[Archived] Rovers Takeover Thread

[thenodrog]

The Blackburn Rovers bit above should have read L a n c a s h i r e U n i t e d but I couldn't see what I was writing through the red mist! Actually trying to post that name without the spaces in it automatically get rewritten as Blackburn Rovers - what's going on, have I got a virus or is there a macro on the board. Gord is this your doing?

I think it's SteB's little joke.

Lancashire_united becomes Blackburn Rovers but Lancashire Utd is Ok.

[Guest Vinjay606]

A re branding budget wouldn't give fans mentality transplants though. Fans are the PR for the club as far as I'm concerned. Some fans need to find a mentality more in accordance with that of most premier league supporters. As for branding "We Believe" was ok but this is a club that puts phrases like "small town in europe" in season ticket applications. What selling point does something like that have? What sort of example in a Jack Walker style "think big" mentality is that setting? It's not even s small town. As I have said constantly small towns are not eligible for city challenge.

You think it's good to sound out ideas that help the club? Lancashire Utd suggestions do not help Blackburn Rovers in any way whatsoever.

[Guest Vinjay606]

http://www.goal.com/en/news/9/england/2009...--richard-dunne

Richard Dunne believes Manchester City will prove critics wrong.

[Tim Southampton Rover]

Yeah, they need to get rid of him and then they'll be half way there!

[broadsword]

B ) to asset strip the club and turn a profit. Which is hardly ideal.

I don't think the club has sufficient assets to strip which would make acquiring it worthwhile, given that the asking price is about 40 mill and you'd be losing money from day 1.

Unless you start selling off under-performing/ chronically-injured players for medical experiments and pimp out the women's football team.

Given the current economic climate and the fact that it's gradually seeping in now that owning a football club is an almost sure-fire financial loser, and also that we're the least likely team to turn a profit and I can see why no-one's banging on the door to buy us.

By the way, look at the problems Man Utd have:

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/sport/2608...ve-demands.html

[John]

Unless you start selling off under-performing/ chronically-injured players for medical experiments

Good suggestion. Grella and Dunn could be very popular for this!

[thenodrog]

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/sport/2608...ve-demands.html

How anybody can argue against Platini is unreal. His solution might not be everyones cup of tea but the fact that the bigger income clubs have the bigger their debt is just ludicrous. Rich clubs? ........Real Madrid, Lpool, Man utd..... don't make me laugh.

[JAL]

Cant believe this takeover thread is rambling on about nothing.

Theres many a club in the premier league in a similar or worse position to Rovers but there are probably a few stronger clubs in the championship.

All in all is this a thread about how our current board is struggling, as they have reached a crossroads, talk about a lack of financial investment is this their 'get out of jail card ' because they are the ones who are performing so miserably, so miserably that their paymasters want to disown them and drop them from the trusts portfolio.

[Guest Vinjay606]

The clubs in similar situations should be making takeovers their number 1 issue as well.

It's irrelevant whether the board are performing miserably or not. They would have been replaced by now if the owners feel they are under performing (depends on how active the Walkers are in the day to day running) and whoever their replacements a sale would still be on the agenda.

Remember when Paul Ince was sacked it is believed by some they ordered Williams to sack him. So they would probably sack a member of the board for the same reason if they felt it was justified.

[47er]

Don't know if you're referring to my post/s, if so then I think you'll find that I'm not pushing for a sale, simply because there are no buyers out there at 60+ million, so you're right it's a pointless discussion to that extent. The point is though that more of the same will kill the club's ability to survive at this level of football. So what to do other than sit on our hands and moan. Only three options leap to mind :

1) do nowt - we die slowly

2) hope the trustees reduce the asking price - zero chance

3) the club gets a massive re-branding budget and generates a following large enough to put cash in the coffers.

Can't think of anything else can you? Which of the three options do you support or do you have a 4th? I've always thought its easiest to sit in the background and take potshots but actually coming up with something positive is the harder thing. The thread isn't pointless if it's read by people who care for the club and want to contribute whatever intellectual capital they might have to help out. It may be the wrong thread for you, so don't read it, go join the moaning majority and hope the cavalry come charging over the hill. For people like me who think it's good to sound out ideas that could help the club then it's a good thread. Blackburn Rovers is an idea that seems to be universally panned by the members on here but whether its good or bad at least someone is getting off their arse and trying to come up with some genuine ideas. I think the term for those people is SUPPORTERS.

Not having a go at you at all. The club is up for sale, no-one appears interested in buying, what more is there to say? Doesn't make me any less of a supporter because thats what I think.

[Guest Vinjay606]

Not every single expression of interest is inevitably leaked to the media. Though AN has a good track record of publicly disclosing any interest particularly in the case of Dan Williams. As of this morning there could be major interest in the club for all we know. The Manchester City takeover for instance appeared to come out of nowhere.

[philipl]

Not every single expression of interest is inevitably leaked to the media. Though AN has a good track record of publicly disclosing any interest particularly in the case of Dan Williams. As of this morning there could be major interest in the club for all we know. The Manchester City takeover for instance appeared to come out of nowhere.

...and I get accused of fantasising on here sometimes

[Guest Vinjay606]

Used that as an example dosen't mean I expect one on that scale. Though it would be the best case scenario. Surprised nobody found out about that well in advance.

In the Mirror shortly after the takeover it said sovereign wealth is perhaps the best guarantee in financing. So looks like Manchester City are in good hands.

[Parsonblue]

As of this morning there could be major interest in the club for all we know.

Then again Vinjay, the last wealthy individual on the board prior to Jack Walker was Lawrence Cotton. He left the board in 1919 and we had to wait until 1991 for Jack to arrive. For all we know we could have to wait for a similar amount of time for another wealthy owner. Also, looking at the fabulous wealth on offer at QPR a takeover is not always what you expect it to be and sometimes it can be worse than what you have already - Southampton being the perfect example.

[Guest Vinjay606]

Remember that Dave Whelan is believed to have registered an interest shortly before Jack's takeover. He delayed for business reasons apparently so probably the luckiest escape this club has ever had.

[Guest Vinjay606]

Ridsdale dismisses Cardiff takeover talk.

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/footballnatio...91466-23371783/

[Guest Vinjay606]

Wolverhampton Wanderers regret not spending enough in 03-04.

http://www.expressandstar.com/2009/04/13/m...s-cash-blunder/

[RovertheHill]

Not every single expression of interest is inevitably leaked to the media. Though AN has a good track record of publicly disclosing any interest particularly in the case of Dan Williams. As of this morning there could be major interest in the club for all we know. The Manchester City takeover for instance appeared to come out of nowhere.

The Man City takeover was nothing to do with football and everything to do with a corrupt old dictator in trouble getting bailed out by his mates. However, whilst you may be correct that there may be interested buyers out there I suspect that none of them will follow through until our premier league status is secured. I also suspect that there isn't anyone out there given the trouble the world's financial institutions are in

[Guest Vinjay606]

Well I certainly wouldn't expect any interest until summer at the earliest.

This is the article regarding Manchester City with "sovereign wealth" apparently being the best guarantee in terms of financing. Can any "experts" here back up that claim?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/200...15875-20721109/

[PAFELL]

Not every single expression of interest is inevitably leaked to the media. Though AN has a good track record of publicly disclosing any interest particularly in the case of Dan Williams. As of this morning there could be major interest in the club for all we know. The Manchester City takeover for instance appeared to come out of nowhere.

Er the ones not leaked to the media are not worth the club pursueing- obviously not good enough in otherwords

[Guest Vinjay606]

Well I can't recall the Man City one being leaked to the media. Or the Portsmouth one. Both those could be classed as worth pursuing even though Portsmouth have since fallen into a difficult situation.

[stuwilky]

I just wasted some of my life reading this thread.

if this, if that, it the other.

If my aunty had ###### she'd be my uncle as well.

[American]

I just wasted some of my life reading this thread.

if this, if that, it the other.

If my aunty had ###### she'd be my uncle as well.

I think if your aunty was a hermaphrodite, she'd be your uncle as well.....

[Guest Vinjay606]

There's nothing wasteful about discussing the key long term issue for this football club. A successful takeover will make you realise it is fully justified to proclaim it the no 1 issue. Potential buyers could be reading this board so I don't want them to think BRFC fans regard the subject to be of second rate importance.

The last takeover hardly led to disaster did it?

[jim mk2]

Remember that Dave Whelan is believed to have registered an interest shortly before Jack's takeover. He delayed for business reasons apparently so probably the luckiest escape this club has ever had.

Why ? Dave Whelan has proved to be an excellent owner of Wigan Athletic.