase.

Benni however has top pedigree and scored a bag full for us in his 1st season, im backing him to hit form. He is very determined to be the player he was again - surely thats only good news for us.

What did Derbyshire do against Newcastle? Score a 1 on 1 chance! So he should of, hardly a class goal, just good timing for us.

Benni McCarthy age 31 - 28 goals in 74 games - Has spent the last season and a half AWOL. Arguably has around 2-3 good years left in him, if he can get back to his current form. Has shown that he is not a very good strike partner to Roque Santa Cruz... Could easily go AWOL again for another year at which point he will be 32 and his value will reduce, not to mention the higher cost in wages... He will never be selected in the squad ahead of Roque, and it is doubtfull a strike partnership which has already been tried could form... Would he be satisfied spending the next 2 years on the bench, bearing in mind the 1st team wage he is probably on...

Matt Derbyshire age 22 - 9 goals in 56 games (many of which he has been played out of position or used primarily as a substitute) - Has arguably not even reached his peak. Has 10 years still left in him. Is a very good bench option/cup option. Could be sold for 3-4 million which in my opinion would be a bargain considering his remaining years in football. Good finishing, attitude, love for the club which we all missed when we sold Dunn... I could go on...

Options:

- Sell Benni (& keep Derbs) for maximum of what he is worth. Spend the 5-6 million on Janko (3.5 million + change) or someone definately good to play alongside Roque..?

- Sell Derbs for 4 million - He starts scoring when put in his prefered position. His value goes up in the next 8-10 years. His talent gets him places missing out on revenue. We loose the element of having a footballer who trully loves the club for the club, and not for the money. His wage is never going to match that of Benni's which inturn will save us more money over the years... We will loose a happy bench option as apposed to a footballer who moans if he is out of the squad for too long... Benni goes AWOL again, and were stuck with a no-scoring Benni and Jason Roberts. I could go on...

Ooijer.

Ince says he is a player he would like to keep beyond his current contrct.

On Radio Lancs-"he played in the European Championship, he's a good defender and he's a leader" or words to that effect.

Why not drop Nelsen who has been ineffective, and put Ooijer at CB alongside Samba, and give him the captains armband? Oh i forget, it's easier to play Ooijer at LB? :huh:

Vasilis Torosidis has played down suggestions he is set for a January move to Blackburn & Trialists impress

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11676_4557077,00.html

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It's the article that appeared in this morning's LT.

To make another point.

Oojer.

Ince says he is a player he would like to keep beyond his current contrct.

On Radio Lancs-"he played in the European Championship, he's a good defender and he's a leader" or words to that effect.

David Bentley - how much did Hughes pay for him? Rocky? Tugay? Warnock? Benni? Friedel? Dunn? etc, etc. All well known names. A well informed manager doesn't need to shop in the fourth division.

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That article is so depressing. Clearly Ince and his team have very little knowledge of talent outside this country (Vilanueva was pushed to him by an agent and we still don't know how good a player he is. In fact, I'm pretty sure that Ince said that himself). It's clear as day that any new signings will be those pushed by agents, those who are ageing and already established and who will cost over the odds or players from the lower English leagues who clearly aren't good enough for the Prem.

This man will be the death of Rovers.

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Personally den I think he realises that he is a dead man walking.

If and when the team lose on Sunday, get hammered at old t in midweek followed by another rogering by Liverpool then it has to be the end of his regime.

It really is an atrocious state of affairs when our manager has to fill the press with utter tripe.

We dont see Megson or Bruce coming up with poor excuses, they have got on with it, tinkered and done well whereas our cockney wideboy has done nothing but bring in dross ans has seen us struggle.

He thinks Andrews is Premiership I just dont agree.

he thinks we have played well I just dont agree

he thinks we have been unkucky I just dont agree

the fare on offer has been dire, lacking effort and devoid of entertainment or flair or creativity.

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Could this be one of our delves into the lower leagues for a right back. :unsure: I think we were linked with him in the summer if my memory serves me correctly.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/t...ity/7752912.stm

If we were going to go for anyone from the lower leagues at right back I'd prefer Neal Eardley from Oldham, I think he'll end up in the Premiership eventually.

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I don`t think Andrews looks out of place in the team at all.

Have to disagree, Keith Andrews is a million miles away from the standard of player we need to keep us in this division.

The article in the LT is very worrying.

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Have to disagree, Keith Andrews is a million miles away from the standard of player we need to keep us in this division.

The article in the LT is very worrying.

Midfielders have to dictate the pace, destroy opposition attacks, dominate the midfield, impose themselves.

Andrews? Nah. He can pass a ball occassionally.

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That is the most depressing article I have EVER read, about or by, ANY Blackburn Rovers manager

Pitiful, absolutely pitiful. The sooner he goes, the better.

I found it extremely alarming, but much more of a damning indictment of the Owners and/or Board than the manager.

If that article is to be believed Ince doesn't even know his January transfer budget which is a scandalous way to run a football club.

Ince should have been made aware of his August and January budgets from day one so that targets could have been drawn up and more or less done and dusted.

The article further seems to indicate he doesn't know if he'll get any backing at all, let alone the amount.

Pitiful is right.

Taxi for the Trustees. <_<

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The thing with Andrews is, he plays better than Mokoena and Reid, both of whom are considered "average" players.

Mokoena is one of the worst mids in the English leagues. A fit Reid, which we haven't seen for two or three seasons is way ahead of what Andrews has been, or ever will be. - Don't you think?

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I found it extremely alarming, but much more of a damning indictment of the Owners and/or Board than the manager.

If that article is to be believed Ince doesn't even know his January transfer budget which is a scandalous way to run a football club.

Ince should have been made aware of his August and January budgets from day one so that targets could have been drawn up and more or less done and dusted.

The article further seems to indicate he doesn't know if he'll get any backing at all, let alone the amount.

Pitiful is right.

Taxi for the Trustees. <_<

Agreed on both accounts Rev.

On the one hand Ince says he has to shop in the lower leagues, then follows that up with a comment where he says he doesn't know the January budget available to him.

What a load of ######. Stop trying to patronise us fans Iney. John Williams silence is deafening too. Hardly heard a thing from him since the end of last season.

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I found it extremely alarming, but much more of a damning indictment of the Owners and/or Board than the manager.

If that article is to be believed Ince doesn't even know his January transfer budget which is a scandalous way to run a football club.

Ince should have been made aware of his August and January budgets from day one so that targets could have been drawn up and more or less done and dusted.

The article further seems to indicate he doesn't know if he'll get any backing at all, let alone the amount.

Pitiful is right.

Taxi for the Trustees. <_<

While I fully agree with your assessment Rev I also think that it highlights the huge gamble in appointing an inexperienced manager knowing full well that he would have limited funds available to him. If ever there was a need for an experienced man at the helm this was it. If the Trustees have no funds available - and in the present financial climate it's not a major surprise - it is difficult to see how the club can survive in the Premiership. I wonder if we are about to see the start of a process that will see the club find it's own level - lower championship or higher division one based on the finances that seem to be available.

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I dont think you have to look much further then Southampton FC to see where this club is going to end up sadly.

Were obviously not going to get a takeover any time soon. We are going to keep plugging away until the money is gone, and then we will have to start selling off our key assets to whipe away the debt.

We will eventually expect relegation, and we will go down, and start playing top of the the table quality football in the Championship.

Then before we know it, some more of our key players will depart to cover our balance. Then after that before we know it, we will be worrying about relegation from the Championship.

Look at Soton, they had one of the best youth acadamies in the league a couple of years back, and the brand spanking new stadium we dont even have. Look where they are now and in what state...

This club has 2-3 years to find an owner if we stay in the Premier League! Lets face it, if we get relegated at the end of the season. The gash in the side of our ship is going to widen, and we will be in worse trouble...

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I don`t think Andrews looks out of place in the team at all.

However, that may or may not say something about the team!

In fact, let me elaborate.

At the end of a recent game I think we had Mokena, Derbyshire, Treacy and Andrews in midfield.

See what I mean!?!

Thats bloody scary!!!!!

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Norwegian defender Tore Reginiussen will soon find out whether Ince wants to sign him, he will talk to Ince today or tomorrow, according to Norwegian newspapers. He's done well by his own accounts, and Ince seems pleased, but he's not too keen on staying there to play more matches, there's other clubs interested in him. (No PL clubs, but other European clubs, according to Reginiussen)

So I guess we'll know more soon.

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I found it extremely alarming, but much more of a damning indictment of the Owners and/or Board than the manager.

If that article is to be believed Ince doesn't even know his January transfer budget which is a scandalous way to run a football club.

Ince should have been made aware of his August and January budgets from day one so that targets could have been drawn up and more or less done and dusted.

The article further seems to indicate he doesn't know if he'll get any backing at all, let alone the amount.

Pitiful is right.

Taxi for the Trustees. <_<

The Trustees are being extremely sensible.

It is very likely Ince will be sacked so no way should they release any spending to him.

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The Trustees are being extremely sensible.

It is very likely Ince will be sacked so no way should they release any spending to him.

Sorry, have to ask. Do they have the balls to bite the bullet and admit they got it wrong, and sack them... Let alone risk the possibility of having the club labled 'racist' by the lazy area of the media... <_<

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Sorry, have to ask. Do they have the balls to bite the bullet and admit they got it wrong, and sack them... Let alone risk the possibility of having the club labled 'racist' by the lazy area of the media... <_<

Who knows?

But if you were a Trustee would you be committing the club's entire transfer budget to Ince to be contractually spent perhaps before the window opens?

Not even Rev would do that.

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:mellow:

Who knows?

But if you were a Trustee would you be committing the club's entire transfer budget to Ince to be contractually spent perhaps before the window opens?

Not even Rev would do that.

I WOULDNT GIVE INCE A BLOODY PENNY HES NO GOOD WITH MONEY LOOK WAT HE DID WITH IT IN THE SUMMER SIGNING KEITH ANDREWS RUBBISH DOES HE KNOW A GOOD PLAYER WHEN HE SEES ONE NO HE DOSENT
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