[Archived] Nicko's Thread Part 3

[tony gale's mic]

If Shearer becomes manager the idiots will truly have spoken.

[Hughesy]

Whatever JW chooses - i will back. This guy is a diamond and he will get the right man for us.

Have faith in whoever JW decides on.

[Brownie]

Wonder if the Betfair odds tumble when Nicko's story gets around ?

Still pretty big at 8.6.

I would love Big Al to come back with the right team behind him.

Could be a 94/95 reunion with Newell Flowers etc

[RibbleValleyRover]

Its going to be an interesting week coming up. The general consensus in the media seems to be by the middle of next week we will have a new manager.

Still a few days to go yet if thats correct. A lot can change in a day.

[AJW]

shearer is a legend to most rovers fans , and with the right backroom staff i am convinced he can do a good job , the fact that newcastle could poach him IF he succeds doesn't bother me either man utd could have poached hughes as well at any time , and i dont remember this kind of hysteria when we appointed him, there are still some rovers fans hold a grudge because of the way he left us last time personally if i was a pro at newcastle and rovers wanted me i would walk to ewood park to play for them , its allpie in the sky until he reveals his intentions to the club , those who dont want him as boss i suspect are in the minority

[LeChuck]

I would love Big Al to come back with the right team behind him.

Could be a 94/95 reunion with Newell Flowers etc

Would we not just look like we're desperately clinging on to the past by appointing three men whose experience in managing/coaching range from failure to nothing?

[RibbleValleyRover]

Its a very hard decision for Williams and the board.

Do they follow the previous route of a young manager and one lacking in experience or do they go for a steady experienced manager.

I'm glad I'm not the one who has to make this crucial decision.

[Anti-Dingle-Brigade]

The likes of Shearer/Ince/McClaren/BFS won't get us higher than we are. They will keep us where we are, at best.

If we want to move upto the heights of Everton and Spurs, we need a manager such as HTC/Laudrup/Bilic with European experience.

The people wanting Shearer - at first it will be great, a big buzz about the town and nostalgia, but when it is a wet November Tuesday night and we are losing at home to Fulham and playing like Burnley, will you still think it's the best decision?

[LeChuck]

If we want to move upto the heights of Everton and Spurs

Don't you mean Everton and Villa? And they both have British managers in charge...

Why have you made the wild assumption that the foreign coaches are automatically better by being...well, foreign. It doesn't make sense.

[ihateburnley]

If we want to move upto the heights of Everton and Spurs, we need a manager such as HTC/Laudrup/Bilic with European experience.

Why? We're not in Europe

Not only that, David Moyes didn't even have Premiership experience when they took him on, and Spurs have had a line of foreign/inept managers and have been around us (at best) in the league anyway.

So you are in fact talking sheight.

[tony gale's mic]

Shearer has NO experience.

[AJW]

The people wanting Shearer - at first it will be great, a big buzz about the town and nostalgia, but when it is a wet November Tuesday night and we are losing at home to Fulham and playing like Burnley, will you still think it's the best decision?

did ever see shearer not want to win a game ? whether it be a wet tuesday night or a cold february afternoon or a balmy saturday in may

[Paul Mellelieu]

Shearer has NO experience.

Tony,

I don't understand your, and many others' outright opposition to Shearer. He might not be the best of the candidates, but let's not dismiss is totally.

He could bring many things to the club.

[AJW]

Shearer has NO experience

neither did dalglish when taking over liverpool or klinnsman taking over germany or van basten taking over holland or hughes with wales.....all managers have to start somewhere are we that eliteist that a manger can't start with blackburn?

[tony gale's mic]

Shearer has NO experience

neither did dalglish when taking over liverpool or klinnsman taking over germany or van basten taking over holland or hughes with wales.....all managers have to start somewhere are we that eliteist that a manger can't start with blackburn?

Dalglish inherited the old "boot room" setup at Liverpool. Him becoming manager was a continuation of the old regime, he knew the old system exactly and it was just a matter of not messing with a winning formula.

The others were national team managers, which is very different from the day to day life of a Premiership manager, with signings, weekly or twice weekly matches etc etc.

Name me one manager who has gone from a position like Shearer's into managing a top club (without being there immediately before because as I've said thats a different situation).

There is NO relation between being a great player and being a great manager. Most great managers weren't brilliant players. So many of you seem incapable of understanding this.

So since there's no relation, would you feel the same about Shearer as if I picked some random name from Blackburn's past?

[Paul Mellelieu]

Dalglish inherited the old "boot room" setup at Liverpool. Him becoming manager was a continuation of the old regime, he knew the old system exactly and it was just a matter of not messing with a winning formula.

The others were national team managers, which is very different from the day to day life of a Premiership manager, with signings, weekly or twice weekly matches etc etc.

Name me one manager who has gone from a position like Shearer's into managing a top club (without being there immediately before because as I've said thats a different situation).

There is NO relation between being a great player and being a great manager. Most great managers weren't brilliant players. So many of you seem incapable of understanding this.

So since there's no relation, would you feel the same about Shearer as if I picked some random name from Blackburn's past?

Gareth Southgate. (That was hard!)

And i think you need to calm down a bit.

[RevidgeBlue]

So since there's no relation, would you feel the same about Shearer as if I picked some random name from Blackburn's past?

That's a completely erroneous comparison.

Shearer was arguably our greatest ever player, is certainly one of the greatest ever Premiership players, and did pretty well for England. He should hold a certain amount of kudos within the game.

None of our players pre Jack Walker eg. Simon Garner can say that.

Shearer might be a great appointment, he might be a disaster, that's for John Williams and the board and Trustees to try and gauge if they interview him.

But your constant attempts to dismiss it out of hand are becoming very boring.

[Paul Mellelieu]

That's a completely erroneous comparison.

Shearer was arguably our greatest ever player, is certainly one of the greatest ever Premiership players, and did pretty well for England. He should hold a certain amount of kudos within the game.

None of our players pre Jack Walker eg. Simon Garner can say that.

Shearer might be a great appointment, he might be a disaster, that's for John Williams and the board and Trustees to try and gauge if they interview him.

But your constant attempts to dismiss it out of hand are becoming very boring.

Spot on Rev.

[LeChuck]

Gareth Southgate. (That was hard!)

I'll just throw in Gianluca Vialli, Ruud Gullit, Chris Coleman and, to a lesser extent, Roy Keane. They're just off the top of my head, there are probably a lot more. I'm sure people who follow the European leagues on here will be able to provide many examples.

[AJW]

Dalglish inherited the old "boot room" setup at Liverpool. Him becoming manager was a continuation of the old regime, he knew the old system exactly and it was just a matter of not messing with a winning formula

the right backroom staff as i have already mentioned shearer could not do the same ?

Name me one manager who has gone from a position like Shearer's into managing a top club (without being there immediately before because as I've said thats a different situation).

keegan did pretty well with newcastle fisrt time around , he built his success with what i would call the " a buzz factor " also roy keane got sunderland up and kept them up

There is NO relation between being a great player and being a great manager. Most great managers weren't brilliant players. So many of you seem incapable of understanding this.

quite true as bobby charlton , bryan robson and david platt would testify , but the squad we have without bentley and santa cruz if he goes would are still good enough to stay up no matter who's in charge , shearer would only add to what is decent enough sqaud with players that would be drawn by his magnetism

So since there's no relation, would you feel the same about Shearer as if I picked some random name from Blackburn's past?

there is no-one else from blackburns past exept dalglish that would :

a) capture the imagination of the blackburn fans

convince the best of the players we have , who ,just might be thinking of leaving to stay

c) attract the kind of players me , you and every other rovers fan want to see at the club

d) attract the outside investors to the club

e) raise the clubs profile, maybe we can even get on match of the day before 1130pm ha ha

[krislu]

Shearer might be a great appointment, he might be a disaster

which is the exact reason why we should stay well clear! Way to big a risk, and hopefully Williams ain't as sentimental as some of the sissies on here...

[Paul Mellelieu]

which is the exact reason why we should stay well clear! Way to big a risk, and hopefully Williams ain't as sentimental as some of the sissies on here...

Grow up!

As Rev says, it's up to Williams and the Board to make an assessment of Shearer and his team.

Let's not forget that hughes had no club management experience before his came to EP.

[krislu]

there is no-one else from blackburns past exept dalglish that would :

a) capture the imagination of the blackburn fans

d) attract the outside investors to the club

It would for sure "capture their imagination"; and I'll bet there might be a few more at our first few home games. I wonder if they will still show up come november and we are rock bottom in the Premier League?

Attract outside investors? Sure, because when making a £60m investment you don't need any fancy calculator or doing solid analysis; FFS Shearer is their manager, lets trow some money at them!

[krislu]

Let's not forget that hughes had no club management experience before his came to EP.

I once won the lottery, so then it makes sense to keep playing the lottery using all my life savings..

[RevidgeBlue]

which is the exact reason why we should stay well clear! Way to big a risk, and hopefully Williams ain't as sentimental as some of the sissies on here...

On balance looking in from the outside, he wouldn't be my first choice.

However I do think a lot of people are underestimating Shearer quite a lot.

People may be a little put off by the jovial couldn't give a monkeys attitude of Shearer on MOTD but when he was a player there wasn't a more single minded focused mean son ov a bitch out there.

As the nodrog has said, "Alan Shearer does what is best for Alan Shearer"

I think he'll come to the conclusion he'd be better off staying in the MOTD studios rather than coming here, but if I'm wrong and he comes here or anywhere else as manager in future I wouldn't rule out the possibility of him being a great success.