[Archived] Hang Em High

[T.J.Newton]

I knew all of that but it's shocking seeing it all listed out. Quite why/how they were ruled out as suspects, I don't know.

don't they have a group of witnesses/friends backing up there story?

IF the parents where actually involved in the young girls 'disappearance' then odds are that their friends where in on it to, I've always felt that nights events where likely far more sinister than a random opportunistic child abduction.

[Mike E]

don't they have a group of witnesses/friends backing up there story?

IF the parents where actually involved in the young girls 'disappearance' then odds are that their friends where in on it to, I've always felt that nights events where likely far more sinister than a random opportunistic child abduction.

A part of me thinks she may have had a tragic death (heart defect, previously undetected, perhaps?) and the family/friends could have panicked and 'hidden' her. I certainly don't feel I could legitimately allege such a chain of events. And yet, as you say, there does appear something more sinister that happened.

Or else, she was actually kidnapped and the lack of evidence and 'one minute window' = a very well executed plan. Who knows?

[T.J.Newton]

One(or both) of the parents are doctors(GP's I think) so unlikely they would panic to that extent over a sudden illness, I doubt we will ever fully know the truth, whom ever is guilty of the Childs disappearance did an extraordinary job of covering there tracks that's for sure.

[gumboots]

I've always felt very strongly that the parents knew a lot more than they were telling. You have to wonder if it was one of those tragic things where kid is being a pain, you know carrying on cos they know mum and dad are going out, parent slaps child who falls and

Hits head. Parents can't admit to it so hide body. May be way off the mark and they may be victims of a terribly tragic crime but something has never quite rung true in their version of events

[Mike E]

I've always felt very strongly that the parents knew a lot more than they were telling. You have to wonder if it was one of those tragic things where kid is being a pain, you know carrying on cos they know mum and dad are going out, parent slaps child who falls and

Hits head. Parents can't admit to it so hide body. May be way off the mark and they may be victims of a terribly tragic crime but something has never quite rung true in their version of events

I'll be honest, it was the whole Shannon Matthews shambles that made me think again and look at it in more detail.

Esp the fact Gerry was caught LOLing only days later is what bugs me most.

[gumboots]

btw how come you are now back with your own name and pic? Is it the graduate thing that suddenly made you do it? Perhaps I should come out too although it's a long time since i got my degree. Or have you just been reading the other thread?

[Mike E]

btw how come you are now back with your own name and pic? Is it the graduate thing that suddenly made you do it? Perhaps I should come out too although it's a long time since i got my degree. Or have you just been reading the other thread?

Kind of self-policing tbh. Saw Glenn's point about posting under real names and thought I'd go for it. It might even encourage ppl to come and chat at Ewood. Would like to meet more on here and it keeps me accountable for what I post.

[Steve Moss]

Ditto. I've noticed a tendency to double check my online behavior when I use my real name, which is why I make it a habit now. Anonymity is fine and I understand why some want it, but I personally would rather act like a gentleman more often than not and so self-policing is critical if one wants to meet that aspirational goal.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

What were you like before Steve ? Did you fall off the edge of the planet ?

[Steve Moss]

Pretty much the same, but more likely to lash out if someone gets insulting. When I'm using my real name as opposed to an alias there's more incentive to remain calm.

[Silencio]

Gerry McCann is also very high up in Masonic circles I have heard...

[T.J.Newton]

I think you've watched to many horror films(and me to as that's the kind of scenario my mind jumps to when i'm wondering about what may have happened)

[ABBEY]

YET ANOTHER COWARDLY ATTACK ON OUR SOLDIERS

[Steve Kean's Hypnotoad]

YET ANOTHER COWARDLY ATTACK ON OUR SOLDIERS

In my opinion its about time an attack on a member of the armed forces is punished even more severely that an attack on the police. The severity of the sentences given to people involved in the riots a couple of years ago was quite shocking, people were getting prison sentences in the years for fairly minor parts. If the government can choose to wield the justice system like a sledge hammer against attacks on itself, then it can start wielding it in a similar manner for attacks on its military forces. Everyone involved in that attack should get 10 years in prison with no option for parole.

[Amo]

I've always felt very strongly that the parents knew a lot more than they were telling. You have to wonder if it was one of those tragic things where kid is being a pain, you know carrying on cos they know mum and dad are going out, parent slaps child who falls and

Hits head. Parents can't admit to it so hide body. May be way off the mark and they may be victims of a terribly tragic crime but something has never quite rung true in their version of events

Or, you know, parents dope the children so they can leave them unattended and go for a jolly with their mates down the road. Eldest child wakes up in a dazed state and has a fatal accident or was accidentally overdosed. Mother returns to apartment, discovers dead daughter, and rushes back to the restaurant to get her husband (leaving her other two children behind). Cover up ensues.

Purely a hypothetical scenario, of course.

[perthblue02]

Or, you know, parents dope the children so they can leave them unattended and go for a jolly with their mates down the road. Eldest child wakes up in a dazed state and has a fatal accident or was accidentally overdosed. Mother returns to apartment, discovers dead daughter, and rushes back to the restaurant to get her husband (leaving her other two children behind). Cover up ensues.

Purely a hypothetical scenario, of course.

Goncalo Amaral's (ex Portuguese detective) book will certainly make interesting reading although still not officially available in English even though he won the case were the McCann's tried to get the book banned.

Here's a roughly translated pdf file of it http://www.ukoverload.com/holding/download/Maddie.pdf and a subtitled documentary of it

Plenty of information available on various websites that certainly question the McCanns and their group of "friends" actions and publicity blitz just after the event. The timing of the setting up of the company (not charity) and the subsequent use of funds is certainly interesting

[Jock]

Goncalo Amaral's (ex Portuguese detective) book will certainly make interesting reading although still not officially available in English even though he won the case were the McCann's tried to get the book banned.

Here's a roughly translated pdf file of it http://www.ukoverload.com/holding/download/Maddie.pdf and a subtitled documentary of it

Plenty of information available on various websites that certainly question the McCanns and their group of "friends" actions and publicity blitz just after the event. The timing of the setting up of the company (not charity) and the subsequent use of funds is certainly interesting

Theres a clip of Gerry on an airport bus. Comes across as an aggressive character.

I hope it was an accident that was covered up. Atleast then Maddy wont have suffered at the hands of a Paedophile.

[Amo]

I hope it was an accident that was covered up. Atleast then Maddy wont have suffered at the hands of a Paedophile.

Even if you're naive enough to believe the official story, the pair of them still should've been held accountable for child neglect - leaving three young children unattended while they went wining and dining. Instead, they got off scot free. The country closed ranks around them, attacked the Portuguese police (who were onto the McCanns), bungling any further investigation, and gave them £1m towards the 'Maddie Fund' which was spent to pay their mortgage and their new celebrity lifestyle. I wonder if this would've happened if the McCanns had been a couple of commoners from t'estate instead of two white-bread, middle-class doctors?

[Stuart]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20520372

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23245254

So we can't exterminate the vermin, now people like Brady and Bridger can't be told that "we have thrown away the key" - because apparently it's "inhuman and degrading".

Seriously, who are these buffoons in their ivory tower that is the European Court of Human Rights? Lunatics in charge of the asylum. I really hope these "law makers" are on the receiving end of their decisions one day - because some poor @#/? will be.

If they were dogs, they'd have been put down and they wouldn't have to worry about being "degraded".

[Jock]

Even if you're naive enough to believe the official story, the pair of them still should've been held accountable for child neglect - leaving three young children unattended while they went wining and dining. Instead, they got off scot free. The country closed ranks around them, attacked the Portuguese police (who were onto the McCanns), bungling any further investigation, and gave them £1m towards the 'Maddie Fund' which was spent to pay their mortgage and their new celebrity lifestyle. I wonder if this would've happened if the McCanns had been a couple of commoners from t'estate instead of two white-bread, middle-class doctors?

Is Gerry a freemason? Didn't he get help from dead-eyed Brown.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20520372

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23245254

So we can't exterminate the vermin, now people like Brady and Bridger can't be told that "we have thrown away the key" - because apparently it's "inhuman and degrading".

Seriously, who are these buffoons in their ivory tower that is the European Court of Human Rights? Lunatics in charge of the asylum. I really hope these "law makers" are on the receiving end of their decisions one day - because some poor @#/? will be.

If they were dogs, they'd have been put down and they wouldn't have to worry about being "degraded".

NWO where theres no borders but a lot of road taxes if you want the freedom to travel.

[Stuart]

NWO where theres no borders but a lot of road taxes if you want the freedom to travel.

Part of me does wonder if it's to do with the potential EU referendum that these decisions are being made. Probably want us Brits well out of it.

Not really fussed about the freedom to travel across Europe but avoiding increased trade restrictions is one of the very few reasons to continue to be involved.

A little islander I may be but that's because I was born on a little island...

[Amo]

Is Gerry a freemason? Didn't he get help from dead-eyed Brown.

He did indeed. Allegedly, one of his first calls after the disappearance was to a friend of his with close ties to Gordon Brown.

[Amo]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20520372

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23245254

So we can't exterminate the vermin, now people like Brady and Bridger can't be told that "we have thrown away the key" - because apparently it's "inhuman and degrading".

Seriously, who are these buffoons in their ivory tower that is the European Court of Human Rights? Lunatics in charge of the asylum. I really hope these "law makers" are on the receiving end of their decisions one day - because some poor @#/? will be.

If they were dogs, they'd have been put down and they wouldn't have to worry about being "degraded".

The Tories want an end to Legal Aid, don't they? Seems as good a story as any to push that agenda.

[Jock]

Rothschilds run the show. Forget Labour or Tory, theyre just plebs like the rest of us.

[jim mk2]

The loony right is sure to jump on this as example of Brussels excess but they should remember that the right to have the sentence reviewed is quite different from a right to be released.

England and Wales lag behind other European countries in the use of the whole-life sentence – the only other EU country which uses it is Holland. The repeated calls to withdraw from the European convention of human rights carry a huge risk of undermining Britain's reputation abroad.

There is only so much Britain can say to other countries about their human rights records when it shows disdain for judgments which go against it at Strasbourg.

Making political capital at the expense of the rule of law is a dangerous game and Teresa May needs to tread carefully. If she were sensible she would realise this is a fuss about nothing.