[Archived] Hang Em High

[thenodrog]

Not really a hanging offence but despite many fears on here about the scales of justice / morals / retribution by some on here I believe that the world is still turning without this lot being part of it.

http://news.aol.co.uk/cctv-of-atm-raiders-who-died/article/20091116063109485941487

Course with em being mickey mousers I expect we'll see attempts to lay blame on someone somewhere and a number of compensation claims to follow.

[speeeeeeedie]

To some this will seem rather harsh sticking it in the "hang 'em high" thread but I wanted to see what people thought of this;

Blackburn mother leaves 4 kids under 4 at home to go on 24hr booze and drugs bender

[mellison24]

To some this will seem rather harsh sticking it in the "hang 'em high" thread but I wanted to see what people thought of this;

Blackburn mother leaves 4 kids under 4 at home to go on 24hr booze and drugs bender

Kids in care/given up for adoption and that mother jailed for a couple of years?

[thenodrog]

Kids in care/given up for adoption and that mother jailed for a couple of years?

Sterilisation would be the way forward.

[speeeeeeedie]

Sterilisation would be the way forward.

It's a bit late for that now, but I suppose it will stop her from adding to her brood.

[mellison24]

It's a bit late for that now, but I suppose it will stop her from adding to her brood.

And people told me I was harsh to say 'castrate all sex offenders'? I agree with you, but i don't see how I was harsh in my views.

[Anti Euro Smiths Fan]

Evil sex abuser not sent to prison because he's obese

LINK HERE

So because evil McConaghy has obesity and has got a lack of mobility he's not going to be punished properly for his dreadful abuse.

What about the victim's right to see justice happen? Or is justice less important than the rights of the abuser?

[thenodrog]

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Evil sex abuser not sent to prison because he's obese

LINK HERE

So because evil McConaghy has obesity and has got a lack of mobility he's not going to be punished properly for his dreadful abuse.

What about the victim's right to see justice happen? Or is justice less important than the rights of the abuser?

1. It happened a long time ago.

2. His sentence was only a couple of years although I don't know why.

3. Leaving him 'out' does open the way for a few possibilities for the arrangement of 'alternative correction'.

[thenodrog]

There can be no argument against depatching these vermin whatsoever..... I trust.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/6809819/Dog-lead-murderer-jailed-for-life.html

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/dec/14/murderer-peter-tobin-denies-killing

In the case of Chivers shouldn't the people who were responsible for his release be apportioned some of the blame? The surely should but do they even get disciplined for such eronious judgement these days?

[Stuart]

By the sounds of it Theno, it's a jurisdiction issue on account of him being released after serving a sentence in Germany and subsequently deported.

I blame the human rights activists for failing to define what constitutes as 'human'.

[mellison24]

Hang 'em high: The judge who sentenced Munir Hussain for 2 and a half years for saving his families life, by injuring the main intruder of 3 (who declared an intent to kill after tying the family up with rope). Our justice system has failed spectacularly here. Munir used a cricket bat against the intruders, fracturing the ringleader's skull in the process. GOOD ON HIM, I SAY!!

Anyone who enters another person's property unlawfully is CLEARLY a dnager to those within the residence. The occupants of the house should have every legal right to protect themselves. When the intruder declares an intent to kill, you will do all you can to eliminate that threat. MURDER would be terrible, obviously. But the intruder OPENS himself to injury from ANY object.

My mother works as a solicitor and according to the law (VERY wrongly), if the intruder had injured HIMSELF in the property, then he would be able to file for a personal injury claim and not have a charge of breaking and entering. I'm going to be in the police when I'm out of Uni, and I intend to start/join campaigns to get the law AS IT SHOULD BE, which is:

TO PROTECT THE LAW-ABIDING CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTRY FROM THE CRIMINAL SCUM OF THE EARTH!!!!!

[thenodrog]

Hang 'em high: The judge who sentenced Munir Hussain for 2 and a half years for saving his families life, by injuring the main intruder of 3 (who declared an intent to kill after tying the family up with rope). Our justice system has failed spectacularly here. Munir used a cricket bat against the intruders, fracturing the ringleader's skull in the process. GOOD ON HIM, I SAY!!

Anyone who enters another person's property unlawfully is CLEARLY a dnager to those within the residence. The occupants of the house should have every legal right to protect themselves. When the intruder declares an intent to kill, you will do all you can to eliminate that threat. MURDER would be terrible, obviously. But the intruder OPENS himself to injury from ANY object.

My mother works as a solicitor and according to the law (VERY wrongly), if the intruder had injured HIMSELF in the property, then he would be able to file for a personal injury claim and not have a charge of breaking and entering. I'm going to be in the police when I'm out of Uni, and I intend to start/join campaigns to get the law AS IT SHOULD BE, which is:

TO PROTECT THE LAW-ABIDING CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTRY FROM THE CRIMINAL SCUM OF THE EARTH!!!!!

The law does not know whether it's on it's arse or it's elbow. Other side of the coin and a pro firearms argument. Since the law changed the criminals can get firearms but Joe Public can't without one hell of a palarver.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1236901/Dregs-earth-career-criminals-shot-dead-postmasters-son-serve-34-years.html

[Rovermatt]

My mother works as a solicitor and according to the law (VERY wrongly), if the intruder had injured HIMSELF in the property, then he would be able to file for a personal injury claim and not have a charge of breaking and entering.

Of course, occupier's liability. Having said that, no judge in his right mind will allow a case to come before him where the plaintiff hurt himself while breaking and entering. I'm not sure about your assertion that any invader in such circumstances would avoid a breaking and entering charge. You might want to check that with your mum again.

With regard to the guy and his cricket bat, I have to say I'm shocked. It's not like he killed him. The man should be allowed a proportionate response when his family, his life and his property s threatened. I'm really not sure why the PPS would decide to prosecute such a case. What possible public benefit emerges from locking a person for defending his home? What happened to the intruder in this instance?

[thenodrog]

With regard to the guy and his cricket bat, I have to say I'm shocked. It's not like he killed him. The man should be allowed a proportionate response when his family, his life and his property s threatened. I'm really not sure why the PPS would decide to prosecute such a case. What possible public benefit emerges from locking a person for defending his home? What happened to the intruder in this instance?

No doubt the bloke with the bat was about 6ft 4" and 16 stone whilst the scummer might have been 5ft 6" and 9st.

But ......

a. No one knows what an intruder is carrying as a weapon so it's far better to disable him asap.

b. whether he's on his own or not.

c. the fear stimulated adrenaline that the home owner is producing makes it difficult to guage the strength of any blow.

Most farmers believe that 'a good gun, a sharp spade and a short memory' is the best answer to dogs intent on sheep worrying. Involvement of dog owners and the police is best avoided unless a big claim in necessary. When I read cases like the above and the Tony Martin miscarriage of justice I'm not sure that similar action toward burglars shouldn't serve best in isolated rural areas either.

[Flopsy]

from what I understand about the cricket bat. The man and his son, chased the burgular down the street and then preceded to beat the ###### out of his head with a cricket bat. Thats not self defence.

[Rovermatt]

from what I understand about the cricket bat. The man and his son, chased the burgular down the street and then preceded to beat the ###### out of his head with a cricket bat. Thats not self defence.

Ah there you go. There's often another side.

[Flopsy]

I know, I'd have full sympathy if it happened in the house with the guy defending his family, he didnt, he chased them down after there was no more threat to him or his family.

[adopted scouser]

I know, I'd have full sympathy if it happened in the house with the guy defending his family, he didnt, he chased them down after there was no more threat to him or his family.

SFW ? The bloke and his family were tied up, told to lie face down and if they moved they would be killed.

If I met the bloke I'd buy him a new bat. These incidents will increase as the rule of law collapses and the judicial system favours the scum.

Didn't he bat him unconscious ? Surely enough time to go back to the house, start the car and run the c**t over.

[tony gale's mic]

I know, I'd have full sympathy if it happened in the house with the guy defending his family, he didnt, he chased them down after there was no more threat to him or his family.

It's not just that, once you start allowing people to do whatever the hell they want with intruders then you're going to have five times as many difficult court cases where someones brutally murdered someone when they either werent intruding in the first place and put into a trap, or else when they werent acting in self defence.

If Mr Hussain acted purely in self defence then he's got every right to feel hard done by. But changing the laws so people can do whatever the hell they want with intruders will create far, far more problems.

[thenodrog]

from what I understand about the cricket bat. The man and his son, chased the burgular down the street and then preceded to beat the ###### out of his head with a cricket bat. Thats not self defence.

Quite right it's not Flopsy. It's more like a lesson in crime prevention. Remedial work carried out by public spirited volunteers. Good on them, I hope they get recognition in the New Years honours list cos it will benefit all of society and especially so if said scroat is confined to a wheelchair. I believe Duncan Ferguson gave much of his spare time to similar work.

[colin]

Quite right it's not Flopsy. It's more like a lesson in crime prevention. Remedial work carried out by public spirited volunteers. Good on them, I hope they get recognition in the New Years honours list cos it will benefit all of society and especially so if said scroat is confined to a wheelchair. I believe Duncan Ferguson gave much of his spare time to similar work.

An interesting viewpoint. It suggests that beating someone over the head so that they have brain damage is a substitute for the law of the land is acceptable behaviour.

Careful where you drop litter, or exceed the speed limit next time. (Not that I think you do either) I'll be there with Tiger Wood's golf clubs (I've just borrowed them) and I'll be there to administer a benefit for all of society.

BTW, What's the cost to society of looking after someone with brain damage & in a wheel chair for the rest of their lives?

[Stuart]

Colin. Couple of things to consider given your usual haste to be overtly liberal.

1) People do extreme things in extreme situations - especially if they've been threatened with death. I really hope you never have to go through anything like this.

2) Had the burglar fled - and the police actually found this person or people - and the CPS decided if there was enough evidence to go to court - and a judge actually convict. How long do you think they would have got in prison - if at all and what would happen to the next victim?

Do you think that this guy would have been a reformed character following his running away from that house? At least he won't be burgling anyone elses house any time soon.

If I was to booby trap my house in order to protect myself and my family, and it injured an intruder, I would have the book thrown at me. Criminals have more rights than the victims and I for one am bloody sick of it.

[colin]

"Couple of things to consider given your usual haste to be overtly liberal."

Careful Jisty. it was not "my usual haste" despite how much you may want it to be. Please don't attribute your preconceptions to my posts.

"Had the burglar fled - and the police actually found this person or people - and the CPS decided if there was enough evidence to go to court -

and a judge actually convict. How long do you think they would have got in prison - if at all and what would happen to the next victim?"

Isn't this the correct proccess of the law? The next time someone's dog dumps outside my or your door does it give us the right to give them brain

damage with a cricket bat?

Do you think that this guy would have been a reformed character following his running away from that house? At least he won't be burgling

anyone elses house any time soon.

Yup, brain damaged & unfit to plead to his crime, so that's a win. You & I will be paying for his care for the next 50 years.

If I was to booby trap my house in order to protect myself and my family, and it injured an intruder, I would have the book thrown at me.

Criminals have more rights than the victims and I for one am bloody sick of it.

Has this happened? Probably not so why are you "bloody sick of it?"

BTW Love your photo links

Cheers

Colin

[thenodrog]

BTW, What's the cost to society of looking after someone with brain damage & in a wheel chair for the rest of their lives?

Dunno but if we could manage to do that with every scrote it'd be cheap.... especially if it stopped em breeding ever more worthless offspring too. Liklehood such types are on all sorts of benefits anyway.

An alternative course of action would be to allow and encourage all the dodgy heroin thats been cut with some sort of deadly chemical etc to hit the streets unhindered. The end would justify the means, don't you agree?

[Stuart]

Careful Jisty. it was not "my usual haste" despite how much you may want it to be. Please don't attribute your preconceptions to my posts.

Just an observation. If I'm wrong, I apologise.

Isn't this the correct proccess of the law? The next time someone's dog dumps outside my or your door does it give us the right to give them brain damage with a cricket bat?

We aren't talking about dog dumps or vandalism. This thread is basically about the scum of the earth. Child killers, paedophiles, murderers and other freaks. I'd love you to put your opinion to the mother and father of the poor @#/? who was shot dead trying to defend his dad's post office. Hanging is too good for some of these people. How do you know that had the batting not taken place the burglars wouldn't have come back and carried out their threats?

Yup, brain damaged & unfit to plead to his crime, so that's a win. You & I will be paying for his care for the next 50 years.

Okay, but what's the alternative? Keep sending these people down for 6 months so that they can carry on doing the same to others. If the law doesn't change to actually deter these people "rough justice" such as this will become more common.

Has this happened? Probably not so why are you "bloody sick of it?"

I'm "bloody sick" of scum bags getting away with henious crimes and the law having more concern for the perpetrator than the victim.

BTW Love your photo links

I'll chose to take that comment as non-sarcastic - so thanks!

Cheers

Colin

See, it is possible to answer someone's questions, I see you managed to avoid answering either of my questions though and instead simply try to discredit my opinion. Bravo.