[Archived] Nicko's Thread Part 3

[Hi Mack]

What do you mean by that?

that puzzled me aswell!Hughes had a very good relationship with the board!

or have i missed something?

[RevidgeBlue]

I do feel there may be a bit of a power struggle at board level in terms of which way to go right now - cheap and cheerful or slightly bold.

I hope the latter faction wins.

Probably not too difficult to guess the way the divide is - The Trustees' appointee David Brown and the finance director Martin Goodman and possibly Rob Coar on one side, possibly everyone else on the other.

There's absolutely no point on skimping on the manager now after pocketing 5m compensation for Hughes.

Unless of course the long term plan is to appoint someone who wouldn't be too unhappy managing us if we got relegated.

[RevidgeBlue]

What do you mean by that?

Not being afforded reasonable funding despite proving himself with his existing purchases.

[herbergeehh]

Stick him to a contract then, let the maggots pay us a few millions.

I don't really think your worry should be the deciding factor when bringing in a new manager, we would have to end up with someone no one wants. I guess Graeme Souness would fit the bill.

Re: Fife

[nicko]

I don't know if Laudrup or Bilic are on the list...I've ducked an answer to that because I haven't heard.

One little scoop - and great signing - is that Arsenal have won the race for the Cardiff kid Aaron Ramsey.

Time may prove me wrong, but I think this lad could go all the way for the next decade or more.

[Hughesy]

Is Allardyce still way down the list? has mcclown made the shortlist? and whats the situation with Shearer?

[CircoWill]

I don't know if Laudrup or Bilic are on the list...I've ducked an answer to that because I haven't heard.

One little scoop - and great signing - is that Arsenal have won the race for the Cardiff kid Aaron Ramsey.

Time may prove me wrong, but I think this lad could go all the way for the next decade or more.

Agreed. Great talent. He's certainly going to the right club to continue his development at Arsenal. It'll help that his best mate Chris Gunter is just down the road at Tottenham too.

[den]

Get a good manager in, make a couple of shrewd signings, maintain our position and in the long term playing for a top half Premier League side will mean a lot more.

You can't survive in this league with a couple of shrewd signings though, can you? You need someone who can attract top players. I haven't taken notice of your choice, who is it?

[sandstorm]

That would totally shock me. Almost as much as Boothroyd and Martinez.

Nicko, speaking of Henning Berg. Do you know if he have applied for the job?

[herbergeehh]

Being under contract, how could he?

[Hi Mack]

Being under contract, how could he?

He could put his name forward just like me and you looking for a new job!

[sandstorm]

Being under contract, how could he?

I dont know the exact rules for football managers, but I cant see how they should be different from other workers. Clearly you should have the right to apply for another job even though you are contracted with another club.

[CircoWill]

I dont know the exact rules for football managers, but I cant see how they should be different from other workers. Clearly you should have the right applying for another job even though you are contracted with another club.

Not if you're contracted for a certain amount of time. For arguments sake, say Berg has three years left on his contract. He could apply for a job to begin after those three years. If he wishes to move before that time, Rovers would have to ask for permission to speak to him and agree a compensation package with his current employers, just as City did when wanting to talk to Hughes. We would have to make the approach.

That's not to say he hasn't made it be known he would be interested, should Rovers be wanting to talk to him, without officially applying - via his contacts or his agent.

[tony gale's mic]

You can't survive in this league with a couple of shrewd signings though, can you? You need someone who can attract top players. I haven't taken notice of your choice, who is it?

All the signings we've made have been shrewd signings, a man who scored no more than 5 goals in any league season in the German league could hardly be described as a 'top player'. Neither could a right winger who had previously been on loan at Norwich and cast aside by his club. A centre back rotting away in Hertha's reserves? They turned out to be top players, but they were still very much shrewd signings that you wouldnt need a famous player to attract, it was the lure of playing in Premier League team and competing in Europe which attracted them. Shrewd signings will always be our bread and butter until we get an influx of cash, its money that talks not having a novice manager who happened to score lots of goals during his career. Benni was the closest thing we got to having a top player but he saw us as a stepping stone to a bigger club anyway.

ten Cate, Laudrup, Advocaat, Bilic and even Gary Johnson would be a better bet than Shearer. They've actually achieved things, theyve proven theyre good managers. You make these arguments about people having experience and failing - noones suggesting them are they? People are suggesting people who have some experience and have done well. Hell...even fat sam would be a better bet and that's saying a lot as I would be gutted if he became manager.

[Tom 1]

I don't know if Laudrup or Bilic are on the list...I've ducked an answer to that because I haven't heard.

One little scoop - and great signing - is that Arsenal have won the race for the Cardiff kid Aaron Ramsey.

Time may prove me wrong, but I think this lad could go all the way for the next decade or more.

This forum I'm on, the United fans were pretty confident, I'll be glad if it comes out his chosen Arsenal instead. I really don't like United fans.

For all your woes about Hughes Blackburn, at least your actually doing SOMETHING, which is more than Villa are doing at this exact moment...aside from being pillaged by Liverpool.

I wouldn't fancy Shearer myself, but Ten Cate sounds like a good appointment to me. Dam one of your members on here, he's actually caused me to have an interest in your club

I hope whoever comes in keeps things going, as they were ticking along nicely under Hughes despite the money disadvantage to some of the rest of us.

[Fife Rover]

Stick him to a contract then, let the maggots pay us a few millions.

I don't really think your worry should be the deciding factor when bringing in a new manager, we would have to end up with someone no one wants. I guess Graeme Souness would fit the bill.

Re: Fife

Nah! I don't want that kind of worry at my age, Wouldn't have minded having a go about 20 years ago though.

[tcj_jones]

I know absolutely nothing about Martinez, but Boothroyd?! He had a shot at the Premier league and failed miserably, then failed to get his side promoted again the next season. Oh, and he has his team playing the worst football imaginable.

Why is being young and English so important to people? People should be judged on their merits.

[tcj_jones]

Cheap! What a ludicrous thought process that would be. Paying top players £ 20-30,000 per week and then going for a 'cheap' manager? He only has to make one mistake with a signing and it would pay for an 'expensive' manager. Conversely uncovering a Hughes type signing pays a top manager's contract in full. I think our board will have more gumption.

I totally agree with your sentiments.

[RevidgeBlue]

Boothroyd is a proven failure at Premiership level.

Martinez might actually turn out to be something special but it's doubtful he would have the background to earn the respect of Premiership footballers.

Ditto Johnson at Bristol City.

Extremely worrying that names like that are even being considered.

[Grabbi Graeme]

Maybe we should have an X Factor style vote, the board names 8 people up for the job that is whittled down to 4 via a phone vote then another phone vote for the final 4 to see who becomes manager, premium line rate makes money for the club and if it all goes wrong for the manager it's the fans fault ala Keegan being England manager.

[thenodrog]

Come on , its like getting the chance to have another fling with the best bird you've ver been with, you know you shouldn't and everyone is advising you to steer well away but deep down you know that the temptaion is irresistable !

Even when she's had a sex change and aint a 'bird' no more Brownie?

[RevidgeBlue]

Maybe we should have an X Factor style vote, the board names 8 people up for the job that is whittled down to 4 via a phone vote then another phone vote for the final 4 to see who becomes manager, premium line rate makes money for the club and if it all goes wrong for the manager it's the fans fault ala Keegan being England manager.

Sounds daft, but that worked to a degree last time, Hughes was the clear choice of the fans and that's who we ended up appointing. Although I'm not suggesting for one minute that was the reason.

Different scenario this time round, I don't feel there is anything like a clear consensus amongst the fans despite what the LT claim.

[tony gale's mic]

Boothroyd is a proven failure at Premiership level.

Martinez might actually turn out to be something special but it's doubtful he would have the background to earn the respect of Premiership footballers.

Ditto Johnson at Bristol City.

Extremely worrying that names like that are even being considered.

Did Moyes have the respect of Premiership footballers when he arrived at Everton? I dare say he did.

Would Shearer with no managerial experience command immediate respect?!

[RevidgeBlue]

Did Moyes have the respect of Premiership footballers when he arrived at Everton? I dare say he did.

Would Shearer with no managerial experience command immediate respect?!

1) I don't know, he had been very successful at Preston but I dare say he still had to win the Everton players round to some extent.

2) Immediate respect yes, bacause of his playing background. Of course he could lose that if it transpired he was making a horlicks of the managers job but the same would apply to anyone.

[tony gale's mic]

1) I don't know, he had been very successful at Preston but I dare say he still had to win the Everton players round to some extent.

2) Immediate respect yes, bacause of his playing background. Of course he could lose that if it transpired he was making a horlicks of the managers job but the same would apply to anyone.

Either way the immediate respect thing isnt particularly relevant. Five games in, its whoever is winning the games that gets the respect of the players, whoever acts like he knows what he's doing.