[Archived] Nicko's Thread Part 3

[tony gale's mic]

Did nico say that the two people in question had definitely not managed in the premier league or just that they had premier league experience?

Someone posted a link to a complete list of all past Premier League managers and asked nicko if they were on the list, he said no.

[rebelmswar]

Any chance of Youri Djorkaeff?

[j166429]

Someone posted a link to a complete list of all past Premier League managers and asked nicko if they were on the list, he said no.

ah ok... Thanks Tony Gale's

[LeChuck]

Blackburn Rovers is one of the world's plum managerial jobs.

No it isn't, Hughes would still be here if it were. I don't care where we come in the rich lists or whatever financial spin is put on it, the fact is we've probably peaked at 7th place and any manager coming in is going to be aware of that. Who will seriously believe they can compete with Everton/Villa/Portsmouth/City/Tottenham etc. over the next few years with the vast difference in transfer budget?

Top managers want big budgets, we are not a 'plum job' in world terms. What we are is an opportunity for young, ambitious managers to take a step up to a difficult challenge and prove themselves in the Premiership at a well run, stable club. Last time we were looking I think we were a far more attractive proposition; we needed re-shaping and the new manager would have the chance to cement a reputation of turning round a struggling club. This time it's very different, and the reality is that whoever turns up next will oversee us regularly finishing 10th downwards. The thing is, it won't be through any fault of their own, but it still won't look great on their CV.

[cn_barlow]

Mike Newell, Simon Grayson, Dennis Wise, Gus Poyet, Zola, Hendry, Shearer - just to name a few

Nicko's description of one of the two was 'rip snorter':

1- that word gets me excited

2 - i dont think it describes any of those!

[EwoodGlory]

They are a free agent and have never managed in the Premier League...which rules out Coppell.

Maybe Coppells contract says he is free to leave for a Premier League club

Les Reed anyone

[RovertheHill]

Our people are:

Free agents

and

Have played/coached but NOT managed in the Premier League.

So noone with a current job, and noone who has previously managed in the Premier League.

I know I've laboured this point but I can't think of anyone but Shearer for the first (British) candidate. If they've never managed it'd have to be a Rovers hero to even get the board to consider them.

I'm sure I'll be proved wrong though...

Nathan Blake Ashley Ward

SUPER STU RIPLEY, SUPER ATKO, SUPER ROBBIE SAVAGE

[LeChuck]

Nicko's description of one of the two was 'rip snorter':

1- that word gets me excited

2 - i dont think it describes any of those!

A Shearer appointment would be all over the headlines for a few days. You're right about the rest though.

[Bazzanotsogreat]

Err, I mean Bazzathegreat.

Cheers den, Bazza never realy was great even when he signed for us; bad choice of user names realy

[cn_barlow]

A Shearer appointment would be all over the headlines for a few days. You're right about the rest though.

Suppose but i dont think id would be a particluarly big coup.

What about Zico?

[Hughesy]

Shearer & King Kenny as his 'director of football' to help teach him the ropes.

[John]

'Dream tickets' or director of football type roles rarely seem to work....

[Blue n White Rover]

No it isn't, Hughes would still be here if it were. I don't care where we come in the rich lists or whatever financial spin is put on it, the fact is we've probably peaked at 7th place and any manager coming in is going to be aware of that. Who will seriously believe they can compete with Everton/Villa/Portsmouth/Spurs/Tottenham etc. over the next few years with the vast difference in transfer budget?

Top managers want big budgets, we are not a 'plum job' in world terms. What we are is an opportunity for young, ambitious managers to take a step up to a difficult challenge and prove themselves in the Premiership at a well run, stable club. Last time we were looking I think we were a far more attractive proposition; we needed re-shaping and the new manager would have the chance to cement a reputation of turning round a struggling club. This time it's very different, and the reality is that whoever turns up next will oversee us regularly finishing 10th downwards. The thing is, it won't be through any fault of their own, but it still won't look great on their CV.

Bet Arsenal wouldn't mind. Easy 12 points

[rebelmswar]

Shearer & King Kenny as his 'director of football' to help teach him the ropes.

Sounds good to me. Didnt Shearer get on well with Kenny?

[tony gale's mic]

No it isn't, Hughes would still be here if it were. I don't care where we come in the rich lists or whatever financial spin is put on it, the fact is we've probably peaked at 7th place and any manager coming in is going to be aware of that. Who will seriously believe they can compete with Everton/Villa/Portsmouth/Spurs/Tottenham etc. over the next few years with the vast difference in transfer budget?

Top managers want big budgets, we are not a 'plum job' in world terms. What we are is an opportunity for young, ambitious managers to take a step up to a difficult challenge and prove themselves in the Premiership at a well run, stable club. Last time we were looking I think we were a far more attractive proposition; we needed re-shaping and the new manager would have the chance to cement a reputation of turning round a struggling club. This time it's very different, and the reality is that whoever turns up next will oversee us regularly finishing 10th downwards. The thing is, it won't be through any fault of their own, but it still won't look great on their CV.

When you look at how much money is wasted at each and everyone one of these rich clubs on either poor players or good players which could have been bought for half the price, then you see part of the picture. Similarly when you see how many very good players (not just bought by Rovers) can be snapped up for under 5 million/good players out of favour at big clubs who will go for not that much, then you see that the challenge, albeit a hard one, is not an impossible one.

And should you succeed you will be talked of and regarded in the very highest terms. Sparky was a serious contender for the Chelsea job and was talked about as a future Man United manager. All this without winning a trophy or reaching a final or getting us into the Champions League.

I'd say there's definitely an attraction there.

[LeChuck]

Bet Arsenal wouldn't mind. Easy 12 points

Hah, indeed. I meant to put Man City as one of those, another occasion of my fingers going faster than my brain.

[tcj_jones]

Come on guys, it cannot be this difficult, at least not in the case of canndidate A.

British (I don't think this should be taken as a sign that he is not English).

Free Agent.

Premier league experience.

Been there and done it.

It's got to be Shearer.

Not sure on the foreign manager, but I'm thinking maybe Deschamps? He is a free agent, isn't he?

[Anti-Dingle-Brigade]

It's Gazza.

Wheel him out in his wheelchair (strapped in obviously) and let him shout abuse at just about everyone.

[den]

Shearer would fit in nicely with JW's positive spin on Rovers being great for a first time manager, like Hughes.

[John]

Yes, Hughes had no club management experience when he joined, but he still managed Wales for 6 years. A point he was always keen to stress when he took over us.

[Hughesy]

If someone looked at it logically then they would be well aware that we were lucky to finish 7th and we didnt actually have that good of a season. Out of the Uefa to Larissa, Out of The FA to Coventry 4-1, Out of League Cup to Arsenal kids.

Its a big job and im sure there are many managers out there who believe in their own ability and believe they can do a better job than Hughes. The key now is to select the right one.

[LeChuck]

I'd say there's definitely an attraction there.

I never said there wasn't an attraction, I just strongly disagree with us being 'one of the world's plum jobs'.

The transfer spending efficiency is only a benefit to us though, not potential managers. If they looked at Newcastle for example, they're not going to think "oh look at all the money they've wasted on crap, I'm not going there", they'll think more along the lines of "just think what I could have done with that money...". If spending a small budget wisely was a bigger attraction than being at a club that can spend loads and not achieve, then Hughes would still be here.

[Blue n White Rover]

It's Gazza.

Wheel him out in his wheelchair (strapped in obviously) and let him shout abuse at just about everyone.

Interesting interview by Sir Alex on Sky Sports on how he could've helped gazza with his behavioural problems. Bit off topic but to be honest it was a very interesting interview.

[grizfoot]

Bobby Robson?

Kenny Daglish?

Joe Royle?

[LeChuck]

Interesting interview by Sir Alex on Sky Sports on how he could've helped gazza with his behavioural problems. Bit off topic but to be honest it was a very interesting interview.

Like he did with Paul McGrath...