[Archived] Roque Santa Cruz Thread

[Amo]

Is it true we got offered £18m AND Daniel Sturridge for Roque??

[philipl]

Is it true we got offered £18m AND Daniel Sturridge for Roque??

No- Sturridge was never on offer. Tris?

[rover6]

So why keep him if he's going to be on the bench for games like today?

Benni and Roberts are in good form, individually and as a partnership. Santa Cruz will still be of great use in the remaining games (providing we play orthodox wingers and get crosses in).

[Amo]

No- Sturridge was never on offer. Tris?

That's what the Sunday People has reported, but not monsieur Nicko btw.

[nicko]

That's what the Sunday People has reported, but not monsieur Nicko btw.

Man City offering Sturridge would have been a major change of heart by that club...

However his contract talks are not going so well. Maybe they had second thoughts about his long-term future.

I don't see any way that deal could have been done in the final hour.

Odd.

[thenodrog]

Man City offering Sturridge would have been a major change of heart by that club...

However his contract talks are not going so well. Maybe they had second thoughts about his long-term future.

I don't see any way that deal could have been done in the final hour.

Odd.

And by that player.

btw I've been informed that City's final offer for RSC matched our valuation but they wanted 3 years to pay and were told where to get off.

[RevidgeBlue]

btw I've been informed that City's final offer for RSC matched our valuation but they wanted 3 years to pay and were told where to get off.

That's no different to the way most transfers are done, can't see why that would have been a stumbling block per se.

I was having an argument with a bloke in front of me at the game yesterday - he was saying why turn down 20m for RSC then not play him. I was pointing out that Benni has played better with Roberts than RSC in the past and you can't bring 20m pounds in fivers onto the pitch to rescue the game. Or even three annual installments of 7m.

In fact the recent home games against Bolton and Sunderland both turned as a result of being able to bring another top quality striker on.

[den]

I was having an argument with a bloke in front of me at the game yesterday - he was saying why turn down 20m for RSC then not play him.

That's been said on here and is a ridiculous viewpoint.

[broadsword]

That's no different to the way most transfers are done, can't see why that would have been a stumbling block per se.

Gotta have some bubbly for the share-holders ...

[kandi]

That's been said on here and is a ridiculous viewpoint.

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I disagree.

[Amo]

That's been said on here and is a ridiculous viewpoint.

I disagree.

Good for you. It usually helps if you explain why.

Like myself and others have said, Benni & Roberts earned their starting places. Roque can't be expected to just walk into the team.

[tony gale's mic]

That's been said on here and is a ridiculous viewpoint.

No it's not. We are going to take a significant hit financially from not selling Roque in January. Hughes will be gone in summer and unless Roque dramatically improves the maximum we could possibly get for him is £10m. If that, he's only scored 3 this season.

If he scores goals and helps keep us up that financial hit would have been fully vindicated.

If he continues or only slightly improves on 3 goals in 18 games then that financial hit would have been totally unjusitifed, especially considering there were potential options who could be backed to score more than 3 goals in a half season for around £6-7m.

Now I can understand Sam leaving Roque out if he's not producing the goods, but it starts to make the decision to keep him just a little silly.

[sanlorenzo]

No it's not. We are going to take a significant hit financially from not selling Roque in January. Hughes will be gone in summer and unless Roque dramatically improves the maximum we could possibly get for him is £10m. If that, he's only scored 3 this season.

If he scores goals and helps keep us up that financial hit would have been fully vindicated.

If he continues or only slightly improves on 3 goals in 18 games then that financial hit would have been totally unjusitifed, especially considering there were potential options who could be backed to score more than 3 goals in a half season for around £6-7m.

Now I can understand Sam leaving Roque out if he's not producing the goods, but it starts to make the decision to keep him just a little silly.

You are absolutely right. Roque needs to be playing and needs to feel Fat Sam has confidence in his ability. He can only have an impact if he plays and should be starting. Sam has to be creative in the way sets his lineup. We can beat the Mancs if Sam plays the best 11 and that means you start RSC.

[kandi]

You are absolutely right. Roque needs to be playing and needs to feel Fat Sam has confidence in his ability. He can only have an impact if he plays and should be starting. Sam has to be creative in the way sets his lineup. We can beat the Mancs if Sam plays the best 11 and that means you start RSC.

[thenodrog]

No it's not. We are going to take a significant hit financially from not selling Roque in January. Hughes will be gone in summer and unless Roque dramatically improves the maximum we could possibly get for him is £10m. If that, he's only scored 3 this season.

If he scores goals and helps keep us up that financial hit would have been fully vindicated.

If he continues or only slightly improves on 3 goals in 18 games then that financial hit would have been totally unjusitifed, especially considering there were potential options who could be backed to score more than 3 goals in a half season for around £6-7m.

Now I can understand Sam leaving Roque out if he's not producing the goods, but it starts to make the decision to keep him just a little silly.

errr Arry bid 20m too.

anyway

Stick whatever valuation on him that you want in your own mind but the fact remains that his is our best and strongest option for centre forward. He is the only one that can play the target man and hold the ball up with ease. Of the other two one gets regularly out-muscled whilst the ball usually bounces further off the other than I can kick it.

[DeadlyDirk]

There still seems to be a lot of fans who in this thread and others think we should have taken the £20 million for Roque, the truth is nobody ever offered £20m and that was our valuation, it would have been a great message to send out wouldn't it saying we want £20 million for him, oh okay then have him for £15m.

Saying we should have accepted £20 million for Roque is as relevant as saying we should have sold Andrews for £30 million when we had the chance.

[CrazyIvan]

For all of those who have said we should have sold Roque because he wants to leave should listen to his interview on the BBC here

[sanlorenzo]

For all of those who have said we should have sold Roque because he wants to leave should listen to his interview on the BBC here

If Sam places his confidence in RSC he will repay it with goals.

[budha]

Santa to quit Rovers in summer

Roque re-iterating desire to move.. again. Quotes from Latin America Fox Sports.

[Amo]

Nothing we don't already know, tbh.

[Stuart]

Roque 'done' with Rovers

I wish he'd just shut his gob. He seems determined to leave as a villain.

"I came here for continuity, to get up to pace again and I did pretty quickly. My intention was always to get in shape and then move to a big club."

Another mis-quote?

Seems us little club types should just be grateful that we rescued his career. How quickly they forget.

[kandi]

Old quotes from Paraguay.

[nicko]

Old quotes from Paraguay.

Brand new quotes...so much for the 'I'm happy' balls of last week.

He is not coming out of this whole episode very well.

Big Sam knew nothing about the quotes - which are on a video if anyone wants to check - and was not best pleased.

[gumboots]

Brand new quotes...so much for the 'I'm happy' balls of last week.

He is not coming out of this whole episode very well.

Big Sam knew nothing about the quotes - which are on a video if anyone wants to check - and was not best pleased.

Thing is it's old news that he doesn't need to keep saying over and over again. We all know there's no real loyalty except from fans but surely we deserve that he just keeps his mouth shut and does his talking with his feet on the pitch then he'll get his move , we'll get our cash with time to spend it and all will be relatively happy.

[Mc Love]

Brand new quotes...so much for the 'I'm happy' balls of last week.

He is not coming out of this whole episode very well.

Big Sam knew nothing about the quotes - which are on a video if anyone wants to check - and was not best pleased.

Just when i was beginning to have faith in him he goes off on one...i thought footballers were stupid but come on..how stupid can one guy be??