[Archived] Roque Santa Cruz Thread

[waggy]

surely we do not want to keep rsc,he has gone on record saying he wants a move,lets tell citeh the price and then haggle our way to the best price.he has not tried in the last 4 games he has played for us,so why should we want to keep him,he reminds me soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much off benni,one good season then mediocre crap,sooner gone the better,as for beattie your having a giraffe

[my_name_is_Earl]

surely we do not want to keep rsc,he has gone on record saying he wants a move,lets tell citeh the price and then haggle our way to the best price.he has not tried in the last 4 games he has played for us,so why should we want to keep him,he reminds me soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much off benni,one good season then mediocre crap,sooner gone the better,as for beattie your having a giraffe

At least Benni has come back with a bang since Sam came in. I actually rate Benni as a better player than Roque although obviously Roque is younger and had a better season last year so is worth more.

[waggy]

At least Benni has come back with a bang since Sam came in. I actually rate Benni as a better player than Roque although obviously Roque is younger and had a better season last year so is worth more.

benni has played 3 games under bfs and looks good,but how many false dawns has the man had,he and roberts are not good enough,thats why we should get rid off rsc and get a good replacement

[thenodrog]

surely we do not want to keep rsc,he has gone on record saying he wants a move,lets tell citeh the price and then haggle our way to the best price.he has not tried in the last 4 games he has played for us,so why should we want to keep him,he reminds me soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much off benni,one good season then mediocre crap,sooner gone the better,as for beattie your having a giraffe

Why do you want us to be perrenial pushovers? Think about the Gareth Barry and David Bentley contrasting situations. Both said they wanted to leave but with very different results.

[RoyRover]

That's the best idea. Our survival is more important than Santa Cruz getting his 'dream' move to City. As Sam said, why we should we sell our best player to a relegation rival? Imagine if he were to go there and score goals that took them clear of relegation, when he could be doing the same for us. If City want him that badly, they can wait until the summer for him.

[daveoftherovers]

Why do you want us to be perrenial pushovers? Think about the Gareth Barry and David Bentley contrasting situations. Both said they wanted to leave but with very different results.

Villa was THE exception though, can't remember many more can you, player power and all that, Villa have a very ballsey manager and chairman and can afford to make someone rot, most can't.

I take Sturridge in part ex.

[philipl]

Much as I would love to see it happen, Sturidge coming to Rovers is not a possibility.

[DeadlyDirk]

Villa was THE exception though, can't remember many more can you, player power and all that, Villa have a very ballsey manager and chairman and can afford to make someone rot, most can't.

I take Sturridge in part ex.

Long time before the transfer window closes but Downing so far at Boro is a similiar situation to Barry.

[AndyC]

Much as I would love to see it happen, Sturidge coming to Rovers is not a possibility.

why is not a possibility?

you can state its not probable, but you cant say its not possible with any certainty!

Villa was THE exception though, can't remember many more can you, player power and all that, Villa have a very ballsey manager and chairman and can afford to make someone rot, most can't.

I take Sturridge in part ex.

what about downing? he's angled for a move for over a season too, but borough have held firm

[Mr Creosote]

Much as I would love to see it happen, Sturidge coming to Rovers is not a possibility.

If they want RSC so much they might not have a choice.

[philipl]

The latest is City are looking to highjack Arsenal's move for Arshavin. Mirror story.

[thenodrog]

I take Sturridge in part ex.

How come nobody ever mentioned Sturridge before Christmas?

[T4E]

How come nobody ever mentioned Sturridge before Christmas?

He was being mentioned long before that. Nicko mentioned him being linked to Chelsea in the summer.

[thenodrog]

He was being mentioned long before that. Nicko mentioned him being linked to Chelsea in the summer.

Surely if Chelsea had wanted him in the summer they'd have got him?

[T4E]

I'd have to leave that for the source himself to explain, but I'm guessing Chelsea were looking to nick him for not much money and City didn't play ball.

[thenodrog]

but I'm guessing Chelsea were looking to nick him for not much money and City didn't play ball.

Hmmm...... Harking back to last summer neither of those two reasons really rings true. Despite silly claims from Goode, Hughes and Shinawatra City were basically potless and Chelsea have not really 'nicked' anybody that they really want on the cheap since the Russian turned up.

[philipl]

Sturridge, Ireland et al were being flogged behind Sparky's back by City until Sparky got wind of it and de-railed the whole process. The only one who had been advanced to the point at which the sale eventually had to go through was Corluka to Spurs.

At the moment, Sturridge is without doubt one of the most exciting PL-developed young players around.

[Amo]

If Man.City want to play ball, a cash + Sturridge deal would be a great coup. He's got massive potential and we're bound to make a good profit on him down the line.

[shadsworth cloud]

If Man.City want to play ball, a cash + Sturridge deal would be a great coup. He's got massive potential and we're bound to make a good profit on him down the line.

well, sturridge has been banging in goals in reserve/youth teams for a few years. But he is VERY one footed. To me that would seem to limit his potential somewhat.

another young super-genius (so they say) at man city is michael johnson who has been injured mostly this season and is now being offered (according to the papers.....) as a makeweight in a deal to sign scott parker - god help them

just be wary of youngsters with massive potential - a lot of them end up nowhere

[John]

Hughes hinted that he is prepared to hear of other demands from his former employers. "There are factors and sometimes you have to think laterally to get these things done," he said. "There may be something they may bring up that we haven't thought of or we may bring something up. That could be what it takes.

[thenodrog]

just be wary of youngsters with massive potential - a lot of them end up nowhere

Exactly. One costs 15m and the other becomes a free transfer.

In a nutshell resurrecting them that has been Mark Hughes's forte and imo is our best way forward. Sell-on clauses would become a fact of life but so what?

[philipl]

West Ham have rejected a new City bid for Bellamy so I guess it's our turn to get a new bid for RSC...

[RibbleValleyRover]

Rovers braced for new Roque Santa Cruz bid

[Bobby G]

If what nicko says is right, then we are looking at 15 million net to us, and in my eyes considering some of the bids going around and some of the prices being mentioned by selling clubs, then Id say thats at least 3 million pounds too short in an ideal world.

[modes98]

Depends which Santa Cruz your talking about.

If it's last season's then it's a fair way short of what we should be asking for, but if it's the Rocky in his years at munich and his start this season then I think we are getting a decent deal.