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I wonder if this plethora of niggling injuries is anything to do with the approaching transfer window in some cases? <_<

Why, because they love the Rovers so much and they know they can't be sold whilst injured :P

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I wonder if this plethora of niggling injuries is anything to do with the approaching transfer window in some cases? <_<

Or is it the fact that they don't want to be associated with a struggling team. It is beginning to remind me more and more of the 1999 season when our superstars were 'injured' for most of the season.

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The gathering injury list does concern me. This is key to clubs like ours to succeed & why Mark Hughes was able to achieve the results on limited resources. In my opinion we should be spending money on the medical & fitness staff rather than trying to get the next superstar

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We did? Soccerbase says 32.

Yeah I think if anything he was closer to 19 goals. 19 games seems very low, just going off memory.

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We did? Soccerbase says 32.

Nineteen starts anyhow as I recall, not sure about substitute appearances.

Thirteen League goals in nineteen games was my recollection as to his stats.

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Nineteen starts anyhow as I recall, not sure about substitute appearances.

Thirteen League goals in nineteen games was my recollection as to his stats.

Stats

League: 22 starts (+ 5 subs) 13 goals

Fa Cup: 1 start 2 goals

League Cup: 3 starts (+ 1 sub) 2 goals

Reported the same on his West Ham player profile.

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Or is it the fact that they don't want to be associated with a struggling team. It is beginning to remind me more and more of the 1999 season when our superstars were 'injured' for most of the season.

If they played, we probably wouldn't be struggling so it's a chicken and egg situation. I think we'r just being unlucky and all the injuries we probably should have had are coming together like buses

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If they played, we probably wouldn't be struggling so it's a chicken and egg situation. I think we'r just being unlucky and all the injuries we probably should have had are coming together like buses

but isn't that what being said now. 'If Ince had a settled side' etc. There is an uncanny resemblence.

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We are getting more injuries because we are short of numbers and players have been rushing themselves back. They need to start taking the right amount of rest if Injured.

Once the Chelsea game is out of the way, we have abit of time to get a run going pre-january sales. We will be fine, trust me.

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We are getting more injuries because we are short of numbers and players have been rushing themselves back. They need to start taking the right amount of rest if Injured.

Once the Chelsea game is out of the way, we have abit of time to get a run going pre-january sales. We will be fine, trust me.

Now why do I hesitate and immediately become suspicious when people say 'trust me'? :huh:

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We are getting more injuries because we are short of numbers and players have been rushing themselves back. They need to start taking the right amount of rest if Injured.

But we're not really that short on numbers.

Defenders: Simpson, Ooijer, Nelsen, Samba, Zurab, Olsson, Warnock

Midfielders: Emerton, Reid, Dunn, Vogel, Mokoena, Tugay, Grella, Andrews, Pedersen, Treacy

Strikers: Derbyshire, Santa Cruz, McCarthy, Roberts, Fowler

That's a pretty hefty squad to be honest, and doesn't even allow for the overlap of players in to different positions (e.g. Warnock, Emerton, Derbyshire). The only person who seems to be rushing himself back is Grella, and possibly Santa Cruz although he seems to have had his problem for a while.

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We are getting more injuries because we are short of numbers and players have been rushing themselves back. They need to start taking the right amount of rest if Injured.

Once the Chelsea game is out of the way, we have abit of time to get a run going pre-january sales. We will be fine, trust me.

Again memories of 1999, Flitcroft and McKinley being rushed back to cover the sale of Sherwood only to break down and lose them for even longer.

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But we're not really that short on numbers.

Defenders: Simpson, Ooijer, Nelsen, Samba, Zurab, Olsson, Warnock

Midfielders: Emerton, Reid, Dunn, Vogel, Mokoena, Tugay, Grella, Andrews, Pedersen, Treacy

Strikers: Derbyshire, Santa Cruz, McCarthy, Roberts, Fowler

That's a pretty hefty squad to be honest, and doesn't even allow for the overlap of players in to different positions (e.g. Warnock, Emerton, Derbyshire). The only person who seems to be rushing himself back is Grella, and possibly Santa Cruz although he seems to have had his problem for a while.

Another arguement is the lack of quality we have, particular in midfield.

Keepers - Good

Defence - Quite Good

Midfield - Reid & Dunn injured, Grella picking up knocks every game, Pedersen & Treacy out of form, Mokoena & Vogel unwanted. That really leaves Emerton (now also injured), Tugay & Andrews. And also Villanueva who is still learning.

Strikers - RSC Injured, Fowler unwanted (by the fans), Derbsyhire not ready to play week in-week out as a main striker.

We really need Benni & Roberts to hit form together and could also do with MGP hitting at least 80%.

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Another arguement is the lack of quality we have, particular in midfield.

Keepers - Good

Defence - Quite Good

Midfield - Reid & Dunn injured, Grella picking up knocks every game, Pedersen & Treacy out of form, Mokoena & Vogel unwanted. That really leaves Emerton (now also injured), Tugay & Andrews. And also Villanueva who is still learning.

Strikers - RSC Injured, Fowler unwanted (by the fans), Derbsyhire not ready to play week in-week out as a main striker.

We really need Benni & Roberts to hit form together and could also do with MGP hitting at least 80%.

Both Mokoena and Vogel could do a job in centre midfield, which is what is needed at the moment. They don't have to be Ince's buddies,and he doesn't have to think they are world beaters; if necessary he could move them on when some of the injured players come back.

Many people think management is about getting the best out of your current hand.

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The Guardian is at it again today- in a long article about City and Hughes they say -" Jo meanwhile is likely to be marginalised if the club manage to bring in Roque Santa Cruz. City will offer Blackburn Rovers in excess of £15 million or use Vassell and Onuoha in a possible part exchange. Blackburn do not want to sell but the money will be hard to turn down and Santa Cruz wants it to happen".

Will £15 million cover the cost of a season or two in the championship ?

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It wont happen for £15m.

Il ask the geezer himself on thursday and see how he reacts, hopefully he will be genuine, he seemed that way in summer and then signed a new contract. Hopefully the smart move of bringing his brother here will help us.

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It wont happen for £15m.

Il ask the geezer himself on thursday and see how he reacts, hopefully he will be genuine, he seemed that way in summer and then signed a new contract. Hopefully the smart move of bringing his brother here will help us.

Don't you think Rocky would have a bit more to his bow - than wanting to play wherever his younger brother is?

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