[Archived] Nicko's Thread Part 3

[Brownie]

If Advocaat is being offered 10m euros pa at 60 we can forget him coming. £8m pa and coming up to retirement.... his family will surely not let him be so foolish.

The LET is definitely pushing Shearer, and they're sources are basically saying that he wants the job. Sounds good to me

[Commondore]

what,at the time Ismail Urzaiz,Gabri and Albert Luque were fantastic players....they were sought after by many clubs....

like Nicko says,he is a thinking man,and because of his previous roles at Clubs like Ajax,Chelseas and Barca,he brings with him that Pulling power..the problem is will he be in the same situation Hughes was,and that is will he have(if he gets the job) enough money to get in quality players.

I don't think you got that one right.

Urzaiz: Reliable journeyman and goalscorer in La Liga who was way past 30 when bought, didn't make a mark at Ajax (only 3 games played!).

Gabri: A Barcelona fringe player who didn't get a new contract.

Luque: Newcastle flop who couldn't get a move anywhere else due to his massive wages.

However I'm defenitely buying that he has skill and "pulling power", I'm just pointing to the fact that he hasn't proved himself as a first team manager.

[LeftWinger]

McLarens odds are worrying me. Someone has put £100 on him on betfair - dropping his odds to about 3.6 to one. The best price on odds checker is 14s - I clicked that and it has been cut to 10s!!!

Please god no!

[Billy Castell]

Shearer is just wrong. McClaren may be a good assistant manager for Rovers, as he did well at Man U, and may have co-ordinated Boro's youth set up whilst there, but he should not come within a mile of the No. 1 job.

[RevidgeBlue]

The LET is definitely pushing Shearer, and they're sources are basically saying that he wants the job. Sounds good to me

I don't have the paper in front of me Brownie, but I had a quick glance at the article earlier and my recollection is it was a lot more vague than that.

Something like the LT understands sources close to Shearer indicate he'd be interested in talking to Rovers about the possibility of taking up the role etc.

If he couldn't be persuaded to forsake the MOTD sofa for the Newcastle job, I can't see the Rovers post having any more pull to be honest.

[waggy]

The LET is definitely pushing Shearer, and they're sources are basically saying that he wants the job. Sounds good to me

AND ME

[waggy]

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If he couldn't be persuaded to forsake the MOTD sofa for the Newcastle job, I can't see the Rovers post having any more pull to be honest.

Rev i think keegan was always no1 choice at newcastle,shearer was offered a bit part.here he will be no1

[thenodrog]

Only one thing is important to Alan Shearer. Alan Shearer.

[Nuclearsox]

Apologies if this has been posted before but my main concern with signing Shearer, and I'm sure this is a concern for most Rovers fans old enough to remember, is, will we get the right one this time? The first time we tried to sign Shearer we got the wrong one completely. Fortunately the error went largely unnoticed at the time and we were able to quickly rectify the situation a year or so later.

This time though, with the increased profile of the club, it would be very embarrassing for all concerned at Ewood if we announced the appointment of Shearer and then, in front of the world's press, unveiled a bemused, flame-haired scotsman.

It surely can't happen again but I've put a cheeky fiver on Big Dunc just in case.

[waggy]

Just read the last 6 or 7 pages of this thread for the first time today, and I see Nicko's "outed" Ten Cate as the Candidate B. As a result it seems his odds went down to almost even money on Betfair.

Well, his odds are now 18/1 on Betfair, so someone has been laying him a bit. Wonder who it could be?

my dad always said never trust a burnley fan

[waggy]

Only one thing is important to Alan Shearer. Alan Shearer.

not got over him leaving yet drog

[yoda]

not got over him leaving yet drog

Gord is right,

Shearer 1st barcodes 2nd

[AJW]

Shearer is just wrong. McClaren may be a good assistant manager for Rovers, as he did well at Man U, and may have co-ordinated Boro's youth set up whilst there, but he should not come within a mile of the No. 1 job.

i dont think mclaren is as bad as some people make out , don't get me wrong of the names mentioned on here he would be 5th o 6th choice , but dont forget ferguson handpicked him for the no2 job at man utd , svg had him as assistant with england and when he went solo he won the league cup and got to the final of the uefa cup , and he must take some credit for the amount of young local talent in the boro side i admit he was completeley out of his depth when boss of england , but maybe he could be no 2 TO shearer. we are goin to need a whole new coaching set up now anyway so those two with someone like tony parkes or derek faz alog with tim flowers as goalkeeping coach you have a whole new backroom staff with a mixture of youth and experience

[tony gale's mic]

i dont think mclaren is as bad as some people make out , don't get me wrong of the names mentioned on here he would be 5th o 6th choice , but dont forget ferguson handpicked him for the no2 job at man utd , svg had him as assistant with england and when he went solo he won the league cup and got to the final of the uefa cup , and he must take some credit for the amount of young local talent in the boro side i admit he was completeley out of his depth when boss of england , but maybe he could be no 2 TO shearer. we are goin to need a whole new coaching set up now anyway so those two with someone like tony parkes or derek faz alog with tim flowers as goalkeeping coach you have a whole new backroom staff with a mixture of youth and experience

McLaren number 2 to Shearer.

[SuperStella]

I rang coral to request odds on Laudrup......

66/1

[bob fleming]

There's not much to quote to be honest. "The Lancashire Telegraph understands the former England captain whose goals famously helped Rovers land the Premier League title in 1995 is interested in discussing the possibility of making a sensational return to the club where he made his name." Blah de blah etc. No direct quotes.

It also mentioned Henk Ten Pints "as the latest figure to be linked with the vacancy" after a story in Dutch newspaper (and I'm not making this up) De Telegraaf. No doubt the reporter was Alan Van Der Nicko.

I don't have the paper in front of me Brownie, but I had a quick glance at the article earlier and my recollection is it was a lot more vague than that.

There you go Rev - save you reading back to 9:19 on the same thread! That really is the crux of the entire Shearer article in the Telegraph.

I'd be more than happy with Shearer (insert £15m get out clause for when Newcastle tire of Keegan). Obviously we'll need some experienced coaches to come along with him. That could be interesting.

Yoda, Drog - Of course Kenny was all about Blackburn Rovers first Kenny Dalglish second. Mark Hughes the same, Blackburn Rovers then Mark Hughes. Souness, McKay? Course they weren't. Does any manager put their own interests before the club?

We're back to where we came in last time round with Hughes - if he wants the Utd job then he'll have to do a bloody good job for Rovers. Same with Shearer if he wants the Newcastle job in a few years. That's just the way it is until we find the next Jack Walker.

[tony gale's mic]

There you go Rev - save you reading back to 9:19 on the same thread! That really is the crux of the entire Shearer article in the Telegraph.

I'd be more than happy with Shearer (insert £15m get out clause for when Newcastle tire of Keegan). Obviously we'll need some experienced coaches to come along with him. That could be interesting.

Yoda, Drog - Of course Kenny was all about Blackburn Rovers first Kenny Dalglish second. Mark Hughes the same, Blackburn Rovers then Mark Hughes. Souness, McKay? Course they weren't. Does any manager put their own interests before the club?

We're back to where we came in last time round with Hughes - if he wants the Utd job then he'll have to do a bloody good job for Rovers. Same with Shearer if he wants the Newcastle job in a few years. That's just the way it is until we find the next Jack Walker.

The man has absolutely no experience though. You have no idea whether he'll be good or not, and chances are that thrusting a man straight from comfortable BBC punditry to the day to day of high pressure Premier League management when he's never done it before will end in failure. All managers need to cut their teeth somewhere, to gain some experience, with Hughes it was Wales. Shearer has none of this.

Great players don't necessarily make great managers. Look at the top 4 - Ferguson, Wenger, Benitez and (for comparisons sake even though he's gone) Mourinho. None of them excelled in their playing careers but have achieved at the highest level.

[waggy]

I'm going to save the next bulletin on the managerial front until the papers drop on Sunday,

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By then we should know who fancies it, who is in the frame and who will be interviewed.

I know some have been contacted, others will be...and there will be a short-list and a strategy by Monday evening.

Quite comfy with the whole thing.

nickos exclusive.SHEARER WANTS ROVERS JOB sorry for the goggley i bowled you over ten cate

[bob fleming]

The man has absolutely no experience though. You have no idea whether he'll be good or not, and chances are that thrusting a man straight from comfortable BBC punditry to the day to day of high pressure Premier League management when he's never done it before will end in failure. All managers need to cut their teeth somewhere, to gain some experience, with Hughes it was Wales. Shearer has none of this.

Great players don't necessarily make great managers. Look at the top 4 - Ferguson, Wenger, Benitez and (for comparisons sake even though he's gone) Mourinho. None of them excelled in their playing careers but have achieved at the highest level.

Very, very true TG. That's why a good set of coaches alongside him would be imperative. You've got to hope he's learnt from the managers he's worked under domestically and with England (also let's not forget that he has played at the very highest level domestically (and at Newcastle amd Southampton)).

I know there are no guarantees. there never are and I'm sure John Williams etc will be having or already have had similar conversations. I'd welcome Shearer as our next manager far more than some of the other names being banded about that's for sure.

[tcj_jones]

Maclaren's odds have crashed on Betfair...

[tony gale's mic]

Very, very true TG. That's why a good set of coaches alongside him would be imperative. You've got to hope he's learnt from the managers he's worked under domestically and with England (also let's not forget that he has played at the very highest level domestically (and at Newcastle amd Southampton)).

I know there are no guarantees. there never are and I'm sure John Williams etc will be having or already have had similar conversations. I'd welcome Shearer as our next manager far more than some of the other names being banded about that's for sure.

He'd just be a puppet for the coaches around him, you need a manager who takes charge, not who will take orders from more experienced heads around him.

The only great managers he's played under are Dalglish and Bobby Robson. Venables was a good England coach too I guess.

I really dont want Fat Sam as our manager but at least he's got a track record of success with a club like ours, so if worst came to worst and it was between him and Shearer I would definitely prefer him.

Still, ten Cate is a much, much better option than having either.

[waggy]

Maclaren's odds have crashed on Betfair...

THE QUEUE IS FORMING AT THE TOWN HALL MULTISTOREY AS YOU SPEAK

[Wing Wizard Windy Miller]

McLarens odds are worrying me. Someone has put £100 on him on betfair - dropping his odds to about 3.6 to one. The best price on odds checker is 14s - I clicked that and it has been cut to 10s!!!

Please god no!

Worry not! McClown was on 5 live this morning round about 10:15 ( I was on me way for a Maccy's breakie!) He basically said he would be interested, but he hasn't contacted the club and nobody from the club had contated him. To be honest he sounded really sheepish about it, he was pressured into saying he was interested, but you got the distinct impression he knew full well he wouldn't be getting it

[bob fleming]

He'd just be a puppet for the coaches around him, you need a manager who takes charge, not who will take orders from more experienced heads around him. .

You really have no way of knowing that though.

The only great managers he's played under are Dalglish and Bobby Robson. Venables was a good England coach too I guess.

Apart from those three there's also Chris Nicholl, Ian Branfoot, Kevin Keegan and Ruud Guillit. He'll have learnt different things from those guys as well.

[tony gale's mic]

You really have no way of knowing that though.

Apart from those three there's also Chris Nicholl, Ian Branfoot, Kevin Keegan and Ruud Guillit. He'll have learnt different things from those guys as well.

Every player has worked under multiple managers, why would Shearer be any better?

And if you're advocating having Shearer but surrounded by experienced coaches then thats neither here nor there. Shearer as manager has to be the one making the decisions. If he's not making the decisions then he will be a puppet of them. If he is, whats the point of having all these experienced senior men around?