[Archived] Nicko's Thread Part 3

[nicko]

Nicko. Do you know if Advocaat has applied for the job

Pretty certain that he hasn't...honestly, he is paid a fortune at Zenit and has the Champions League next season. He's 60-ish and probably enjoying the job.

Rovers is better-suited to someone who wants to achieve something and is more hungry.

[Mozzer]

You can only do what is put in front of you and what he has done so far has been exceptional.

I think reckon if you have shown you can manage lower down the Leagues you should certainly be able to do it in the Prem IF you have the players attention.

Ince has that advantage with his playing background. Has won more stuff than our lot have had hot dinners.

Starting to look very much like a winner as a manager as well.

hes done a good job in league two-how can this say he can do it in the premierleague???

allardyce's football isnt brilliant but surely a guy with experience who has done well in the premierleague would be better then a guy who has done well in league two?

[Blue n White Rover]

Jesus! You guys/girls are arguing as if we have BFS already and he is our next manager. He's only getting an interview FFS, doesn't mean he'll get the job. He was interviewed for the England job did he get it? NO!

From all the list there's only one stand out candidate for me and thats Henk Ten Cate.

[RevidgeBlue]

hes done a good job in league two-how can this say he can do it in the premierleague???

It's not like he has no experience of life at the top level, he has Premiership titles, European medals and England caps coming out of his backside.

Plus he has played under interalia Alex Ferguson.

So he must have a good idea of what is required to succeed at the top level.

Just hasn't had the chance there. Yet.

[Paul Mellelieu]

I have to say that I have no idea which of the candidates I want right now

BFS - Awful to watch, dodgy with money

McC - We'd look like dicks and he's awful on the box; Engalnd

Ince - Lack of experience and a pretty crap human being as far as i can tell

Cate - Will he fit in? Good point is that he's none of the above.

Only this time yesterday did things look a lot better.

[gazsimm]

They must have been Nonlot fans who don't go to Breezeblock, 'coz I know for a fact they would have carried him back themselves to have BFS back instead of Megson come the end of the season regardless that they stayed up!

Emotions are high at the moment, but can you really say that if BFS is manager next season you will stop going on Ewood? If yes, I feel for you! Several posters on here might end up eating humble pie for their comments on here. Time will tell...

yes sadly because i think BFS is not the guy Rovers should be appointing. He does not inspire me or excite me at all. I will still attend a couple of games, but i will not be renewing my season ticket thats for sure.

[spencey7]

Emotions are high at the moment, but can you really say that if BFS is manager next season you will stop going on Ewood? If yes, I feel for you!

If he gets the job and you still go, then it's you I feel for.

I don't think the gravity of exactly how grave this situation is can be getting through to fans.

To think that right about now Allardyce is spouting bull**** about ProZone, his own "brand of football" and the benefits of stupid earpieces to our board is enough to make me sick.

[thenodrog]

Might be an idea to take a breath here.

ALLARDYCE - Yep. His strengths apply to our situation.

TEN CATE - Yep. From wwhat I have heard ... not seen.

INCE - No way. Horrible individual.

MCCLAREN - not shrewd or intelligent enough. We woujld be a laughing stock even before a ball was kicked in anger.

MARTINEZ - Dunno anything about him.

IRVINE - Not yet.

BOOTHROYD - Nope, not high enough profile for our players to respect.

PEARCE - Not shrewd or intelligent enough. Might just make an OK No 2.

COPPELL - Yep shrewd and very intelligent. Has a presence.

LAUDRUP, BILIC - Bilic best of the two by miles, poorly paid and keen to take on a Prem job. Laudrup would rather be in Spain.

[b12_simon]

Personally, I don't think Ince is getting a fair shake on here. I along with a handfull of others, have been keen on him from the start, though I was temporarily seduced by the Shearer thing.

Here's a bloke who has been a winner all his career, played at the very top with THREE clubs who have been European champions, and been a dominant dressing room force in all of them. You can't tell me he wouldn't be able to handle Bentely, Benni, Roberts etc.

But then he wasn't too arrogant to drop down a level as his playing powers faded. He's played at Wolves, a club like us in many ways.

Then he took the huge risk in getting his managerial feet wet while others copped out on the cosy couches of the TV studios. Taking over Macclesfield, he had everything to lose and very little to gain; same with MK. If they failed, he wasd a flop; if they succeeded, then well it's only Div 2 blah blah.

So this guy has playing stature, personal balls and had succeeded so far as a manager, but he still has a lot to prove.

Sounds like a good mix for a club like us.

Ince has had a hard time because of things he's said about Rovers in the past (indeed I was fond of slagging him off as a player - 'guv'nor my arse' for a start! )

For manager he's about no.3 on my list and I'd have a massive smile on my face if he were to take charge.

[thenodrog]

I was at a charity golf competition at Withnell near Chorley on Monday and the guest was Kenny Dalglish, as the event was to raise money for the Marina Dalgliesh Breast Cancer Appeal. (his wife).

Thought that was Friday?

[novella]

lets just sum things up for the people panicking, sam is apparently having an interview this afternoon. now unless the board are thick, then they are going to interview at least another 2 or 3 candidates before making a decision which they said would come this weekend/early next week. nothing has changed apart from shearer ruling himself out.

[RibbleValleyRover]

Jesus! You guys/girls are arguing as if we have BFS already and he is our next manager. He's only getting an interview FFS, doesn't mean he'll get the job. He was interviewed for the England job did he get it? NO!

From all the list there's only one stand out candidate for me and thats Henk Ten Cate.

HTC who was reportedly not on the original shortlist but was used as a standby. I'm not so sure HTC is that favoured by the board even though his CV is impressive and i get the impression he really wants the job.

For me HTC is the standout candidate. I would also be happy with Laudrup and maybe Bilic but neither seem to be linked to the job.

If none of these are in the running i would look at Ince or Martinez. I think both will become very good managers, but i have serious judgements that the job has come too early for both of them.

[RevidgeBlue]

If he gets the job and you still go, then it's you I feel for.

I don't think the gravity of exactly how grave this situation is can be getting through to fans.

To think that right about now Allardyce is spouting bull**** about ProZone, his own "brand of football" and the benefits of stupid earpieces to our board is enough to make me sick.

Good grief.

The entries for "stupidest post of the year" just get stronger and stronger.........................

[iamarover]

Ince has had a hard time because of things he's said about Rovers in the past (indeed I was fond of slagging him off as a player - 'guv'nor my arse' for a start! )

For manager he's about no.3 on my list and I'd have a massive smile on my face if he were to take charge.

QUOTE(Exiled in Toronto @ Jun 12 2008, 13:19 )

Personally, I don't think Ince is getting a fair shake on here. I along with a handfull of others, have been keen on him from the start, though I was temporarily seduced by the Shearer thing.

Same here. But for me the closing horse is Martinez. Similar experience to Ince but he will have a much broader network abroad. Well certainly in Spain. Either of these really or HTC would do it.

[Lathund]

its actually gaz not gazz for a start.

Heh, loving the irony of you of all people pointing out spelling mistakes.

[thenodrog]

Sorry nicko, checked back and you were right about consistently saying the Chelsea gig was between Hughes and Scolari.

It was Citeh you never saw coming!

I dont think Hughes and Bowen etc did either.

[dannyboy1206]

Nicko What is your gut feeling over Big Sam do you think rovers will give him the job.Cause there are a lot of very nervous Rovers fans on this forum . and I am one of those fans

[LeChuck]

NEWCASTLE.

What's the difference?

Six months at a club already in a mess and made (needed) wholesale changes. He wasn't given anywhere near enough time to impose himself on the club, plus it was obvious Ashley didn't want him (he even admitted as much) as he was appointed just before he arrived. You can't judge solely someone on that, I don't know why you're so obsessed with it.

Of course he has something to prove after that because it wasn't very impressive, but his record at Bolton was immense and he'll make a good Premiership manager for whoever he coaches next. There are probably better alternatives available to us, but if we can't secure any of those (there aren't many) then he's a very able back-up to have on the list.

[TugaysMarlboro]

Nicko What is your gut feeling over Big Sam do you think rovers will give him the job.Cause there are a lot of very nervous Rovers fans on this forum . and I am one of those fans

I think thats a question even Nicko can't answer. Surely it's like any other interview process for you, me and any other working people out there. You go for an interview and you sell yourself the best you can. So it all depends on how well he sells himself.

You've got to remember there will be other people (probably) who will be interviewed who will be also trying to sell themselves as much as possible. That's a big reason everyone needs to calm down, it really is only an interview, how many times have people gone to interviews and been turned down?

[b12_simon]

But do you think the board actually will though Nicko?

It seems they were all set to offer the job to Shearer without talking to other people (had we accepted his demands) now suddenly that isn't happening. Won't the board be tempted to get someone in? (I dread to think of Allardyce as their second-choice, but for all we know he could be.) If Allardyce talks a good game in his interview, is there DEFINITELY NO RISK that he will be appointed before other interviews take place? If there's any danger of this happening, we really need to arrange some picketing.

How many candidates were interviewed before Hughes got the job last time round?

That's what it sounds like, reading between the lines of Shearer's (admittedly very gracious) turning it down last night. The reality was more like he was offered an interview.

[DudeAbides]

Six months at a club already in a mess and made (needed) wholesale changes. He wasn't given anywhere near enough time to impose himself on the club, plus it was obvious Ashley didn't want him (he even admitted as much) as he was appointed just before he arrived. You can't judge solely someone on that, I don't know why you're so obsessed with it.

Of course he has something to prove after that because it wasn't very impressive, but his record at Bolton was immense and he'll make a good Premiership manager for whoever he coaches next. There are probably better alternatives available to us, but if we can't secure any of those (there aren't many) then he's a very able back-up to have on the list.

Totally agree....

[b12_simon]

Nicko. Do you know if Advocaat has applied for the job

I'm pretty certain that if you read the thread you'd find Nicko has already said that Big Dick has applied.

[dannyboy1206]

I think thats a question even Nicko can't answer. Surely it's like any other interview process for you, me and any other working people out there. You go for an interview and you sell yourself the best you can. So it all depends on how well he sells himself.

You've got to remember there will be other people (probably) who will be interviewed who will be also trying to sell themselves as much as possible. That's a big reason everyone needs to calm down, it really is only an interview, how many times have people gone to interviews and been turned down?

I just hope they take their time cause this appointment is more important than the Mark Hughes one

[thenodrog]

Villa would miss Barry more than you would miss Bentley.

Don't agree.

[spencey7]

Six months at a club already in a mess and made (needed) wholesale changes. He wasn't given anywhere near enough time to impose himself on the club, plus it was obvious Ashley didn't want him (he even admitted as much) as he was appointed just before he arrived. You can't judge solely someone on that, I don't know why you're so obsessed with it.

He spent TWENTY-SIX MILLION POUNDS on players and failed spectacularly.

It took Keegan months to stop Newcastle attempting to play in his confused, entirely one-dimensional style. I remember that incredible moment in Keegan's first game when Nigel Pearson (BFFS's assistant who hadn't yet been sacked) ran to the touchline telling the full-backs to play the long, and forward quicker. Keegan nearly fell over in his hurry to get to the touchline demanding that they pay no attention to Pearson, and get the ball on the ground.

I reiterate - Allardyce had SIX YEARS to "implement his system" at Bolton. Given the weight of feeling against him already, he won't be given anywhere close to that at Blackburn.

I urge any supporter of Allardyce to read the following: http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/01/...ist_left_p.html