[Archived] Next Rovers Manager

[Hasta]

Regardless of Dick Advocaats salary, you also have to consider whether after a couple years he still wants to remain in Russia. At some point maybe he will want to return to Western Europe.

If he does want to return in the next say 18 months how high will his stock be. Will he be able to walk into the bigger european clubs or is Rovers about what his 'level' would be. If the answer is the latter then maybe he wont want to pass up this opportunity. We already know he was keen to manage Rovers once.

It's a longshot I know. Money is a great motivator for most people in football, especially on the way up. However at 61 Advocaat may see this as one of the last chances to manage in England as well as moving closer to home.

[tony gale's mic]

People wanting Shearer are idiots.

[Hughesy]

Regardless of Dick Advocaats salary, you also have to consider whether after a couple years he still wants to remain in Russia. At some point maybe he will want to return to Western Europe.

If he does want to return in the next say 18 months how high will his stock be. Will he be able to walk into the bigger european clubs or is Rovers about what his 'level' would be. If the answer is the latter then maybe he wont want to pass up this opportunity. We already know he was keen to manage Rovers once.

It's a longshot I know. Money is a great motivator for most people in football, especially on the way up. However at 61 Advocaat may see this as one of the last chances to manage in England as well as moving closer to home.

Agree 100% - he has done his work at Zenit now. Offer it him and he would be very interested im sure. He must know that sooner or later his better players are going to move on - i.e. Arshavin or wotever he's called, as will one or two others. If he has any sense he will realise that if he is going to get his premier league job then this is probably as good as an opportunity as he will get as most other top 6-8 clubs wouldnt go for his type.

[philipl]

Its not bullshit but you are obviously completely befuddled. Even before you popped up to play my fall guy (you are very good at it by the way), I had listed the few clubs in the world whose managerial pay is significantly ahead of Rovers and included Zenit in that list alongside Real, Barca, Man U, Chelsea, Inter etc.

This completely kills the argument stone dead- his next Zenit contract is 10m Euros pa.

Let's do the sums and even if we accept he pays his own tax of 13% as a foreigner employed by Russians required to be in Russia for more than 183 days, he will still net 8.7m Euros- that is £6.9m.

Gross up for tax and national insurance at a combined 53.8% and Rovers have to pay about £14m a year to match Advocaat's take home from Zenit's new contract.

[tcj_jones]

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[tcj_jones]

People wanting Shearer are idiots.

Why exactly?

[tony gale's mic]

Why exactly?

1. The man hasn't managed.

2. The man hasn't even coached.

3. The only work he has done has been punditry on MOTD when he's sounded less than insightful.

4. His first love is Newcastle, I'm sure he's got fond memories of Rovers but its hardly like he's Rovers through and through is it?

5. There are superior candidates available, one of whom we know is interested

6. Get this appointment wrong and we could be in serious trouble, I can't fathom why some of you would want to take such a big risk with such a high chance of failure.

It's a recipe for disaster.

[Korean John]

Its not bullshit but you are obviously completely befuddled. Even before you popped up to play my fall guy (you are very good at it by the way), I had listed the few clubs in the world whose managerial pay is significantly ahead of Rovers and included Zenit in that list alongside Real, Barca, Man U, Chelsea, Inter etc.

This completely kills the argument stone dead- his next Zenit contract is 10m Euros pa.

Let's do the sums and even if we accept he pays his own tax of 13% as a foreigner employed by Russians required to be in Russia for more than 183 days, he will still net 8.7m Euros- that is £6.9m.

Gross up for tax and national insurance at a combined 53.8% and Rovers have to pay about £14m a year to match Advocaat's take home from Zenit's new contract.

Advocaat is getting paid a huge amount and he certainly would be one of the highest paid coaches in the world. I talked to him before he took the Zenit job and he couldn't believe the amount of money he had been offered to go there. And that was before the pay rise. His reason for going to Russia was the same as Hiddink's -for an astronomical salary.

[John]

For those who like Advocaat, ask Rangers fans if they think he is a good manager.

You may find your opinion changes....

[Kai]

For those who like Advocaat, ask Rangers fans if they think he is a good manager.

You may find your opinion changes....

I don't know why, but I've never rated Advocaat either.. but then again my judgement of him is based purely on his time with Rangers, since that's all I know about him and just that he won the UEFA cup recently. He didn't half bring in some bad 'uns at Rangers though.. but he did unearth Barry Ferguson and a certain Gennaro Gattuso I believe.

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

Henk Ten Cate....the more I heare of this bloke the more I like,his connections in Europe could be very beneficial for us.

[Hasta]

Regardless of Dick Advocaats salary, you also have to consider whether after a couple years he still wants to remain in Russia. At some point maybe he will want to return to Western Europe.

If he does want to return in the next say 18 months how high will his stock be. Will he be able to walk into the bigger european clubs or is Rovers about what his 'level' would be. If the answer is the latter then maybe he wont want to pass up this opportunity. We already know he was keen to manage Rovers once.

It's a longshot I know. Money is a great motivator for most people in football, especially on the way up. However at 61 Advocaat may see this as one of the last chances to manage in England as well as moving closer to home.

Maybe I work for tribalfootball Phillip!

There was a interview with Advocaat somewhere before the UEFA cup final where he said he was interviewed for the Ewood job and was keen to manage in the Prem but they gave it to Sparky instead.

[Hasta]

Should be interesting on BBC for the Euro's tonight. Both Shearer and McClaren wlll be in the studio so we might get a reaction off them if they are interested.

[philipl]

Maybe I work for tribalfootball Phillip!

There was a interview with Advocaat somewhere before the UEFA cup final where he said he was interviewed for the Ewood job and was keen to manage in the Prem but they gave it to Sparky instead.

Sorry to have doubted you Hasta- I missed this one altogether.

I expected Rovers would have a strong line-up of interested candidates but it is beginning to look like it could be an embarassment of riches.

Will the head up the derierre BBC even bother to ask Shearer and McClaren tonight? I think they'd ratherspeculate about which club Bentley will be at in August than talk about the Rovers manager if the comments on here are an adequate guide.

[Hasta]

Here's a thought.

McClaren has turned down the job with the Dutch club apparently. Sheaerer is interested but he'd probably need a coach to come in with him. For all McClarens faults he was regarded as a top class coach at Man United and was there during their treble season.

Shearer & McClaren ???

[RevidgeBlue]

Saturday's LT is still pushing Shearer and claims that they "understand" he'd be interested in talking to Rovers about the vacancy. They also say that their poll still has him on a vote of 46% with around 2000 votes cast (Ince second on 22%) so it may be we have to accept the views on here are not representative of locally based supporters.

Elsewhere, contrary to what philip thinks, this morning's Sun claims that Advocaat has entered the race, as he is stalling on an offer from Zenit and wants a crack at the Premiership.

Joins Ince and Shearer on John Williams' hitlist according to the Sun.

[thenodrog]

Here's a thought.

McClaren has turned down the job with the Dutch club apparently. Sheaerer is interested but he'd probably need a coach to come in with him. For all McClarens faults he was regarded as a top class coach at Man United and was there during their treble season.

Shearer & McClaren ???

No way. Why pay two over inflated salaries for two over inflated ego's? We may as well have doubled Sparky's salary.

[tony gale's mic]

McLaren showed himself up badly when he was England manager. Sure he got Boro to the UEFA final but there was widespread dissatisfaction with him for his league performances and anyone can fluke a cup run these days.

And what seems to be so difficult to get into everyone's heads on here is that Shearer has done no coaching whatsoever, doesnt have the same affinity for Rovers as he does for Newcastle and the only reason why you're picking him is because he was a great striker. Which is absolutely bonkers, lets have Simon Garner as a candidate for the post while we're at it..

I still wouldnt mind Shearer as an assistant to a good coach, but then most coaches worth their salt will have their own backroom staff they'd want to bring in.

[Hasta]

No way. Why pay two over inflated salaries for two over inflated ego's? We may as well have doubled Sparky's salary.

I don't want either of them. It's just a possibility that could maybe happen.

They're both busy beavering away in the BBC studios. Shearer needs a coach. McClaren needs help getting a job.

[Mr Maureen]

Here's a thought.

McClaren has turned down the job with the Dutch club apparently. Sheaerer is interested but he'd probably need a coach to come in with him. For all McClarens faults he was regarded as a top class coach at Man United and was there during their treble season.

Shearer & McClaren ???

Yes,and I was mountain biking on the moon during Uniteds treble season,and back to the moon it will be if McClaren come's within a 10 mile radius of Ewood Park.

[RevidgeBlue]

And what seems to be so difficult to get into everyone's heads on here is that Shearer has done no coaching whatsoever, doesnt have the same affinity for Rovers as he does for Newcastle and the only reason why you're picking him is because he was a great striker. Which is absolutely bonkers, lets have Simon Garner as a candidate for the post while we're at it..

Garner was actually plugging Shearer for the role in his LT column yesterday

[Billy Castell]

McClown and Shearer. That will get us relegated. I'm all for having a chance of winning our division, but that is taking it too far.

[thenodrog]

Garner was actually plugging Shearer for the role in his LT column yesterday

He must have had a few too many tinnies. Anyway Garner isn't at all intuitive or knowledgable .... he's just a member of the strikers union

[Bazzanotsogreat]

Its not bullshit but you are obviously completely befuddled. Even before you popped up to play my fall guy (you are very good at it by the way), I had listed the few clubs in the world whose managerial pay is significantly ahead of Rovers and included Zenit in that list alongside Real, Barca, Man U, Chelsea, Inter etc.

This completely kills the argument stone dead- his next Zenit contract is 10m Euros pa.

Wow what a reliable looking source, two lines on a website that looks like it was put together in about 5 mins. . Every single source on the net indicate that Advocaat earns around £1.5-2m per sesaon , before deducations. PhilipL do you not understand that when a job is advertised or salaris are quoted , they are before taxable figures?

So to re-iterate you believe that Dick Advocaat is the highest paid person in football ? a simple yes or no will suffice

[waggy]

1. The man hasn't managed.

2. The man hasn't even coached.

3. The only work he has done has been punditry on MOTD when he's sounded less than insightful.

4. His first love is Newcastle, I'm sure he's got fond memories of Rovers but its hardly like he's Rovers through and through is it?

5. There are superior candidates available, one of whom we know is interested

6. Get this appointment wrong and we could be in serious trouble, I can't fathom why some of you would want to take such a big risk with such a high chance of failure.

It's a recipe for disaster.

1-EVERYONE HAS TO START SOMEWERE

2-NOT EVERY COACH MAKES A GOOD MANAGER,ASK BRIAN KIDD ANS RAY HARFORD

3-HE MIGHT BE ABLE TO TEACH ROBERTS AND MACARTHY WERE THE NET IS THOUGH

4-DAGLISH'S FIRST LOVE IS CELTIC

5-MY CV WAS SENT LAST MONDAY

6-I WOULD TAKE SHEARER OVER TEN BOB/FAT SAM/OR THE BROLLY MAN