[Archived] Hang Em High

[yoda]

I suppose it's the same with the mindset (or lack of it) of eating bushmeat. With supermarkets selling cheap meat all over the country why do some of our imported minorities prefer to smuggle in the likes of monkey heads and gorilla's hands? The toothless threat of deportation is simply not enough of a deterrent.

I conour Gord, ie I agree

[tony gale's mic]

It's turning slowly but surely into a 3rd world one. Many accepted standards are in decline whilst some are in a tail spin.

Basically we cannot afford to maintain what we are used to cos manufacturing has been sacrificed by successive govts and without that as a wealth generator we are skint.

What's the longest amount of time you've ever spent in a 3rd world country?

[thenodrog]

What's the longest amount of time you've ever spent in a 3rd world country?

Depends what you consider 3rd world. List them please. Anyway most of us know plenty about the moon don't we?

[tony gale's mic]

Depends what you consider 3rd world. List them please. Anyway most of us know plenty about the moon don't we?

Since the original use of "third world" (ie non allies of either the US or USSR) is outdated and now people tend to use "developing countries" in its place, I'll go along with the IMF's list:

http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/weo/2009/02/weodata/groups.htm#oem

Though obviously there are exceptions: India, China and UAE are all listed, however spending a few days in Goa, Shanghai or Dubai don't really count for obvious reasons.

If you had spent time in any of those countries you'd know how ridiculous your comparison was.

[yoda]

Since the original use of "third world" (ie non allies of either the US or USSR) is outdated and now people tend to use "developing countries" in its place, I'll go along with the IMF's list:

http://www.imf.org/e.../groups.htm#oem

Though obviously there are exceptions: India, China and UAE are all listed, however spending a few days in Goa, Shanghai or Dubai don't really count for obvious reasons.

If you had spent time in any of those countries you'd know how ridiculous your comparison was.

I spend a lot of time in China (there now, nearly 2 months) and have worked in India, Gord is not far of with his comparison's

Goa is the pitts for a holiday resort, Shanghai still has lots of places that should be bulldozed (and they will be)

Not been to Dubai, don't really want to for obvious reasons

[thenodrog]

If you had spent time in any of those countries you'd know how ridiculous your comparison was.

5 countries. No more than a week in each. I'm not pretending to be some kind of latter day Livingstone though but I guess the poorest being Morocco. Those Berber Arabs and Nomads in the sticks don't have two bob to rub together. On the other hand Poland, Turkey and Croatia are in there but rather than lumping them together as developing nations I'd attempt to differentiate and probably count them as 'Second' world.

[bazza]

A lot of the third world used to be coloured pink.

In those days it wasn't the third world.

Since it lost its pink it has become the third world.

[thenodrog]

A lot of the third world used to be coloured pink.

In those days it wasn't the third world.

Since it lost its pink it has become the third world.

Damned right bazza! It was the British Empire (the one that the sun never set on). I might be wrong but I think Independence has harmed the citizens of many countries more than it's helped.

[thenodrog]

And now a little girl beaten and starved to death while the fridge was bursting downstairs. The spectacularly limp social workers who were shouted at when they approached the house, so decided not to enter the premises.

What's happening to this country ?

It appears it's not just here. Hows this for one sick motherf.

http://news.aol.co.uk/mother-admits-killing-six-babies/article/201003150715268703414

[thenodrog]

I don't really know where to put this so here will do I suppose.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/mar/18/irish-catholic-church-child-abuse

Matthew 19

13 Then were there brought unto him little children, that he should put his hands on them, and pray: and the disciples rebuked them. 14 But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven. 15 And he laid his hands on them, and departed thence.

When I was at school I was lead to believe that this meant something entirely different.

The older I get the more I mistrust religion. That lot in Ireland must have been a nest of vipers and goodness only knows what is carried out in the name of religion the world over. Like showbiz and politics religion appears to attract more than it's share of sexual deviants and social misfits doesn't it?

[adopted scouser]

The older I get the more I mistrust religion.

Beats me why people need imaginary friends anyway. How can this stuff infect the weak minded so much, that a bloke draws a cartoon and thousands literally want to kill him for it ?

Insane.

[bazza]

Like showbiz and politics religion appears to attract more than it's share of sexual deviants and social misfits doesn't it?

No. Planet Earth attracts them.

[adopted scouser]

'Teetering on the edge' eh ? See you in hell shltbag.

[broadsword]

There's only two pages on ICBINF these days, wasn't sure where to post this, so I thought i'd post it on the frothy indignation, can-you-believe-it-missus thread.

Islamic driving problem

That's got to be unsafe. I doubt you could come up with a mode fo clothing that would make it more difficult to be aware of what is going on around you.

I'm more than willing to allow people the liberty to practice their religion as they see fit, but not if it puts other people at risk, or other similarly common-sense stipulations.

I think it's a bad reflection upon religion in general that a follower is obligated to dress up in something that restricts vision and hearing just to do everyday tasks like driving. What would happen if she had to chop down trees with a chainsaw, would she need to wear a full face veil then? Or how about a family barbecue, or maybe that's men's work?

[broadsword]

PS: I'd say the same whatever religion this person followed. It's just an observation that people's religious practices and habits (as it were) have to fit within the parameters of the law, as well as just everyday social expectations.

It's just that Islam in particular is the most visibly anachronous mainstream religion. Although hare krishnas I guess do look a bit out of place on a Saturday night in Leicester Square.

[thenodrog]

Odd choice of thread Colin.

Anyway....

Health and Safety tend to get involved in most things now. They have almost ultimate power, what is their stance? Dragging of feet I'd assume, but I think once someone is inevitably killed and it is clearly proven that the driver's vision was impaired by some unecessary headgear then the Association of British Insurers and the MIB will bring in mandatory stipulations to cover it.

Should solve the issue whilst keeping our timid politicians noses clean.

[broadsword]

Wake up a bit too early did we?

It's not Colin, it's Bryan. And it happened in France, not the UK.

I couldn't find the "I say I say I say, there's a bomb in one's turban" thread, so I stuck it here.

[thenodrog]

Wake up a bit too early did we?

It's not Colin, it's Bryan. And it happened in France, not the UK.

I couldn't find the "I say I say I say, there's a bomb in one's turban" thread, so I stuck it here.

Must have. Sorry Bryan/Colin. I realise it's France but I did wonder how or why the H&S steer clear of the issue in this country.

[broadsword]

No problem.

I really don't know, I haven't seen it happen here. The phrase "an accident waiting to happen" springs to mind.

[Claytons Left Boot]

Another day, another murder somewhere in the UK. This time a young lad in Bolton. Whilst in Switzerland, I would log on each day to keep in touch with all things blue and white. Before I got to this site, I would glance down at the Yahoo headlines and, just about every day, there would be a report of a murder. Where will it end.

We had the chance to live and work in Switzerland on a permanent basis but, for reasons that I won't bore you with, decided to return to the UK.

We used to come home once a month for a long weekend and each time we drove down Bolton Road, Darwen in the taxi, I would utter an expletive and say we're back. Saturday morning would be a trip into town to briefly mix with the inhabitants of Darwen, or to use its other name, England's answer to Chernobyl. Usually 16 year olds, dressed in scruffy grey track suits and pushing prams. Ok, so not everyone is like that and there are some fine people in the town, but you get the idea of what a small, industrial, northern town looks like.

Twenty or thirty years ago, I used to say how lucky I was to have been born English. Now I wish I had been born Norwegian, Swedish, Danish, Finnish, Dutch, German, Austrian, Swiss, Spanish or Portuguese, to name a few.

Nowhere is perfect, of course, but how have we descended to the level we're currently at?

[LeChuck]

I can't disagree at all with the northern town thing, you've perfectly described Barrow there.

The murder thing is a bit ill-judged though, murder rates are actually higher in Switzerland. I think we just have a tendency to sensationalise news over here, giving the impression that likes murder and paedophilia are higher than they actually are, or at least that they are worse than they used to be.

[jim mk2]

Another day, another murder somewhere in the UK.

A quick google brings this up http://www.independe...ow-1748627.html showing the murder rate at a 20-year low and I might be wrong but I'm sure I've read elsewhere that serious crimes are no more prevalent now than 40 - 50 years ago so I'm not sure why you start your moan "Another day, another murder somewhere in the UK".

I feel very lucky to have been born English and take immense pride in this country and Lancashire in particular. I've been to Switzerland and while it's a pleasant sort of place I wouldn't want to live there and saw plenty of things that I did not like. As you say, nowhere is perfect.

As they get older people often say "the country's going to the dogs" because they feel it is in some way worse than the country they remember growing up in when in fact it has changed and in most cases changed for the better.

[philipl]

Whether it is the Police, surveillance or society somehow improving, most crime statistics in the UK are going down.

If we ended drug prohibition, we'd be much more able to direct resources to doing something far more effective about the horror stories that end up in the red tops.

[Claytons Left Boot]

I'm not sure why you start your moan....

You just can't resist can you?

Yes, it's great that homicide levels are showing a dscreasing trend, but 648 in 2008/09? Why should there be any? I know there are design faults with human beings and serious design faults with English human beings, but 648 in one year?

[philipl]

Every homicide is one too many.

The 648 in the UK compares with over 17,000 in the USA- I guess the death penalty is an effective deterrent.