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To be fair we had an amazing start to last season which lasted until the start of November. From then until about Febuary we were awful! Every side has ups and downs in form. You could take the middle third of last season and say we were terrible....

I always said we can only first judge Ince after eight and personally I feel Ince has jumped the first hurdle in guiding the team decently so far (hence why we are in mid table). So no need to panic. In the longer term (the next 20 games or so) he needs to build on that, and if he negotiates that competantly he should get the rest of the season to find his feet and create a team, and he needs the fans backing for that. A divided support only hurts things as has been seen at Newcastle, Spurs etc.

I am not sure I can think of any manager who has just taken on a team in the Prem with relatively small resources (Pardew/Dowie/Small Sam) doing much better than Ince right now. Even Bruce who is doing a fantastic job at Wigan needed six months to get the ball rolling. And a number of managers who have recently taken clubs with vast resources (or at least more money at Fulham) are actually doing worse than Ince (Hughes, Ramos, Hodgson).

Give him a bit of a break!

Yes i agree.

I just wonder - what would have been an acceptable points return if our new manager had been....

Laudrup?

ten Cate?

BFS?

Eddie World Cup

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To be fair we had an amazing start to last season which lasted until the start of November. From then until about Febuary we were awful! Every side has ups and downs in form. You could take the middle third of last season and say we were terrible....

I always said we can only first judge Ince after eight and personally I feel Ince has jumped the first hurdle in guiding the team decently so far (hence why we are in mid table). So no need to panic. In the longer term (the next 20 games or so) he needs to build on that, and if he negotiates that competantly he should get the rest of the season to find his feet and create a team, and he needs the fans backing for that. A divided support only hurts things as has been seen at Newcastle, Spurs etc.

I am not sure I can think of any manager who has just taken on a team in the Prem with relatively small resources (Pardew/Dowie/Small Sam) doing much better than Ince right now. Even Bruce who is doing a fantastic job at Wigan needed six months to get the ball rolling. And a number of managers who have recently taken clubs with vast resources (or at least more money at Fulham) are actually doing worse than Ince (Hughes, Ramos, Hodgson).

Give him a bit of a break!

A very fair assessment.

gumboots World Cup

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i just don't believe anything i see in the tabloids anymore. Bad or good!

Well, you can believe they might try it. Believing we might consider it is a different matter.

Al World Cup

Al

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Well, you can believe they might try it. Believing we might consider it is a different matter.

We signed Fowler! Who's to say Ince might not have a 'feeling' about Harewood. :o

Al World Cup

Al

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Like O'Neill did you mean?

Beat him with that stick, not Ince

O'Neill didn't sign Fowler!

krislu Uefa Europa League

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You can all scream "rubbish", "no way", "ridiculous"...but if villa comes in with a decent offer around £15m + player then Roque is as good as gone.

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Blackburn manager Paul Ince has said Aston Villa cannot afford striker Roque Santa Cruz and that the 27-year-old striker will not be going anywhere in January. (Daily Star)

He basically said that he's not for sale, Villa couldnt afford him, he isnt interested in City and that wont change unless Roque changes his mind.

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Blackburn manager Paul Ince has said Aston Villa cannot afford striker Roque Santa Cruz and that the 27-year-old striker will not be going anywhere in January. (Daily Star)

He basically said that he's not for sale, Villa couldnt afford him, he isnt interested in City and that wont change unless Roque changes his mind.

I think we know they can afford virtually anyone but that Lernar prefers to keep his hand on his ha'penny.

Hughesy World Cup

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With Ince saying that - I dont believe for one minute that there is only an £18m clause on his head. Surely if there is one, it must be much, much more.

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Wierd statement by Ince - it is complete ###### saying Lerner cannot afford to buy RSC unless he is thinking of putting a £2bn price tag on him.

At £6bn he would price out Chelsea as well and at £60bn, Man City would blink.

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At least Ince is not saying "Oh well, every player has his price" and other such stuff. If Roque does go, we must fight and get the best price, and not just give up because club X is 'bigger'. We are not in this business to do favours for other clubs.

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Can you really blame Ince for calling their bluff? Every player has their price, and if Villa bid over £18m we all know JW & the board will seriously consider it.

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