[Archived] Rovers Takeover Thread

[Ghostwriter]

Trouble is africa, is well covered by the French, Spanish clubs and has been for a while. Also what the crack with kids around 10-12, do they need work permits??? Bringing kids into the youth squad is fine but since they are already at least 16-18, then you are hunting for blossoming talent, poaching off other clubs, fees 95K a year, it would soon add up. this would be the first step, the second would be exactly as arsenal have done there academy is blossoming and will bloom in a couple of years, Lansbury, Wilshere to name but two who have come through the ranks this year (huge potential), 6 contracts I believe where given, thats a high number in the first place then add that there all English. Arsenal however have the benefit of Wenger's stability and long term vision, we do not.

Bringing in coaches on visits is fine, but what do they do, one session with Pierre, then another with Alfonso (all with different ideas and philosophy's). to have good production you need a single vision not constantly changing ones, it will be too confusing.

Arsenal do not leave out local talent, please see above.

Personally, if people want to kick up stink because we lose one player on 10K-15K a week fine its an investment in the future of the club and those that can't see would be so narrow minded, I would laugh.

Gally has had so many chances at championship level and even then he has not really set the world on fire.

Wilcox and Dunn are the only two regular first teamers in 18 years (correct me if I'm wrong). I hate to think where that would put us statistically, with every other league club. What happened to De Vita, came with huge promise, released whats happened?? The whole Youth structure from academy through to U18's needs an overhaul, perhaps they should take greater advantage of the link with LJMU!

Duff, Tiny to a degree

[modes98]

Shay Given might disagree as well. Although with another club.

[Majiball]

Duff, Tiny to a degree

We signed Duffers at 18 so i did not count him also Tiny as he never really cemented his place, Given though is a good one should have remembered him.

Its still not good really though not when you look at the rest of the premiership teams or even outside of the Prem, 3 in 18 years, at the present rate we will not have another one till 2014 - SHOCKING

[92er]

We signed Duffers at 18 so i did not count him also Tiny as he never really cemented his place, Given though is a good one should have remembered him.

Its still not good really though not when you look at the rest of the premiership teams or even outside of the Prem, 3 in 18 years, at the present rate we will not have another one till 2014 - SHOCKING

Duff came in at 16.

I would also count Damien Johnson.

[Majiball]

Duff came in at 16.

I would also count Damien Johnson.

I wouldn't include Johnson, I would only include players that have cemented a first team place, Johnson never really did this, same reason I would not include Tiny, they were moved on as not deemed good enough, Gallacgher would also fall into this catorgorie.

I would like to think I'm not alone in the thinking that its really not good enough.

[Beta Ray Bill]

I wouldn't include Johnson, I would only include players that have cemented a first team place, Johnson never really did this, same reason I would not include Tiny, they were moved on as not deemed good enough, Gallacgher would also fall into this catorgorie.

I would like to think I'm not alone in the thinking that its really not good enough.

Yet you include Given who played 2 games?

[SAS]

I wouldn't include Johnson, I would only include players that have cemented a first team place, Johnson never really did this, same reason I would not include Tiny, they were moved on as not deemed good enough, Gallacgher would also fall into this catorgorie.

I would like to think I'm not alone in the thinking that its really not good enough.

I think you should include players that have generated a fee, as it really means they were kinda productive for the club

[DanLad]

I think that the likes of Gally, Derbyshire etc should be considered to be a relative sucess. Not 'cemented' first team players, but certainly squad players, and we need squad players, too.

[bob fleming]

Yet you include Given who played 2 games?

And was bought from Celtic. Duff played for the Youth team for at least one season - so he couldn't have been 18 when he came in at the start of that particular season. Johnson and Taylor also played regularly enough for the first 11 so it's strange you don't want to include them Magicball. David May another ommitted / forgotten.

"Gallacgher" is still at the club by the way. Derbs came in from Arrod but we should count him as well.

Whilst I agree that the number of players coming through over the last few years is poor we do need to consider that we're a Top Ten team - the standard required to walk into that team as a "youth" is extremely high - it's not easy by any stretch.

The Academy has been up and running for approx 10 years now - costs how much per annum? Why bother? We brought more players through when we were playing at Pleasy and Old Langho.

[PAFELL]

And was bought from Celtic. Duff played for the Youth team for at least one season - so he couldn't have been 18 when he came in at the start of that particular season. Johnson and Taylor also played regularly enough for the first 11 so it's strange you don't want to include them Magicball. David May another ommitted / forgotten.

"Gallacgher" is still at the club by the way. Derbs came in from Arrod but we should count him as well.

Whilst I agree that the number of players coming through over the last few years is poor we do need to consider that we're a Top Ten team - the standard required to walk into that team as a "youth" is extremely high - it's not easy by any stretch.

The Academy has been up and running for approx 10 years now - costs how much per annum? Why bother? We brought more players through when we were playing at Pleasy and Old Langho.

Duff joined Rovers as a trainee - but made his senior debut against Leicester when he was 18 years old. Therefore he started at rovers younger age than 18 years old.

[DavidMailsTightPerm]

And was bought from Celtic. Duff played for the Youth team for at least one season - so he couldn't have been 18 when he came in at the start of that particular season. Johnson and Taylor also played regularly enough for the first 11 so it's strange you don't want to include them Magicball. David May another ommitted / forgotten.

"Gallacgher" is still at the club by the way. Derbs came in from Arrod but we should count him as well.

Whilst I agree that the number of players coming through over the last few years is poor we do need to consider that we're a Top Ten team - the standard required to walk into that team as a "youth" is extremely high - it's not easy by any stretch.

The Academy has been up and running for approx 10 years now - costs how much per annum? Why bother? We brought more players through when we were playing at Pleasy and Old Langho.

If we are looking at players that generated revenue - add Garner & Beattie - and I am sure there will be others that moved on for nominal fees with possible sell on cluase - Danns ?

[bob fleming]

Duff joined Rovers as a trainee - but made his senior debut against Leicester when he was 18 years old. Therefore he started at rovers younger age than 18 years old.

Indeed. He played in the same Youth team as Damien Johnson. Remember watching them at Ewood one night in the Youth Cup - they and the team were magic. In fact Johnson was probably nore skillful than Duffer back then. Perhaps someone could back me up on this - it is true (no one will believe me!).

DMTP - in terms of players moving on for cash - I'm struggling to name any others in recent years! There must be more?

[Blofeld]

I am very worried about this Chaudry fella. Whats that all about and he wants to add another £10m? To quote that bloke off Platoon....'I've got a bad feeling about this'

That and Judas not exactly setting things alight so far.

[Paul]

And will no doubt eventually sell the club to the right buyer who can move the club foward.

Not to some two bob geezer who got bored renting flats.

Blackburn Rovers are currently the 7th best club in the richest league in the world. The Trust is probably the most secure form of ownership available to a football club. Clearly the Trustees want to sell and are trying to find a quality suitor. All we've seen to date is a stream of blokes with a few quid in the bank. None of them have proved good enough to own the club. The latest is arguing about £10m when he has the chance to buy, outright, a Premiership club for around £40-45m. These potential invetstors are having a laugh, either they have money or they haven't. None have shown any real wealth so far.

Finding the extra £10m could be a test for Chowdrey, if he fails that's another car salesman found out. The longer we stay with the Trust the better.

[tony gale's mic]

Blackburn Rovers are currently the 7th best club in the richest league in the world. The Trust is probably the most secure form of ownership available to a football club. Clearly the Trustees want to sell and are trying to find a quality suitor. All we've seen to date is a stream of blokes with a few quid in the bank. None of them have proved good enough to own the club. The latest is arguing about £10m when he has the chance to buy, outright, a Premiership club for around £40-45m. These potential invetstors are having a laugh, either they have money or they haven't. None have shown any real wealth so far.

Finding the extra £10m could be a test for Chowdrey, if he fails that's another car salesman found out. The longer we stay with the Trust the better.

The Trust aren't giving us any more money, I don't see how staying with them is better. And all this 7th best club thing, while true, isn't really that relevant. Look at the potential for returns, for generating revenue, if the League was based on that we'd be in a relegation battle each season.

[Ste B]

The Trust aren't giving us any more money, I don't see how staying with them is better. And all this 7th best club thing, while true, isn't really that relevant. Look at the potential for returns, for generating revenue, if the League was based on that we'd be in a relegation battle each season.

On the other hand they arent taking anything out either.

Any investor in the club would be wanting to get a return on their investment, so any extra monies made could go into their pockets rather than on players.

[Wild Irish Rover]

Anyone else noticed the implications of Osama Bin Laden's family expressing an interest in Newcastle? Namely that the 'nailed on' barcode Mike Ashley is all of a sudden making it known that he'd like the club taking off his hands.. So much for a rich man's plaything, eh - I wonder if we would be seeing pictures of Ashley slumming it with five bellies and his mates any more should he actually sell??

Apart from the 2.5X crowds I don't really see what economic difference there is between Rovers and Newcastle, so why they can be valued at £300 million and we are struggling to get an investor to stump up £40 million really baffles me.

Having said that, if there was a super rich footwear and sports gear tycoon knocking around with a fresh £300 mill in his pockets and looking for a well run and consistently successful brand to lock into (as opposed to a shoddy knocking shop for over-inflated egotistical yobs), then good old BRFC might well look very attractive.

I hope the Bin Laden connection does come off at the barcodes, though! I mean, the club are already a massive joke, but that would be just fantastic..

Looking forward to the new season. Don't envy the lads training today in the pishing rain

[rovgers]

Don't know which is worse struggling to find a new buyer or being linked with a possible take over bid by the Bin Laden family!!

[bob fleming]

Anyone else noticed the implications of Osama Bin Laden's family expressing an interest in Newcastle?

Bloody hell, you've got to feel some sympathy. Their name has really been dragged through the mud recently and now they're being linked with Newcastle. Where will it end?

[PAFELL]

Bloody hell, you've got to feel some sympathy. Their name has really been dragged through the mud recently and now they're being linked with Newcastle. Where will it end?

I may start feeling sorry for them at this rate 'Osman bin laden with newcastle'

[den]

Indeed. He played in the same Youth team as Damien Johnson. Remember watching them at Ewood one night in the Youth Cup - they and the team were magic. In fact Johnson was probably nore skillful than Duffer back then. Perhaps someone could back me up on this - it is true (no one will believe me!).

DMTP - in terms of players moving on for cash - I'm struggling to name any others in recent years! There must be more?

I'll help you out here, Mr Fleming. I used to go down to Brockhall to watch the under16's and under 18's - as it was then. Both teams would play on a Saturday morning, kicking off at the same time. So if you were clever enough, you could watch two games at the same time.

Duff and Johnson were both in the same team then. They were the two outstanding players in a really good young rovers team. At that time though, and this is only a matter of opinion, Johnson was the more complete player. He was the one that made the team tick, - he was the original midfield dynamo. Everything went through Jonty and he was the one that looked the better prospect [although they both looked exceptional].

[EwoodGlory]

I do have a lot of sympathy for Newcastle fans, with me being up here.

Looking through the papers yesterday, made me feel a bit better after I has read about us being interested in Andrews.

- Bin Ladens interested in buying them.

- Owner trying to sell the club for a profit.

- Big Sam article about Barton.

- Martins saying he would like to move to Arsenal.

They still have a bit of a sense of humour left, so I still try to wind them up

[thenodrog]

Looking forward to the new season. Don't envy the lads training today in the pishing rain

I bloody well do WIR!

[thenodrog]

Bloody hell, you've got to feel some sympathy. Their name has really been dragged through the mud recently and now they're being linked with Newcastle. Where will it end?

Executing a few captured Mackems at half time might make the national news I expect. They'll have to pick on mackems cos if they stick to the usual adulterers, boozers, blasphemers and thieves the toon'll be empty in no time.

[Blackburn Ender]

For some time now the assurances coming from JW - for both Hughes and Ince - is that we are in the market to buy new players.

£10m this summer, according to Nicko.

And we do not have to sell.

But if we do, then the money goes to the manager for replacements.

I'd say that's not a bad position to be in.

There's no chance that any of the potential bidders mentioned to date is going to give significantly more than this.

So, a new owner, unless it's a hugely rich new owner, is not going to make much difference, is it?

And look at Ashley at Newcastle who was reported to worth a billion or more. Still hasn't stopped the fair weather fool from wanting out.

For those wanting the Trust to sell - be careful what you wish for. It might come true.