Bobby G Posted December 10, 2008 Posted December 10, 2008 Id take the old Bellamy and add Janko and sell Santa Cruz and pocket 10 million...I would.
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alexanders Posted December 10, 2008 Posted December 10, 2008 Id take the old Bellamy and add Janko and sell Santa Cruz and pocket 10 million...I would. I would too, but the problem is that Bellars is injury prone - so is Roque though, but..
Bobby G Posted December 10, 2008 Posted December 10, 2008 Bellamy of old! Its not that they are injury prone as much as the training regime at the clubs they are at. Its not a coincidence that injuries under Hughes were negligible and then once Bellers moved to West Ham he went back to his old self and same applies with Roque...
LeChuck Posted December 10, 2008 Posted December 10, 2008 Bellamy is too old to be spending any significant amount of money on now.
47er Posted December 10, 2008 Posted December 10, 2008 Carlos Vela. Apparantly up for a loan deal as WBA are interested. Anyone know if Bendter is going to be pushed out the door? I've heard a rumour Wenger wants the harmony back and Gallas and Him are the victims in Jan. Where did Kightly to Bolton come from? Somewhere on this Board quoted a rumour that Bolton were preparing a 5M bid for him
LeChuck Posted December 10, 2008 Posted December 10, 2008 Wayne Routledge is doing brilliantly for Cardiff at the moment. If we're after a cheap-ish option then he could be one to look at. He's a natural right winger, he's got pace, he can beat man and chips in with the odd goal. He's still at an age where he's got improvement in him too. He's not ideal, but if we're only working with about £5 million then he's the sort of player we need to look at. I'm not sure how much Villa would want for him but it couldn't be much, surely.
Manc Rover Posted December 10, 2008 Posted December 10, 2008 Santa OUT - Bellamy IN? I'd have Bellamy back at Ewood for sure. We desperately need some pace and a bit of craft up-front. An injury free Bellamy would give us that. Cash in on RSC while we still can and use the money for Bellamy + 1 more.
T4E Posted December 10, 2008 Posted December 10, 2008 Bellamy is too old to be spending any significant amount of money on now. I'm usually in agreement with almost everything you say mate, but I can't go along with that one. Bellamy is 29 and wont be 30 until next Summer, he's still a fantastic player and is the sort of player that Rovers have to be dealing in - infact he's in a similar position to the one he was in when we signed him originally. I would love to have him back. If we got him, kept Santa and kept them both fit, those two would keep us up alone.
Ricky Posted December 10, 2008 Posted December 10, 2008 Thought we should have had a look at Routledge on loan last year when it became obvious he wasn't being used at Villa. No suprise he's getting some very good reviews at Cardiff. He'd certainly give us some much needed pace and would be an affordable option for us.
RevidgeBlue Posted December 10, 2008 Posted December 10, 2008 I'm usually in agreement with almost everything you say mate, but I can't go along with that one. Bellamy is 29 and wont be 30 until next Summer, he's still a fantastic player and is the sort of player that Rovers have to be dealing in - infact he's in a similar position to the one he was in when we signed him originally. I would love to have him back. If we got him, kept Santa and kept them both fit, those two would keep us up alone. As always with Bellamy that's the crux of the matter, on the Spurs/West'aaam game the other night it was saying he'd only completed 12 games in 12 months due to injury!!! Tbh don't think the Trustees would sanction a move for him anyway, he was apparently Sparky's top target 12 months after we sold him. Doubt he would come back either.
LeChuck Posted December 10, 2008 Posted December 10, 2008 I'm usually in agreement with almost everything you say mate, but I can't go along with that one. Bellamy is 29 and wont be 30 until next Summer, he's still a fantastic player and is the sort of player that Rovers have to be dealing in - infact he's in a similar position to the one he was in when we signed him originally. I would love to have him back. If we got him, kept Santa and kept them both fit, those two would keep us up alone. Fair point. I suppose, in effect, he could potentially be to this campaign what Andy Cole was to the last campaign that was heading for relegation. Providing he could keep himself fit, of course. I don't think we'd have a chance of signing him without Hughes here though, wasn't that the only reason he came in the first place?
Hughesy Posted December 10, 2008 Posted December 10, 2008 £0 pennies in january = no new signings. Sell Roque for £18m, probably spend about £6m of it! Great!!
T4E Posted December 10, 2008 Posted December 10, 2008 Fair point. I suppose, in effect, he could potentially be to this campaign what Andy Cole was to the last campaign that was heading for relegation. Providing he could keep himself fit, of course. I don't think we'd have a chance of signing him without Hughes here though, wasn't that the only reason he came in the first place? I think so - Hughes is undoubtedly what got him in the door. Now however he knows us and knows we're a good club, he's a little bit older, perhaps a little bit wiser, and he signed for West Ham happily enough without needing Sparky to be there. I would have thought we'd have a good shot at him - and at significantly less than £5m, too.
Hughesy Posted December 10, 2008 Posted December 10, 2008 Bellamy would only come back if we gave him 50k a week or more. Would he be worth that??
T4E Posted December 10, 2008 Posted December 10, 2008 I'm not sure how true that is, so it's hard to discuss. If thats the case I don't think I'd want him. What is Santa on? He should be on that level.
joey_big_nose Posted December 10, 2008 Posted December 10, 2008 I am going to lose my rag if we don't have a minimum of 8m for buys before sales. We sold Bentley for 9m, made a net loss of 1m on the Robinison/Brad swap, spent 4m on Grella, gained 2.5m from the loss of Hughes, paid 1m to loan Carlos with an option, paid about 1m total for Bunn and Andrews. That means net profit of 4.5m. On top of that we have all the TV money etc. and a pretty manageable wage bill, and the trustees promised an input of three million. All I can think of is 5m is the budget assuming we are going to sign Carlos. I would say we are not going to do that given he is not much use in our crrent situation, so we won't out lay the 4m we need to spend. So maybe we will have 9 or ten million. If this cub was run in the same financial way our peers are (admittedly through moderate benefactors pumping money is) like Wigan, Bolton, Fulham, Boro then we would have a minimum war chest of 15m, probabaly more. Not that currently I trust Ince to spend it.
RevidgeBlue Posted December 10, 2008 Posted December 10, 2008 I think so - Hughes is undoubtedly what got him in the door. Now however he knows us and knows we're a good club, he's a little bit older, perhaps a little bit wiser, and he signed for West Ham happily enough without needing Sparky to be there. I would have thought we'd have a good shot at him - and at significantly less than £5m, too. I hadn't actually read that article before I posted. If it's true that CB is available for as little as 5m (which I doubt) then we should be looking to pair him up with Roque, not looking at selling one to finance the other. That's the sort of ambition which would fire us up the table and bring the fans back.
joey_big_nose Posted December 10, 2008 Posted December 10, 2008 I hadn't actually read that article before I posted. If it's true that CB is available for as little as 5m (which I doubt) then we should be looking to pair him up with Roque, not looking at selling one to finance the other. That's the sort of ambition which would fire us up the table and bring the fans back. To be honest I can't see Bellamy leaving to join a club in the bottom three and somewhere he has been before. You never know but it seems unlikely. He is such an excellent talent on his day I think any team outside the top 4 would take him if he cleared a medical so I doubt we would have any chance if he seems to be regaining fitness.
gazsimm Posted December 10, 2008 Posted December 10, 2008 well done the board 5 million to spend in january is a joke, were the hell has our money gone!!! Relegation here we come unless we get a serious backer in who will provide funds to the club to help us get of this mess.
super_arran Posted December 10, 2008 Posted December 10, 2008 well done the board 5 million to spend in january is a joke, were the hell has our money gone!!! Relegation here we come unless we get a serious backer in who will provide funds to the club to help us get of this mess. but isn't 5million just tabloid rumours?
RibbleValleyRover Posted December 10, 2008 Posted December 10, 2008 I wouldn't take Bellamy back even if we could afford him. He is far too injury prone and would spend a large part of the season on the medical table. We already have an injury plagued squad as it is, last thing we need is another injury prone player...
T4E Posted December 10, 2008 Posted December 10, 2008 I hadn't actually read that article before I posted. If it's true that CB is available for as little as 5m (which I doubt) then we should be looking to pair him up with Roque, not looking at selling one to finance the other. That's the sort of ambition which would fire us up the table and bring the fans back. Well he went to West Ham for £7m I think, and as you say he's only played 12 times in a year, and they need the cash. £5m should be the max we'll go to - we ought to start at £3m.
gazsimm Posted December 10, 2008 Posted December 10, 2008 but isn't 5million just tabloid rumours? i hope it is just tabloid rumours, we will have to wait and see. If we have only got 5 million to spend in January though we should all just accept relegation now!!!!
JAL Posted December 10, 2008 Posted December 10, 2008 I find it interesting that as Philipl says some of the players are asking their agents to look at moving, if this is vetted right, it could prove to be a very good thing for Blackburn Rovers, as it could/should generate some much needed funds to strengthen the first team. But I have absolutely no confidence in Ince or his team being capable of recognising the talent to come into the club judging by his signings so far. £5M SHOULD BE ENOUGH
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