[Archived] Rovers Takeover Thread

[gumboots]

There are some initial signs of encouragement coming out of the Ince regime:

1) Warnock has now stated he's happy to stay under Ince.

2) Samba has reportedly stated he's happy to stay under Ince.

3) The Trustees have restored their annual donation under Ince. (Mark Hughes must feel like he was wearing the wrong aftershave)

Bentley probably still wants to leave but that's down to him and he would probably have still wanted to leave had Hughes still been here.

As someone who wanted Ince in, even I'm not sure about the backroom team yet, but it's a case of "suck it and see" before leaping to any conclusions.

Oh I know it's not all doom and gloom but nor is it quite buzz and optimism. I would just like a bit of really positive news. the things you mention are sort of positive but not quite enough yet. As I said I'm sort of feeling like I'm weighing up whether the glass is half full or half empty.

[Majiball]

Oh I know it's not all doom and gloom but nor is it quite buzz and optimism. I would just like a bit of really positive news. the things you mention are sort of positive but not quite enough yet. As I said I'm sort of feeling like I'm weighing up whether the glass is half full or half empty.

Completely agree, i am concerned at the moment, we've had a crap summer so far, Hughes leaving, Bents, RSC speculation, Brad, non-takeovers, it just goes on. We do need something to pick us up and hopefully it will come soon!

[American]

Guy who owns the New England Patriots. Nice guy, great owner. He looked into buying Liverpool a while back. Obviously won't be him.

I'm 50/50 on him, especially with a small club like Rovers. He is a great owner of the Patriots, but the NFL is a huge money maker (the Green Bay Packers, in a much smaller market, complained that they ONLY made 20 million in profit this year and that something has to be done to stop this insanity and make them a better profit).

As owner of the Revs, it is obvious that he only wants to use them as a way to get more money out of his stadium. Hasn't spent huge sums and hasn't even hinted at using the "Beckham" exemption to bring in a quality player.

The flip side to that is he hired a great manager in Stevie Nicol who makes the most out of what he has to work with. Thank God no one in England has caught on to how brilliant of a manager he is.

That was my first thought when he said from Boston, and it still wouldn't surprise me to see him being the interested party.

[leftfooter]

Everton mortgage future but still plan to move

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/ju...n.premierleague

I suspect like many on here, I was wondering where clubs like Notlob and Everton were raising huge amounts of money breaking their record signing's season after season.

This article sheds some light on the great transfer game.

It also puts our plethora of signings the season before last in to perspective and vindicates John Williams' policy of buying before the prices spiraled in to the stratosphere.

Would those criticising the trust prefer the Everton approach?

Eventually everything has a price

Funny, I was under the impression that Everton was being funded by silent benefactors and had often heard Sir Philip Green's name associated with this.

[Brfcrule1]

Hi All,

Nicko any news in the people today regarding the takeover and any idea who the Americans are that are interested?

Laters all.

[nicko]

Hi All,

Nicko any news in the people today regarding the takeover and any idea who the Americans are that are interested?

Laters all.

No, yes and not worth bothering about would be my short answers.

[thenodrog]

Everton mortgage future but still plan to move

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/ju...n.premierleague

Funny, I was under the impression that Everton was being funded by silent benefactors and had often heard Sir Philip Green's name associated with this.

Isn't Leahy sticking his weight behind em too? 2 powerful men.

[John]

Hi All,

Nicko any news in the people today regarding the takeover and any idea who the Americans are that are interested?

Laters all.

Laters matey.

[my_name_is_Earl]

I hear Real Mallorca could be bought for £20 million by Freddy Shepherd. Finally a bloody club worth less than us!

[Paul]

From The Guardian article "While David Moyes demands assurances that his club have the means to match his ambition, Everton have added two more mortgages to their balance sheet. "

Who the hell does Moyes think he is? Hughes left for City for pretty much the same reason but hasn't said anything in the press while Moyes has pushed this line fairly consistently. If I spoke to my employers in this tone the response would be one of two possibilities:

Go get the business and we'll back you - which they have done when I've secured the business

OR

If you're that good go find somebody else's money to play with

Some of these managers need to wake up. Match my ambitions or I'll leave. Match my ambitions and if I fail sack me and compensate me. Now who is the loser in both scenarios? It's very easy to play with someone else's money, especailly when you've already banked sufficient to live on for the rest of you life.

[philipl]

So, in order of league position last season-

Mancs give Spuds a £25m take it or leave it over Berbatov, worried sick over number one asset Christina mild +ve might turn fatal -ve

Chelsea playing hardball over fat frank cos nobody pushes an oligarch around, Drogba dithering, Deco landed andwho knows what to follow but better than evens that Kaka will be a blue IMO Mild +ve might turn ++++ve

Arsenal quietly imploding on the field and going to pieces in the boardroom -ve might go anywhere but Samir Nasre is a huge ? in my book.

Liverpool finding out the hard way that sloppy seconds are not the way to an EPL manager's best players meanwhilst in a Tratoria in Turin right now, Juve top brass celebrate stitching Rafa something rotten. No cash. -ve probably going ---ve unless Rafa gets mega lucky

Everton- Moyes making are you as ambitious as me statements. -ve off to Kirkby Tesco with the dosh.

Villa- no keeper, probably no Barry but Lerner is Mr Cool even if MoN dithers, neutral probably at the moment.

Pompey- strengthened +++ve

Man City- better mgt, Joe, megabucks for Dunne +ve going --ve when Thaksin gets it in the pocket and a criminal record.

West Ham- Icelandic banking -ve

Newcastle- clothes retailer tells players to buy own clothes -ve so far

Sunderland- got loadsamoney so George McCartney the first name that leaps to everybody's lips? -ve so far

Boro- I'm in a minority on this but my tip for a BIG +ve this season

Notlob- not bad but won't be bothering top half

Ditto Wigan

Ditto Fulham

Newly promoted= Newly relegated

Get the picture? Solong as the new Rovers management keeps its wits and John Williams remains on form, we are in better hands with the Trust than any of the cash starved suitors who have been keeping Rothschilds in expensive London lunches.

[leftfooter]

From The Guardian article "While David Moyes demands assurances that his club have the means to match his ambition, Everton have added two more mortgages to their balance sheet. "

Who the hell does Moyes think he is? Hughes left for City for pretty much the same reason but hasn't said anything in the press while Moyes has pushed this line fairly consistently. If I spoke to my employers in this tone the response would be one of two possibilities:

Go get the business and we'll back you - which they have done when I've secured the business

OR

If you're that good go find somebody else's money to play with

Some of these managers need to wake up. Match my ambitions or I'll leave. Match my ambitions and if I fail sack me and compensate me. Now who is the loser in both scenarios? It's very easy to play with someone else's money, especailly when you've already banked sufficient to live on for the rest of you life.

After my previous Everton post, I was pretty much going to follow up with the point you have eloquently made.

Hughes' backing of a takeover at the club was clearly motivated by his own personal ambitions and consequent self-enrichment (in some respects like we allowed him to indulge his European fancy through the ill-advised Intertoto Cup).

Look at the unseemly manner he scrambled to take the questionable origin of the Thai baht once it was dangled in front of him.

One can only conclude that Moyes is also quite happy to pocket a huge pay rise whilst goading his directors publicly in to further mortgaging the long-term future of the club.

These guys have no interest in the long-term prospects of their espective clubs - why should they?

Just for once, I'd like to see the likes of Hughes or Moyes dig there hands in their own exceedingly deep pockets (I'd wager Hughes isn't far off the same financial league as his Cheshire neighbour & erstwhile Rovers investor Mr. Chowderhead) and sink some of their own readies into whichever club they are managing.

Lets then see how quickly they volunteer to place their investments in the hands of lenders.

[American]

Samir Nasre is a huge ? in my book.

That's him newcomer of the year then.

As for the rest, the usual blue and white tinted crap.

[philipl]

That's him newcomer of the year then.

As for the rest, the usual blue and white tinted crap.

At least you can buy it in the club shop now.

[S15]

Vintage Philip.

You forgot to mention us and how amazing me are.

Go on phil, gizza wave.

[philipl]

Good to see the reasoned arguments disagreeing with what I posted!

[S15]

As soon as we start reasoning you start making up words. Though the one liners at the end are usually belters.

[daveoftherovers]

I read all of this and actually agreed with all of it! I therefore second your predictions, including the one on Boro.

I also TOTALLY agree with your safe hands statement, the time bomb on many clubs is already ticking, especially when the credit crunch is yet to be played out fully and will last 2-3 years according to all the so called experts, put bluntly, how are they ALL going to pay the loans back and how long before the fans just can't afford to go or lose any remaining faith in mercenary players, agents and some Chief Executives?

.........And when you've got Platini wanting wage caps you know the game is in trouble!

So, in order of league position last season-

Mancs give Spuds a £25m take it or leave it over Berbatov, worried sick over number one asset Christina mild +ve might turn fatal -ve

Chelsea playing hardball over fat frank cos nobody pushes an oligarch around, Drogba dithering, Deco landed andwho knows what to follow but better than evens that Kaka will be a blue IMO Mild +ve might turn ++++ve

Arsenal quietly imploding on the field and going to pieces in the boardroom -ve might go anywhere but Samir Nasre is a huge ? in my book.

Liverpool finding out the hard way that sloppy seconds are not the way to an EPL manager's best players meanwhilst in a Tratoria in Turin right now, Juve top brass celebrate stitching Rafa something rotten. No cash. -ve probably going ---ve unless Rafa gets mega lucky

Everton- Moyes making are you as ambitious as me statements. -ve off to Kirkby Tesco with the dosh.

Villa- no keeper, probably no Barry but Lerner is Mr Cool even if MoN dithers, neutral probably at the moment.

Pompey- strengthened +++ve

Man City- better mgt, Joe, megabucks for Dunne +ve going --ve when Thaksin gets it in the pocket and a criminal record.

West Ham- Icelandic banking -ve

Newcastle- clothes retailer tells players to buy own clothes -ve so far

Sunderland- got loadsamoney so George McCartney the first name that leaps to everybody's lips? -ve so far

Boro- I'm in a minority on this but my tip for a BIG +ve this season

Notlob- not bad but won't be bothering top half

Ditto Wigan

Ditto Fulham

Newly promoted= Newly relegated

Get the picture? Solong as the new Rovers management keeps its wits and John Williams remains on form, we are in better hands with the Trust than any of the cash starved suitors who have been keeping Rothschilds in expensive London lunches.

[iamarover]

Newly promoted= Newly relegated

Get the picture? So long as the new Rovers management keeps its wits and John Williams remains on form, we are in better hands with the Trust than any of the cash starved suitors who have been keeping Rothschilds in expensive London lunches.

Top corner. Philip turns to the crowd and milks the applause he so richly deserves.

Only Wigan, Boro, and Chelsea can safely expect their current owners' donations to be waived. For everyone else, it's payback time, now or in the very near future. Why are there not daily prayers with all Rovers mats pointing towards Jersey? £40m since Jack went, and now £3m more. Salaries? Expenses? None charged. Check out the Liverpool debacle or the bloated cheques signed to Gill, Kenyon and even the despicable Ridsdale. Football administration is largely a gravy train paid by us. Chowdery, Williams, Ronnie... dont think for a moment their podgy hands wouldn't be in the dividend till.

It's Sugar Daddy or Trust for the Rovers. And there arent many SD's in the Aqueduct these days.

[leftfooter]

Newly promoted= Newly relegated

Get the picture? So long as the new Rovers management keeps its wits and John Williams remains on form, we are in better hands with the Trust than any of the cash starved suitors who have been keeping Rothschilds in expensive London lunches.

Top corner. Philip turns to the crowd and milks the applause he so richly deserves.

Only Wigan, Boro, and Chelsea can safely expect their current owners' donations to be waived. For everyone else, it's payback time, now or in the very near future. Why are there not daily prayers with all Rovers mats pointing towards Jersey? £40m since Jack went, and now £3m more. Salaries? Expenses? None charged. Check out the Liverpool debacle or the bloated cheques signed to Gill, Kenyon and even the despicable Ridsdale. Football administration is largely a gravy train paid by us. Chowdery, Williams, Ronnie... dont think for a moment their podgy hands wouldn't be in the dividend till.

It's Sugar Daddy or Trust for the Rovers. And there arent many SD's in the Aqueduct these days.

But STD's a plenty

[Brfcrule1]

Hello Everyone,

Nicko is there anything in tommorrow's people re: the possible takeover & is Brad asking to leave anything to do with this possible takeover of Nabeel Chowdery?

see everyone later

[nicko]

Hello Everyone,

Nicko is there anything in tommorrow's people re: the possible takeover & is Brad asking to leave anything to do with this possible takeover of Nabeel Chowdery?

see everyone later

Nothing in the paper - and nothing in Brad's imminent departure having anything to do with the Chowdery bid.

[tony gale's mic]

Hello Everyone,

see everyone later

[67splitscreen]

You know what they say about sarcasm.

[JAL]

Pompey- strengthened +++ve

Boro- I'm in a minority on this but my tip for a BIG +ve this season

Pompey strengthened, doubts about that philipl, just come back from Portsmouth and on the back page of the local news was the headline pompey must sell if they are to buy anymore dated friday 19th July 2008.

This came as they had just knocked back a £12m offer from Spurs for Krancjar plus Spurs were also tracking Diarra. Crouch has come in in place of Baros, yet they still have no decent right winger unless you can call Glen Little decent, Kaboul looks to be favouring Pompey as Sol Campbel shows all the signs that nature is catching up with him as he looks a yard too slow nowadays.

Pompey as a positive for next season philipl i have to question, especially if they end up selling someone they really dont want to.

Got to agree about Middlesbrough, plus Wigan will do better than they did last season their new signing looks an interesting one.