[Archived] Nicko's Thread Part 3

[USABlue]

Oh my God !!! Shearer turns us down !

Brilliant isn't it. Overjoyed with that. One down, two to go.

[USABlue]

Beat me to it. No money to spend me thinks.

Baaaalk Baaaalk Baaalk, or what ever a chicken noise is more like.

[spencey7]

Caption contest.

HtC: "Apparently my main competition is this corpse."

[USABlue]

If you don't have the bottle to lose out in an interview 'competition' you are no good ass a manager.

Shearer just marked his card...good and proper.

Funny, someone in the game who I respect tipped he would do that at the crunch.

Thanks nicko

[RevidgeBlue]

Caption contest.

HtC: "Apparently my main competition is this corpse."

Sam: "Don't know why that perma tanned Souness lookalike is getting so cocky about guiding Ajax into the round of 32 of the UEFA Cup."

"I managed that with the mighty Bolton Wanderers"

[TugaysMarlboro]

HTC: See how i'm pointing and talking personally, whereas that pillock needs prozone stats transferred to him over a little earpiece.

BFS: I've gone and bought a wool blend scarf again, and it's itching, again *cry* *######* *moan.

[USABlue]

So why go in or the job then? And discuss it for the past couple of days?

I think it is called ego stroking.

[RevidgeBlue]

Caption contest.

Ronaldhino: Hmmmmm.............................. where did you say you got this guy from again?

[USABlue]

It wasn't about budget...it was about him.

Well you could knock me down with a feather. No, Shearer self centered never.

[USABlue]

I don't know but it appears bizarrely that HTC's European record as a manager at Ajax was exactly the same as Sparky's at Blackburn.

Two Uefa Cup campaigns, one failure to reach the group stages, one exit at the round of 32 stage.

Given the size and European pedigree of the respective clubs I'd say Sparky's was by far the better achievement.

If we are arguing acheivements why is it we fancy Ince?

[RevidgeBlue]

If we are arguing acheivements why is it we fancy Ince?

I don't know if there's any mileage in the conspiracy theory that he's had to start at a lower level because of the colour of his skin (Tony Adams?) but nevertheless his record thus far is faultless.

Macclesfield looked doomed after a points deduction and he led them to survival.

Took over what he saw as a bigger job at MK Dons, and led them instantly to the Championship.

Hated him as a player - arrogant barsteward and all that - Manchester United connection.

Think he could be just the ticket as a manager. Might be bigheaded but can back it up with his playing record. The players at MK Dons and Macclesfield obviously responded to him.

[Grabbi Graeme]

Is my memory playing tricks on me or did Hughes initially manage Rovers and Wales simultaneously for an agreed period until they had concluded a qualifying campaign?

Would be a lot more problematic with Bilic probably due to the distances involved.

I'm sure that Hughes did manage Wales for a short while when he took the Blackburn job as Wales were in the middle of qualifiers for a tournament.

I don't want to see BFS as manager as his long ball game will see a lot of empty seats as Ewood, does anybody remember how empty the Reebok looked when he was manager there.

[daren]

Interesting point. How is Ince viewed within the game, I wonder? I mean, I recall Ferguson referring to him as a "big time charlie" and other such opinions of him being voiced. And, of course, his rather abrupt dismissal of the beloved Rovers doesn't help my opinion of him!

Personally, and for no really good reason, I'd prefer Martinez if we go that kind of "unproven but promising" route. He seemed to have his head on his shoulders when talking on the Sky Sports La Liga coverage, he's done an amazing job with Swansea playing some great football and seems to have good connections in Spain as well as playing at all sorts of levels in the UK. Seems likeable and seems to have the respect of all that know him. And there is a definite sense of je-ne-sais-quoi about him for me, I feel he'll be outstanding as a manager on (admittedly) very little evidence. This is the opposite of how I feel about Big Sam when I think of him as Blackburn manager.

As an aside, the blackburn board have shown that they will appoint a British manager where possible, I feel, so Ince or Big Sam have probably got a leg-up that way.

Edit: heh, from Swansea's home page

Mark Wright (Chester manager) "Roberto is one of those people who you would want to marry your daughter because he's so damn nice."

Alan Tate (player) "I think Roberto would do a good job as manager here.I know how thorough he is because he always used to keep notes of everything we did at training sessions."

Alan Curtis (legend) "He talks a lot of sense, he knows the game inside out and I remember him always keeping notes and profiles. I've got a good feeling about it."

[LA Rover]

I don't know but it appears bizarrely that HTC's European record as a manager at Ajax was exactly the same as Sparky's at Blackburn.

Two Uefa Cup campaigns, one failure to reach the group stages, one exit at the round of 32 stage.

Given the size and European pedigree of the respective clubs I'd say Sparky's was by far the better achievement.

This isn't 1974 anymore...hell it's not even 1995 anymore. At Ajax, you're hired to be fired. That club is run in an insane fashion, and the expectations are completely unrealistic with their diminished standing in the football world. It's a big club in name only anymore. Look at the circus last year when Cruyff was going to take charge as Director of Football, then quit within days because of his disagreement with van Basten over the youth set-up. They've scarcely done anything right there in 10 + years.

[AggyBlue]

Caption contest.

Blackburn is that way. Don't fret Ronny, I'll take you with me.

[American]

You remind me of one of my children who when spots the smallest of inconsistencies in my behaviour - eg leaving cheese on toast plates on the floor after a barnstorming night - proceeds then to try and demand massive changes in rules, cash and general house order. Jesus, just go Ner ner na ner ner and be done with it.

Like BFS? Fine. Not sure about HTC? Fine.

Fact is, whatever your point of view on here...don't sneer. Don't jeer. Be respectful and be Arte and Labore. Never forget you are a Rover. Now behave like one.

That is such an asinine post...

He's been intelligently trying to get his point across and people haven't been listening. He's been much more respectful than his responders. All Nicko does is spout about how his record as an assistant was. In that case, let's go for Kidd again, or for Quieroz - he won the league and champs league as an assistant, didn't finish second. Nicko makes a snide comment about Jose not getting to the finals (as well as incorrect info about Sam's record at Bolton) - well, Jose won a title at a club about the size of Ajax. How far did HTC get in the Champs league as a manager? Who built the Chelsea squad that got to the finals?

So, HTC was second with Ajax - that's like saying Souness was great because he finished second in the Scottish league!

And I actually think that either BFS or HTC would be a good choice - I'd favor Sam slightly, as he would probably stay a while and bring stability to the club, while Hank has a track record of not lasting long.

[kevinyip]

When you see the first game of Croatia in Euro 08 vs Austria, do you still think that Bilic is a suitable manager for us? He does not have any plan B. He don't know what to do so as to prevent Austria.

And why there is someone asking him as our next manager? I think it is total unrealistic thinking.

[USABlue]

I don't know if there's any mileage in the conspiracy theory that he's had to start at a lower level because of the colour of his skin (Tony Adams?) but nevertheless his record thus far is faultless.

Macclesfield looked doomed after a points deduction and he led them to survival.

Took over what he saw as a bigger job at MK Dons, and led them instantly to the Championship.

Hated him as a player - arrogant barsteward and all that - Manchester United connection.

Think he could be just the ticket as a manager. Might be bigheaded but can back it up with his playing record. The players at MK Dons and Macclesfield obviously responded to him.

Actually Rev, I like Ince, would be my choice too. I've been guarded about being vocal on it. I just think he has the style and the fire and desire to see it through. BUt why not Glenn Johnson of Bristol, more success bigger club, higher divisions.

I liked Ince as a player too.

Beggars belief to me everyone just assuming BFS =stability, no one seems to really want to take a look at what he did at Newcastle, which is the very same scenario as him coming here. Taking on a new club. HE screwed em up royal.

[rover_groo]

I'd be gutted if we got fat sam out of all the candidates. It's not just the fact he's ex notlob, the guy is surrounded by corruption allegations, he failed at Newcastle and the long ball style of football he employs is a disgrace. I really just don't like him, his personality to a degree and to be even giving him an alleged interview makes me feel sick of worry we might appoint him!

Agreed Presty.

I hate the sight of him, nothing but a corupt *******s and would nearly refrain from going to Ewood Park to watch his shower of s****. I've never had any time for him and just wished Souey gave him a right smack when they had an altercation when they met on the road after BFS labelled Souness' team as bullies.

Dont feel we have lost out on much - just feel we have missed out on the Buzz that shearer would of brought back into the club and the fans.

Henk Ten Cate please MR WILLIAMS

Hughesy, again I would agree with you on Shearer. Although I was disappointed with his decision I think that it could have easily turned pear-shaped had he taken the reigns. Even so, the thoughts of Shearer back at Ewood would have been sweet.

Andy Gray turned down Everton ten years ago - similar bottler. He has not been asked by anyone since...

Yeah, I remembered that Nicko and lost all respect for him when he done that.

However, I find it hard to place Shearer in that bracket even though he has done the exact same thing as Gray. I had and still have a lot of time for Shearer.

Take away Bolton from Allardyce's career and what has he done?

Managed Limerick.

Last thought for the night.

Phil Scolari has NO Premier League managerial experience - not too much at club level lately either. He can be a bit volatile too. No, you're right, give it to Big Sam...

No wonder you're calling it a night Nicko.

I'm the fool who works so hard and comes in at 0430 hours to get bogged into 20 pages of this tonight.

All in all I always fancied Coleman to take over, but it looks as though with his named not being mentioned he is probably not on the shortlist. At the moment then I would settle for Laudrup, Berg or Ten Cate.

[AggyBlue]

I'm the fool who works so hard and comes in at 0430 hours to get bogged into 20 pages of this tonight.

29 pages of petty bickering I trawled through this morning

Mind you, I'm only working two hours a night so I have the time

[Iceman]

So Chelsea has a manager,Mancini im assuming doesnt have a job yet.i wonder if this mite just be why there is a delay.JW,mite just have realised hang on perhaps i should approach him,and see what happens.

[PAFELL]

Last thought for the night.

Phil Scolari has NO Premier League managerial experience - not too much at club level lately either.

He can be a bit volatile too.

No, you're right, give it to Big Sam... IF that is your best thought for the night - I hope you change it in the morning!!!!!!!!!!!

[Bobby G]

I look forward to reading what put Shearer or us off from the other party.

I reckon it could be one of two things. Number one a clause to release him anytime Newcastle approach us, the other possibly to continue being involved with the BBC?!

Nothing else can possibly evoke such a response from Nicko as to say it was a close one and we were lucky to get away...

It was obvious from Shearers face when being quizzed by Lineker that he was feeling uncomfortable and wasnt being totally truthful about what happened. He left out the part where he spent a couple of days talking to JW...

[philipl]

I think Nico has already said that Shearer just wanted to be given the job and was not prepared to be involved in a selection process. And then the preconditions would have started....

[alexanders]

Ronaldinho: "I should really do something with my teeth"

HTC: "The dentist is that way"