SouthAussieRover Posted August 18, 2012 Posted August 18, 2012 His mother has just died. RIP if possible.
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thenodrog Posted August 18, 2012 Author Posted August 18, 2012 Poor woman. How poignant is the timing? No doubt this latest issue tipped the balance for her. Her life was ruined and filled with anguish by that pair of sicko's and she has been tortured by them ever since by them refusing to reveal the place where they disposed of her sons body. Yet all we hear about is Brady bleating on about his rights to continue his hunger strike..... 6 effin years he's been on it apparently so how determined is he? Where tf is there any justice to be found? Why do we not simply chuck away the key and facilitate Brady's desire to it's logical conclusion? Anybody who supports the preposterous Human Rights legislation care to answer why Brady deserves them and Mrs Bennett was denied them?
adopted scouser Posted August 18, 2012 Posted August 18, 2012 Was having a great day at work until I saw this on Sky News. I don't know what would be left of Keith by now or if he could be found at all, but reunited with any representation of him however small would have been good. Shame they couldn't have told her they found him just before she passed away.
Aberdeen Blue Posted August 18, 2012 Posted August 18, 2012 Poor, poor woman. RIP Winnie. As for Brady, I really hope you have many long years of suffering yet
roverandout Posted August 18, 2012 Posted August 18, 2012 sorry i didnt know she was dying, i take what i said back
thenodrog Posted August 18, 2012 Author Posted August 18, 2012 sorry i didnt know she was dying, i take what i said back One could argue we all are. Fact remains that the perpetrators have more rights than the victims in this country. This man should have been made to come clean by whatever means necessary. Shame on Lord Chief justice Woolf for wanting Hindley and Brady freed.
Backroom Mike E Posted August 18, 2012 Backroom Posted August 18, 2012 At least she's no longer suffering and has likely found her son in the afterlife (for those of us who believe such things, anyway).
Rovermatt Posted August 21, 2012 Posted August 21, 2012 So far as I'm concerned once a person becomes a convicted murderer he's little better than an animal and forfeits his human rights. What happens with wrongful convictions? Brady's not even human. Vile evil sick scum Agreed. Brady is a genuine psychopath, a pure monster. It has always amazed me that Hindley received more media coverage than the obvious brains of the operation. Perhaps the press, and society, find it difficult to truly study a man so clearly lacking in any sort of humanity.
Steve Moss Posted August 22, 2012 Posted August 22, 2012 What happens with wrongful convictions? Are you suggesting a prospect, even far fetched, of a wrongful conviction in Brady's case? If not, then get out the shop tools. The only thing that matters to that sort is themselves. He'll talk soon enough.
Rovermatt Posted August 22, 2012 Posted August 22, 2012 Are you suggesting a prospect, even far fetched, of a wrongful conviction in Brady's case? If not, then get out the shop tools. The only thing that matters to that sort is themselves. He'll talk soon enough. The post that I quoted made no mention of Brady, a man clearly guilty of horrible crimes.
colin Posted August 23, 2012 Posted August 23, 2012 Are you suggesting a prospect, even far fetched, of a wrongful conviction in Brady's case? If not, then get out the shop tools. The only thing that matters to that sort is themselves. He'll talk soon enough. Steve, I don't think that Rovermatt was suggesting that Ian Brady was wrongfully convicted, just that there are a number of people imprisioned who have been wrongfully convicted of crimes that they didn't commit. The Birmingham Six are the most obvious example. There are others of course.
Paul Posted August 23, 2012 Posted August 23, 2012 Trouble is Colin for some that is a price worth paying
adopted scouser Posted August 23, 2012 Posted August 23, 2012 Trouble is Colin for some many that is a price worth paying
broadsword Posted August 23, 2012 Posted August 23, 2012 Brady's been trying to kill himself for over a decade now. What a miserable existence he must have. Same for Huntley. If life imprisonment was the cushy option, why do they try to kill themselves. I say keep the evil illegitimates alive.
thenodrog Posted August 23, 2012 Author Posted August 23, 2012 Brady's been trying to kill himself for over a decade now. What a miserable existence he must have. Same for Huntley. If life imprisonment was the cushy option, why do they try to kill themselves. I say keep the evil illegitimates alive. dont be taken in Bryan. They are playing at it. They wouldn't be so flippant about it if the state sanctioned and enforced their execution would they? There really is no ro reason on this earth for the state to keep funding their worthless existence is there?
broadsword Posted August 23, 2012 Posted August 23, 2012 Except to avoid stooping to their level of murder. Imagine waking up day after day in a cell knowing you'll never breathe free air. It would torment me.
jim mk2 Posted August 23, 2012 Posted August 23, 2012 I wish all those who want state execution would go and live in the US - and leave us alone to enjoy this civilised country.
Rovermatt Posted August 23, 2012 Posted August 23, 2012 Brady's been trying to kill himself for over a decade now. What a miserable existence he must have. Same for Huntley. If life imprisonment was the cushy option, why do they try to kill themselves. I say keep the evil illegitimates alive. Exactly. People tend to underestimate liberty. Until it's taken away.
Steve Moss Posted August 23, 2012 Posted August 23, 2012 Brady's been trying to kill himself for over a decade now. What a miserable existence he must have. Same for Huntley. If life imprisonment was the cushy option, why do they try to kill themselves. I say keep the evil illegitimates alive. The operative word in your proposition is "try" to kill themselves. If they were serious about it, as opposed to making attention seeking efforts, they'd succeed. I say kill them. We can take the money we save housing and feeding them and build a park instead. The post that I quoted made no mention of Brady, a man clearly guilty of horrible crimes. No one should be convicted unless they are "clearly" guilty. The fact that it remains in an issue in the US and the UK means our judicial system needs to take a close look at itself. Using Brady's case as an example, would you support torture of the "clearly" guilty Brady in order to put an innocent victim at ease?
Rovermatt Posted August 23, 2012 Posted August 23, 2012 The operative word in your proposition is "try" to kill themselves. If they were serious about it, as opposed to making attention seeking efforts, they'd succeed. I say kill them. We can take the money we save housing and feeding them and build a park instead. No one should be convicted unless they are "clearly" guilty. The fact that it remains in an issue in the US and the UK means our judicial system needs to take a close look at itself. Using Brady's case as an example, would you support torture of the "clearly" guilty Brady in order to put an innocent victim at ease? I'm not sure what you're getting at. You suggested that I was somehow claiming that Brady may have been erroneously convicted. That is "clearly" not the case. The man is quite obviously guilty. I'm not sure what torture has to do with anything. I do know that on this side of the pond we try to avoid torturing people, even depraved scum like Ian Brady. Or at least not since the dark days of the Birmingham Six, Maguire Seven and Guildford Four.
jim mk2 Posted August 23, 2012 Posted August 23, 2012 I say kill them. We can take the money we save housing and feeding them and build a park instead. You can also buy more guns. Fun isn't it, this killing business ?
Paul Posted August 24, 2012 Posted August 24, 2012 I say kill them. We can take the money we save housing and feeding them and build a park instead. I can't even comprehend thinking like this. Can I ask how you would feel if you shot a person dead? I still recall today how I felt as a child the one and only time I killed a living creature - shot a robin with my air rifle - it wasn't good. No one should be convicted unless they are "clearly" guilty. The fact that it remains in an issue in the US and the UK means our judicial system needs to take a close look at itself. I feel the more pertinent fact is one can never be 100% certain of guilt or innocence. The greatest flaw is to take a life as the execution of an innocent person cannot be reversed. The price we pay for this being to lock Brady and others away for life - to my mind a greater punishment. I'd rather be dead than live with no hope. Using Brady's case as an example, would you support torture of the "clearly" guilty Brady in order to put an innocent victim at ease? Do you mean torture him to establish the location of Keith Bennett's body? I can't help but feel advocates of this approach place themselves in a very dangerous position.
broadsword Posted August 24, 2012 Posted August 24, 2012 The operative word in your proposition is "try" to kill themselves. If they were serious about it, as opposed to making attention seeking efforts, they'd succeed. I say kill them. We can take the money we save housing and feeding them and build a park instead. More expensive to execute people though. I would contend that they're not successful because they're being closely watched. Either that or they're not quite brave enough to see it through. In which case they're stuck between a rock and a hard place. Groundhog day without joy or hope for the next 40 years or taking your own life which you don't really want to do.
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