[Archived] Rovers Takeover Thread

[Guest Vinjay606]

I'm sure that long term this issue is the most important internal club matter. So there's a lot of people other than me who clearly consider it the top agenda.

EIT has always had his priorities right.

[Ste B]

It's only going to be top of the agenda in your head - like it always has been. The rest of the world can see it's not going to happen in the short term (or probably the medium or the long term). If I were you I'd see a shrink and ask if you can get that part of your brain thoroughly re-formatted.

As there has been nothing to report for so long, after leaving it on the agenda for over a year, the FF decided it would be better to remove it until there was some good reason to put it back there (ie a change in the status quo).

The band of that name once did a song called "Enough is Enough".

They did an FA Cup final song for Man U as well, I bet Vinjay isnt happy about it, or perhaps he aint complaining for once.

[PAFELL]

I'm sure that long term this issue is the most important internal club matter. So there's a lot of people other than me who clearly consider it the top agenda.

EIT has always had his priorities right.

When will you give it a rest about a takeover - it is not happening. I along with everybody else who is a rovers supporter want rovers to be successful on and off the pitch. This of course requires investment. But talking about it will not make it happen any quicker than is happening now. We like the club have to accept the situation as things stand today - yes if there was anything that could be done to encourage the present owners to do more, so be it. Sadly that is not the case - no matter how long or hard you bang the drum about a takeover - we have to make do with what we have now. Time is on Rovers side right now - the loans of the big clubs will be called in very soon - leaving Rovers on an even keel. Until then we all have to bide our time. Support the club as it is and live in hope season in season out. The thing at the top agenda now for Rovers is staying in the prem - basically the next match.

[Guest Vinjay606]

I'll talk about it as much as I like. It's a takeover thread so if you don't like it don't read it. It's not like I've been going off topic...well I did mention the owners in the Stoke thread but only in response to others mentioning them.

I'm not trying to encourage the current owners to do more. Not really much point trying to force a change in policy from them.

I've been biding my time for 6 years. At least I've got patience.

Of course survival is the top priority in the short term. If/When that is achieved takeovers becomes the biggest priority in the summer. The owners will be looking at it in the same way.

[broadsword]

QUOTE (Ste B @ Apr 21 2009, 22:28 ) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

They did an FA Cup final song for Man U as well, I bet Vinjay isnt happy about it, or perhaps he aint complaining for once.

Is that what you're proposing?

[47er]

I'll talk about it as much as I like. It's a takeover thread so if you don't like it don't read it. It's not like I've been going off topic...well I did mention the owners in the Stoke thread but only in response to others mentioning them.

I'm not trying to encourage the current owners to do more. Not really much point trying to force a change in policy from them.

I've been biding my time for 6 years. At least I've got patience.

Of course survival is the top priority in the short term. If/When that is achieved takeovers becomes the biggest priority in the summer. The owners will be looking at it in the same way.

You mean you've been obsessing for 6 years.

[yoda]

I'm sure that long term this issue is the most important internal club matter. So there's a lot of people other than me who clearly consider it the top agenda.

EIT has always had his priorities right.

The most important internal club matter is creating a credible football team, long and short term.

Selling the club is a trust matter, try to keep the 2 entitites seperate vinjay, life might become easier for you.

[bob fleming]

I'll talk about it as much as I like.

About Forty-Five Hundred Times?

[Guest Vinjay606]

The most important internal club matter is creating a credible football team, long and short term.

Selling the club is a trust matter, try to keep the 2 entitites seperate vinjay, life might become easier for you.

In the long term how credible the team is will be highly dependant on a takeover and owner funding.

It is important to everyone at the club considering a new owner might want to make a few staff changes.

[yoda]

In the long term how credible the team is will be highly dependant on a takeover and owner funding.

It is important to everyone at the club considering a new owner might want to make a few staff changes.

Its not going to happen, give it up,

Do you really think the current staff should go into work thinking that this might be the day we get bought and worry about their positions?

just how nieve are you?

[Guest Vinjay606]

Its not going to happen, give it up,

Do you really think the current staff should go into work thinking that this might be the day we get bought and worry about their positions?

just how nieve are you?

Why bother putting the club up for sale then? Obviously the people trying to sell the club think there's a chance.

[gumboots]

Its not going to happen, give it up,

Do you really think the current staff should go into work thinking that this might be the day we get bought and worry about their positions?

just how nieve are you?

Besides which you'd have to hope that any new owner would be very careful about which staff changes they wanted to make. We've all seen what happened to Newcastle when ashley thought he'd have a complete change of the way things were done. You really have to be careful what you wish for you know. QPR fans thought the money flooding into their club would be wonderful. No doubt Hearts fans were quite cheered by Romanov's money. City might get it right eventually but the flood of money they should have seen hasn't so far proved to be able to get them many out of the ordinary players. West Ham's Icelandic takeover isn't doing them much good in the longer term. We could go on. For every Randy Lerner there's a Gillette and Hicks or a Glazer family, looking for a quick buck and get out before something goes wrong. We need investment but not just for the sake of it. we need someone or a group of someones who is prepred to put in cash with very little hope of getting anything back in the foreseeable future and that person almost certainly doesn't exist outside of our dreams.

[broadsword]

Why bother putting the club up for sale then? Obviously the people trying to sell the club think there's a chance.

Why do people buy lottery tickets?

[Guest Vinjay606]

Manchester City need a top manager with a history of winning major honours to attract top players to their club. It would be almost impossible for them not to get it right with their level of funding. Even for a club like that which makes screwing up an art form.

Ashley should never have hired loser Keegan in the first place.

QPR fans should be grateful those people saved their club. They are higher in the table why care so much about a few managers getting fired? They should be in the premier league soon.

West Ham of course have a few problems. So do Portsmouth but at least their owners don't want to sell to just anyone. They refused to sell to a Ramon Vega fronted consortium because they didn't think it was right for the club.

[gumboots]

So do Portsmouth but at least their owners don't want to sell to just anyone. They refused to sell to a Ramon Vega fronted consortium because they didn't think it was right for the club.

And that's what seems to be the case with our owners. So why is it right for Portsmouth and wrong for us? There are not queues of people with barrowloads of money out there at the moment just waiting to buy a football club, especially not a small town one that has little or no marketing value. If there are investors they want to invest in some glamour or at least a name they can make glamorous. Most people, even the mega rich, are keeping their money close to home. OUr club is for sale and might attract a suitable buyer, but at the moment it's like putting your house on the market was a year or so ago. You want to sell but it's no good being too eager because the buyers just haven't got the cash and can't borrow it so you leave it on the market because its being there is not a problem and you wait till the buyer comes along.

[Guest Vinjay606]

It's not a small town. Blackburn has participated in City Challenge before something I assume only big towns are eligible for.

[Bazzanotsogreat]

What do all these teams have in common:

Siena

Udinese

Lecce

Atalanta

Cagliari

Getafe

Numancia

Almera

Villareal

Huelva

[Billy Castell]

They're all abroad!

And they are 'small town' clubs in the top division?

[gumboots]

It's not a small town. Blackburn has participated in City Challenge before something I assume only big towns are eligible for.

You are wrong. It's a small town with unusual demographics. It's not a small town in the way that Clitheroe is a small town but it's certainly not big, not in the way that most of the premier league bases are. The majority are cities or areas of cities with large cachement areas of high density housing. We simply aren't. i love this area in a strange way. It's run down and tatty but it's somehow got to me but it's still not an attractive area to people looking to invest and the majority of people i speak to on my travels in Europe have never heard of it. Get real. No sugar daddy is going to walk in and give our club money just like that. Doesn't matter what our history is, how proud we are of what has been achieved in the past and will go on being achieved if we can stay a premier league club, it isn't going to happen. If you want to invest you want a bit of sparkle for your cash. you want either a club you can take from nowhere to the top or you want a club that with just a bit of tweaking can give you prestige and the possibility of really competing on a big stage. We offer none of those. We offer a good solid and well run club that should, with decent investment be able to stay in the premier league and possibly qualify for Europe in a good year or get to the later stages of a domestic trophy or possibly even win one. There are only so many trophies to go round, not enough for one per club per season so your chances of winning one depend on a lot of luck as well as decent players as Portsmouth proved last season. So at some point someone may decide they want us. We are not unattractive, just not as attractive as a lot of other clubs are for different reasons. You can try as hard as you want to dress it up differently but that is fact and a takeover will not happen until the current financial situation sorts itself out and people begin to look around for some fun investments again, and possibly not even then.

[Sparky Marky]

good post....vinjay...just knock it on't head lad.!

[chocky]

You are wrong. It's a small town with unusual demographics. It's not a small town in the way that Clitheroe is a small town but it's certainly not big, not in the way that most of the premier league bases are. The majority are cities or areas of cities with large cachement areas of high density housing. We simply aren't. i love this area in a strange way. It's run down and tatty but it's somehow got to me but it's still not an attractive area to people looking to invest and the majority of people i speak to on my travels in Europe have never heard of it. Get real. No sugar daddy is going to walk in and give our club money just like that. Doesn't matter what our history is, how proud we are of what has been achieved in the past and will go on being achieved if we can stay a premier league club, it isn't going to happen. If you want to invest you want a bit of sparkle for your cash. you want either a club you can take from nowhere to the top or you want a club that with just a bit of tweaking can give you prestige and the possibility of really competing on a big stage. We offer none of those. We offer a good solid and well run club that should, with decent investment be able to stay in the premier league and possibly qualify for Europe in a good year or get to the later stages of a domestic trophy or possibly even win one. There are only so many trophies to go round, not enough for one per club per season so your chances of winning one depend on a lot of luck as well as decent players as Portsmouth proved last season. So at some point someone may decide they want us. We are not unattractive, just not as attractive as a lot of other clubs are for different reasons. You can try as hard as you want to dress it up differently but that is fact and a takeover will not happen until the current financial situation sorts itself out and people begin to look around for some fun investments again, and possibly not even then.

Top post Gumboots...Blackburn is a little tatty and rough around the edges and in many ways is just like Jersey...a scruffy town but with stunning couintryside (But we have the beach within 2 miles of anywhere)..a population of around 100,000 but there are large ethnic groups here too..Potuguese, Germans, Italians & Polish and just recently Africans...I have an affection for Blackburn and come up as often as I can afford...the grass is not always greener on the other side either..It's not that bad a place..But Gumboots is right if we think a billionaire owner comes in for us in the near future..a small town in a big league..long may it continue...we have earned our place in the premiership..

[Guest Vinjay606]

Small minded nonsense that is the exact opposite of the mentality Jack Walker stood for. The last time I checked it was Blackburn Rovers Football CLUB that is for sale not the surrounding area. Any new owner without a local mentality will look at the rest of Lancashire as a natural catchment area. Certainly if the other clubs who are supposedly rivals (the last time I checked most football club shirts in Blackburn that aren't blue and white are red) for support remain in lower leagues. I look at this club as a big club in a big town. Catchment area is not a testament to club size. Look at Gillingham who have virtually the whole of Kent as a potential catchment area yet had mediocre attendances in the championship. Does that make them a bigger club than Blackburn Rovers? Of course not.

Only big towns are eligible to make applications for city status. It makes no sense for a small town to immediately jump up to city status. People enjoy dragging the club and town down that's the only reason you say that.

[chocky]

Vinjay the thing is being able to attract that catchment area...manchester United have the size and theat certain thing that makes it attractive to a global audience...the vast majority of Manchester United's fan base will never attend a live match...that is a fact...

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

Vinjay you are like a dog chasing its tail....round and round and round!

I'll give you credit though you know how to get attention.

[yoda]

Small minded nonsense that is the exact opposite of the mentality Jack Walker stood for. The last time I checked it was Blackburn Rovers Football CLUB that is for sale not the surrounding area. Any new owner without a local mentality will look at the rest of Lancashire as a natural catchment area. Certainly if the other clubs who are supposedly rivals (the last time I checked most football club shirts in Blackburn that aren't blue and white are red) for support remain in lower leagues. I look at this club as a big club in a big town. Catchment area is not a testament to club size. Look at Gillingham who have virtually the whole of Kent as a potential catchment area yet had mediocre attendances in the championship. Does that make them a bigger club than Blackburn Rovers? Of course not.

Only big towns are eligible to make applications for city status. It makes no sense for a small town to immediately jump up to city status. People enjoy dragging the club and town down that's the only reason you say that.

If everything is so hunky dory like you seem to think it is

why has the club not been sold yet?